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Post#41 » by TheProdigy » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:45 pm

rugbyrugger23 wrote:I posted this on TT board...little light for Jazz but if Favors doesn't make a strong (or any kind) of showing in playoffs, I think he carries less vs. expiring Ibaka to Raptors value:

To Bulls: Wiggins + Dunn + #8

To Jazz: Lopez + Bjelica

To Wolves: Butler + Favors + Jazz Filler (eat Diaw NG money or take on JJ contract or ?) + GSW 1st Owed Jazz

C: Towns | Dieng
F: Favors | Dieng
F: Butler | Bazz?
G: LaVine | Dunn
G: Rubio | Jones | Dunn

I'd hate to see Wiggins go but this is a great idea for a trade.
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Post#42 » by rugbyrugger23 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:32 pm

DaKidKG wrote:
rugbyrugger23 wrote:I posted this on TT board...little light for Jazz but if Favors doesn't make a strong (or any kind) of showing in playoffs, I think he carries less vs. expiring Ibaka to Raptors value:

To Bulls: Wiggins + Dunn + #8

To Jazz: Lopez + Bjelica

To Wolves: Butler + Favors + Jazz Filler (eat Diaw NG money or take on JJ contract or ?) + GSW 1st Owed Jazz

C: Towns | Dieng
F: Favors | Dieng
F: Butler | Bazz?
G: LaVine | Dunn
G: Rubio | Jones | Dunn

I'd hate to see Wiggins go but this is a great idea for a trade.

I think PG13 can be an option (vs. Butler), but wow would Wolves have all of their eggs in the 2018 offseason basket. Maxing PG13, and close to max or max offers to Favors and LaVine. The trade combination between the 3 teams is a little harder to figure out too.
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Post#43 » by Klomp » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:06 pm

Krapinsky wrote:We don't have the advantage of being a free agent destination like Boston, Miami, or Los Angeles. Our only path to a championship is to have 'home grown' players like other small market teams that have won championships or at least got somewhat close (OKC, Memphis). It's a long shot, sure, but that's the reality of being a small market team.

If we trade one of them, we still have two home-grown stars.

What's better, two stars and depth or three stars and no depth? I'd lean towards the first.
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Post#44 » by andyhop » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:32 pm

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Krapinsky wrote:We don't have the advantage of being a free agent destination like Boston, Miami, or Los Angeles. Our only path to a championship is to have 'home grown' players like other small market teams that have won championships or at least got somewhat close (OKC, Memphis). It's a long shot, sure, but that's the reality of being a small market team.

If we trade one of them, we still have two home-grown stars.

What's better, two stars and depth or three stars and no depth? I'd lean towards the first.


LIke everything it depends on the level of the depth and stars , the Heat were basically the first and the Warriors the second so both work with the right people
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#45 » by Krapinsky » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:55 am

Klomp wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:We don't have the advantage of being a free agent destination like Boston, Miami, or Los Angeles. Our only path to a championship is to have 'home grown' players like other small market teams that have won championships or at least got somewhat close (OKC, Memphis). It's a long shot, sure, but that's the reality of being a small market team.

If we trade one of them, we still have two home-grown stars.

What's better, two stars and depth or three stars and no depth? I'd lean towards the first.


How'd that work out for OKC?
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Post#46 » by minimus » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:44 am

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:I think trying to get a defensive big is more of a priority. If I trade wiggs, it'll be for an upgrade there. Butler's a great player, but I dont know how much better we'd be when our bigs can't defend the paint nor anchor the defense.


I don't think it makes sense to heavily invest in 2 bigs, plus if we were to trade Wiggins we probably would need perimeter scoring.
I wouldn't trade Wiggins though, if we thought we had to decide between Wiggins and Lavine the injury made that decision for us, at least temporarily.


Agree, but I'm sure other GMs will ask for Wiggins before LaVine.
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Post#47 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:16 pm

Jabari Parker for Lavine, that makes a lot of sense for both teams.
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Post#48 » by Mattya » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:19 pm

mercgold3 wrote:Jabari Parker for Lavine, that makes a lot of sense for both teams.


no it doesn't
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Post#49 » by TheProdigy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:20 pm

mercgold3 wrote:Jabari Parker for Lavine, that makes a lot of sense for both teams.

Did LaVine sleep with your girl or something? My goodness...
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Post#50 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:23 pm

Mattya wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Jabari Parker for Lavine, that makes a lot of sense for both teams.


no it doesn't


Jabari is a SF-PF type of player that a lot of people is asking for us to draft.
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Post#51 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:25 pm

DaKidKG wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Jabari Parker for Lavine, that makes a lot of sense for both teams.

Did LaVine sleep with your girl or something? My goodness...


Come on dude, i even said yersterday that in a trade for Jimmy Butler i would rather keep Lavine over Wiggins. If you dont understand the part of Wiggins and Lavine is never going to work out, that is your problem.
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Post#52 » by Mattya » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:26 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
Mattya wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Jabari Parker for Lavine, that makes a lot of sense for both teams.


no it doesn't


Jabari is a SF-PF type of player that a lot of people is asking for us to draft.


with a pair of bad knee injuries.
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Post#53 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:28 pm

Mattya wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
Mattya wrote:
no it doesn't


Jabari is a SF-PF type of player that a lot of people is asking for us to draft.


with a pair of bad knee injuries.


Sure, but that is a problem for both sides to deal.
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Post#54 » by TheProdigy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:30 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Jabari Parker for Lavine, that makes a lot of sense for both teams.

Did LaVine sleep with your girl or something? My goodness...


Come on dude, i even said yersterday that in a trade for Jimmy Butler i would rather keep Lavine over Wiggins. If you dont understand the part of Wiggins and Lavine is never going to work out, that is your problem.

Right. Because there is no chance that a pair of 21 year olds can ever improve on defense.
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Post#55 » by Mattya » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:30 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
Mattya wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
Jabari is a SF-PF type of player that a lot of people is asking for us to draft.


with a pair of bad knee injuries.


Sure, but that is a problem for both sides to deal.


When has LaVine ever hurt his knee before the Detroit game? They don't even get injured in the same way.
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Post#56 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:33 pm

DaKidKG wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:Did LaVine sleep with your girl or something? My goodness...


Come on dude, i even said yersterday that in a trade for Jimmy Butler i would rather keep Lavine over Wiggins. If you dont understand the part of Wiggins and Lavine is never going to work out, that is your problem.

Right. Because there is no chance that a pair of 21 year olds can improve on defense.

Give an example.
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Post#57 » by TheProdigy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:41 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
Come on dude, i even said yersterday that in a trade for Jimmy Butler i would rather keep Lavine over Wiggins. If you dont understand the part of Wiggins and Lavine is never going to work out, that is your problem.

Right. Because there is no chance that a pair of 21 year olds can improve on defense.

Give an example.

Everyone that has ever played in the NBA with the exception of guys that got injured or lost motivation.
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Post#58 » by Mattya » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:41 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
Come on dude, i even said yersterday that in a trade for Jimmy Butler i would rather keep Lavine over Wiggins. If you dont understand the part of Wiggins and Lavine is never going to work out, that is your problem.

Right. Because there is no chance that a pair of 21 year olds can improve on defense.

Give an example.


of players becoming better defenders as they get more experience?
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Post#59 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:43 pm

Mattya wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:Right. Because there is no chance that a pair of 21 year olds can improve on defense.

Give an example.


of players becoming better defenders as they get more experience?

No, of teams with such horrible defenders to get better with more experience while keeping everyone around.
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Post#60 » by TheProdigy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:47 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
Mattya wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Give an example.


of players becoming better defenders as they get more experience?

No, of teams with such horrible defenders to get better with more experience while keeping everyone around.

I can't even think of a team historically whose top 3 players were 21 years old or younger, so the question is invalid.

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