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What's going on with Dlo's shooting percentage in March? It's been awful. I know he is less effective when playing alongside another ball dominant guard. See Caris Levert and Stephen Curry. But Beasley isn't that ball dominant. He does most of his scoring off ball. I hope Dlo realize how bad he's been shooting and make adjustments. Get some easier looks near the basket and stop settling for so many 3s. Maybe that would help.
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IceManBK1 wrote:What's going on with Dlo's shooting percentage in March? It's been awful. I know he is less effective when playing alongside another ball dominant guard. See Caris Levert and Stephen Curry. But Beasley isn't that ball dominant. He does most of his scoring off ball. I hope Dlo realize how bad he's been shooting and make adjustments. Get some easier looks near the basket and stop settling for so many 3s. Maybe that would help.
I think a big part of it is how teams are blitzing him. Extra attention allows Beasley to shoot 60% (48% on 3s).
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Klomp wrote:IceManBK1 wrote:What's going on with Dlo's shooting percentage in March? It's been awful. I know he is less effective when playing alongside another ball dominant guard. See Caris Levert and Stephen Curry. But Beasley isn't that ball dominant. He does most of his scoring off ball. I hope Dlo realize how bad he's been shooting and make adjustments. Get some easier looks near the basket and stop settling for so many 3s. Maybe that would help.
I think a big part of it is how teams are blitzing him. Extra attention allows Beasley to shoot 60% (48% on 3s).
I also think Dlo uses early makes to setup more space for others as the game goes on. When he's a threat to pop off a 3 from anywhere he starts drawing doubles and frees someoene up. That's what looks to have been happening here early on. I just think something different has gone on lately regarding his makes/misses and a little bit loosy with ball protection. I'm actually spidy sensing something possibly on purpose and hope I'm wrong.
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Jedzz wrote:Klomp wrote:IceManBK1 wrote:What's going on with Dlo's shooting percentage in March? It's been awful. I know he is less effective when playing alongside another ball dominant guard. See Caris Levert and Stephen Curry. But Beasley isn't that ball dominant. He does most of his scoring off ball. I hope Dlo realize how bad he's been shooting and make adjustments. Get some easier looks near the basket and stop settling for so many 3s. Maybe that would help.
I think a big part of it is how teams are blitzing him. Extra attention allows Beasley to shoot 60% (48% on 3s).
I also think Dlo uses early makes to setup more space for others as the game goes on. When he's a threat to pop off a 3 from anywhere he starts drawing doubles and frees someoene up. That's what looks to have been happening here early on. I just think something different has gone on lately regarding his makes/misses and a little bit loosy with ball protection. I'm actually spidy sensing something possibly on purpose and hope I'm wrong.
I wanna think that he's secretly tanking his scoring to help the wolves tank and get a higher pick. but i think more likely is he is in a shooting slump. i think couple of those games we ended up winning the games. So i shouldn't be bragging about the shoot % that much. I just wanna see him have high scoring efficient games and we can still lose for the sake of the tank. His overall fg% is below 40% i think for this month. For his own good, he needs to be more efficient for this team to succeed in the long run.
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IceManBK1 wrote:Jedzz wrote:Klomp wrote:I think a big part of it is how teams are blitzing him. Extra attention allows Beasley to shoot 60% (48% on 3s).
I also think Dlo uses early makes to setup more space for others as the game goes on. When he's a threat to pop off a 3 from anywhere he starts drawing doubles and frees someoene up. That's what looks to have been happening here early on. I just think something different has gone on lately regarding his makes/misses and a little bit loosy with ball protection. I'm actually spidy sensing something possibly on purpose and hope I'm wrong.
I wanna think that he's secretly tanking his scoring to help the wolves tank and get a higher pick. but i think more likely is he is in a shooting slump. i think couple of those games we ended up winning the games. So i shouldn't be bragging about the shoot % that much. I just wanna see him have high scoring efficient games and we can still lose for the sake of the tank. His overall fg% is below 40% i think for this month. For his own good, he needs to be more efficient for this team to succeed in the long run.
same for me
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While he is definitely one of the least explosive player, he has big wingspan, and 39" vertical. That block on Jimmy has showed that DLo can be positive on defensive end. I hope that he will impact the game more by getting rebounds and deflections, he is certainly capable in these areas.
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While he is definitely one of the least explosive player, he has big wingspan, and 39" vertical. That block on Jimmy has showed that DLo can be positive on defensive end. I hope that he will impact the game more by getting rebounds and deflections, he is certainly capable in these areas.
Wow. I didn't realize that DLo had that wingspan and those hops. at 6'5" by the stupid old in shoes measurements and 6'3.25 inches barefoot he is a very tall PG. Seems like he could shoot over 90% or more of the players guarding him.
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KGdaBom wrote:minimus wrote:
While he is definitely one of the least explosive player, he has big wingspan, and 39" vertical. That block on Jimmy has showed that DLo can be positive on defensive end. I hope that he will impact the game more by getting rebounds and deflections, he is certainly capable in these areas.
Wow. I didn't realize that DLo had that wingspan and those hops. at 6'5" by the stupid old in shoes measurements and 6'3.25 inches barefoot he is a very tall PG. Seems like he could shoot over 90% or more of the players guarding him.
It is true, because his technique is mostly based on creating a bit of separation so he can shoot over defender. However, there are two not obvious benefits which are consequences fo DLo combination of height and wingspan:
* - first, is his ability to play off ball when opponent must guard him closely, because DLo can shoot over defender even if defender is executing closeout correctly
* - second, his ability to play at wings in some lineups, where his wingspan and height help him to be effective shooter
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minimus wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Wow. I didn't realize that DLo had that wingspan and those hops. at 6'5" by the stupid old in shoes measurements and 6'3.25 inches barefoot he is a very tall PG. Seems like he could shoot over 90% or more of the players guarding him.
It is true, because his technique is mostly based on creating a bit of separation so he can shoot over defender. However, there are two not obvious benefits which are consequences fo DLo combination of height and wingspan:
* - first, is his ability to play off ball when opponent must guard him closely, because DLo can shoot over defender even if defender is executing closeout correctly
* - second, his ability to play at wings in some lineups, where his wingspan and height help him to be effective shooter
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Klomp wrote:minimus wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Wow. I didn't realize that DLo had that wingspan and those hops. at 6'5" by the stupid old in shoes measurements and 6'3.25 inches barefoot he is a very tall PG. Seems like he could shoot over 90% or more of the players guarding him.
It is true, because his technique is mostly based on creating a bit of separation so he can shoot over defender. However, there are two not obvious benefits which are consequences fo DLo combination of height and wingspan:
* - first, is his ability to play off ball when opponent must guard him closely, because DLo can shoot over defender even if defender is executing closeout correctly
* - second, his ability to play at wings in some lineups, where his wingspan and height help him to be effective shooter
Which makes me believe that we could use another high level ballhandler. For obvious reasons our secondary ballhandler must be good defender and have elite slashing game to make this pairing work.
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So with height, and big wingspan, and leaping ability .. what’s your explanation for him being such a bad defender every year?
Earlier this month, Dunc’d On used him and Trae Young as examples of the worst defenders in the NBA.
Earlier this month, Dunc’d On used him and Trae Young as examples of the worst defenders in the NBA.
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I'd say coaching, buying in to the coaching, and most importantly the want to.
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karch34 wrote:I'd say coaching, buying in to the coaching, and most importantly the want to.
Yeah, it is. Plus it is definitely about giving effort. That MIA block on Butler was perfect example.
Interestingly, Russell’s clutch defensive performance in that game may not have been an anomaly. A deeper look at Russell’s clutch time numbers (games that are within 5 points with 5 minutes remaining) presents a surprising trend.
During his time in Golden State earlier this season, Russell had a defensive rating of 106.7 in clutch time, which was the best number on the team by a significant margin. Last year’s numbers with Brooklyn paint an even clearer picture as Russell finished the season with an impressive defensive rating of 102.2 in 36 clutch game situations.
Aside from his impressive clutch time numbers, there is also a strong case to be made that D’Angelo Russell is a better team defender than an individual defender. Russell often excels as a help defender by using active hands to get into passing lanes and force turnovers. Last year he led Brooklyn with 177 deflections and 87 loose balls recovered, showing a willingness to hustle and be aggressive on the defensive end.
Perhaps the most impressive statistic is D’Angelo Russell’s defensive win shares last year in Brooklyn. Russell finished the 2018-19 season with 7.8 defensive win shares, good for top-50 in the NBA and highest among his teammates in Brooklyn. In fact on a per game basis, Russell’s defensive win shares were noticeably better than any Minnesota Timberwolf on last year’s roster except Robert Covington, the team’s unquestioned top defender.
https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2020/03/04/minnesota-timberwolves-dangelo-russell-defense/
Unlike Trae Young, who has no physical tools and no willingness in defense, DLo can be a neutral defender.
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I think it's been desire, experience, or lackthereof in his early seasons that might be altogether different while trying to be co-leader with Kat now. We saw hints in the few games here already of both effort and ability, and high bbiq. If Beasley stays, his effort level on both ends and Okogie's is also contagious.
Then again does it even matter right now? Charge of ownership may...nah.
Then again does it even matter right now? Charge of ownership may...nah.
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Warriors forward Draymond Green is one of the best quotes in the NBA. He speaks his mind and tells you like it is.
So when he was asked about D'Angelo Russell's defense after practice Wednesday, Green didn't exactly sugarcoat things.
"Watching him in practice yesterday, I told him, 'Oh you showed me you can defend. I didn't know you could. So that's the expectation now,'" the 2017 Defensive Player of the Year told reporters. "It's interesting because you just never know what's been asked of someone. You can easily judge a situation and say, 'Oh man, he hasn't really defended much,' or, 'He's not that good on the defensive end.' But if he's never been asked to defend, it's kind of hard to make that judgment. Obviously, we're going to ask him to defend. Yesterday, he was asked to defend and he showed that he can. I told him that'll be the expectation moving forward. Sorry, buddy, you showed it."
The 23-year-old will be under the microscope this season, but Draymond made sure to keep things in perspective.
"We don't expect him to go out there and be Patrick Beverley or Kawhi Leonard," the three-time NBA champion added. "That's just not who you are (laughing). Just go out and be competitive on that side of the ball."
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/draymond-green-pokes-fun-dangelo-russells-defense-offers-insight
So when he was asked about D'Angelo Russell's defense after practice Wednesday, Green didn't exactly sugarcoat things.
"Watching him in practice yesterday, I told him, 'Oh you showed me you can defend. I didn't know you could. So that's the expectation now,'" the 2017 Defensive Player of the Year told reporters. "It's interesting because you just never know what's been asked of someone. You can easily judge a situation and say, 'Oh man, he hasn't really defended much,' or, 'He's not that good on the defensive end.' But if he's never been asked to defend, it's kind of hard to make that judgment. Obviously, we're going to ask him to defend. Yesterday, he was asked to defend and he showed that he can. I told him that'll be the expectation moving forward. Sorry, buddy, you showed it."
The 23-year-old will be under the microscope this season, but Draymond made sure to keep things in perspective.
"We don't expect him to go out there and be Patrick Beverley or Kawhi Leonard," the three-time NBA champion added. "That's just not who you are (laughing). Just go out and be competitive on that side of the ball."
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/draymond-green-pokes-fun-dangelo-russells-defense-offers-insight
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I didn't realize this was such an exclusive group. Great post Minimus.
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KGdaBom wrote:minimus wrote:
I didn't realize this was such an exclusive group. Great post Minimus.
You are welcome. The original poster forgets to include Dame. Which makes this group even more exclusive
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minimus wrote:KGdaBom wrote:minimus wrote:
I didn't realize this was such an exclusive group. Great post Minimus.
You are welcome. The original poster forgets to include Dame. Which makes this group even more exclusive
Checking his stats he didn't shoot a high enough % his first three years and not quite enough volume (7.8)in 18-19 or he would have made the list twice.
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