The PJ Dozier Thread

[Nick K]

Just gonna say it. If RD flops this year you guys are change your tune on TC real quick.

Why are you forgeting that NAW started at PG when Conley missed some games last season?

Precisely.

This just is further confirmation that Finch doesn't need a "true PG" in order to run his offense. That's never been how he's coached. That's also what Denver started to build Tim's last year (PGs behind Jamal were largely KCP and Bruce Brown) and why I think they've never brought in a "true PG" to back up Conley other than McLaughlin when he was here.

Good point. Our offense isn't really designed for a true PG.

[TimberKat]

Why are you forgeting that NAW started at PG when Conley missed some games last season?

Precisely.

This just is further confirmation that Finch doesn't need a "true PG" in order to run his offense. That's never been how he's coached. That's also what Denver started to build Tim's last year (PGs behind Jamal were largely KCP and Bruce Brown) and why I think they've never brought in a "true PG" to back up Conley other than McLaughlin when he was here.

Good point. Our offense isn't really designed for a true PG.

But we have so much problems with that and end up 18th scoring in regular season. At times no flow and just keep trying to push pace and leads to turnovers. I think this team need better PG/PF plays.

[Nick K]

I guess TC wants to give the kid a chance. His G league numbers are not bad, and someone said his abroad numbers are good. Overall, I think we took a deep PG rotation last year and made it paper thin. Time will tell if we get away with it, or if TC just doomed us.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628408/

I don't understand what the concern is with this guy. There isn't another good option out there really. Tim Connelly knows this guy. That counts for a lot.

Chances are he won't get many minutes as Connelly and Dilly might go injury free all year. That could easily happen.

This guy is a talented kid who deserves a shot. I'm rooting for him. Talk about a guy who has paid the price.

[BlacJacMac]

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[MN7725]

Precisely.

This just is further confirmation that Finch doesn't need a "true PG" in order to run his offense. That's never been how he's coached. That's also what Denver started to build Tim's last year (PGs behind Jamal were largely KCP and Bruce Brown) and why I think they've never brought in a "true PG" to back up Conley other than McLaughlin when he was here.

Good point. Our offense isn't really designed for a true PG.

But we have so much problems with that and end up 18th scoring in regular season. At times no flow and just keep trying to push pace and leads to turnovers. I think this team need better PG/PF plays.

that makes it look better than it was
Wolves were basically the 5th worse offense of the teams trying to win (Hou, Mia, Orl, Chi were worse)

top 10 with Russell/Beverly pretty much covering all the PG minutes, neither who are really a "PG" in traditional sense like Conley

then it was sort of a Nowell/River/JMAC thing behind Russell before Conley was traded for

last year it was a JMAC/KA/NAW thing

[MN7725]

I guess TC wants to give the kid a chance. His G league numbers are not bad, and someone said his abroad numbers are good. Overall, I think we took a deep PG rotation last year and made it paper thin. Time will tell if we get away with it, or if TC just doomed us.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628408/

I don't understand what the concern is with this guy. There isn't another good option out there really. Tim Connelly knows this guy. That counts for a lot.

Chances are he won't get many minutes as Connelly and Dilly might go injury free all year. That could easily happen.

This guy is a talented kid who deserves a shot. I'm rooting for him. Talk about a guy who has paid the price.

I don't have a problem with it, TC believes in him, thats his job to find talent

its just very strange when there are still proven NBA players still available and likely going to get same minimum contract

why not just wait to see how it plays out with the remaining FAs

maybe I'm wrong in assuming that Dozier is only going to be in the NBA because Wolves signed him, and this deal would be there in mid August if it came to that point

[KATKlownFeet]

Just gonna say it. If RD flops this year you guys are change your tune on TC real quick.

Why are you forgeting that NAW started at PG when Conley missed some games last season?

NAW isn't a good point guard. He was bad. When he was at point guard, his defensive play was not very good and the offense didn't move all that well. If we have to rely on NAW at point guard, don't expect to get back to the WCF.

[KATKlownFeet]

I guess TC wants to give the kid a chance. His G league numbers are not bad, and someone said his abroad numbers are good. Overall, I think we took a deep PG rotation last year and made it paper thin. Time will tell if we get away with it, or if TC just doomed us.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628408/

I don't understand what the concern is with this guy. There isn't another good option out there really. Tim Connelly knows this guy. That counts for a lot.

Chances are he won't get many minutes as Connelly and Dilly might go injury free all year. That could easily happen.

This guy is a talented kid who deserves a shot. I'm rooting for him. Talk about a guy who has paid the price.

I don't have a problem with it, TC believes in him, thats his job to find talent

its just very strange when there are still proven NBA players still available and likely going to get same minimum contract

why not just wait to see how it plays out with the remaining FAs

maybe I'm wrong in assuming that Dozier is only going to be in the NBA because Wolves signed him, and this deal would be there in mid August if it came to that point

Yeah, it was real odd to rush for a guy that likely no team would consider signing beyond a training camp body. Fultz, Dennis Smith, JMac, Lowry and others were still available. I don't give a crap if TC knows him. He knew Monte even better and Finchy froze him out of rotation. He's probably nothing more than an end of the bench cheerleader and we paid to get rid of one in Wendell Moore.

[winforlose]

If things work out then I am worrying over nothing. If they don’t we have very few methods of course correcting and are likely to waste the season. The question is what is more likely, and I think it is more likely that we are ******. But again, I don’t want this to be true. I want us to win a ring and brings some badly needed glory to a state that hasn’t had anything to celebrate since 1991. No fan base has been so unrewarded across all four men’s sports as ours. It’s our time, and now we just added a lot more adversity to an all ready must win year.

[KGdaBom]

Just gonna say it. If RD flops this year you guys are change your tune on TC real quick.

I get he didn't make the moves you wanted (the 2 moves you guaranteed he'd make), but man, you are just spiraling...

Lol. Not gonna pretend I am not pissed. Not gonna pretend I expected any of TC’s moves this offseason. Spiraling is a bit much.

You seem to be spiraling to me.

[winforlose]

I get he didn't make the moves you wanted (the 2 moves you guaranteed he'd make), but man, you are just spiraling...

Lol. Not gonna pretend I am not pissed. Not gonna pretend I expected any of TC’s moves this offseason. Spiraling is a bit much.

You seem to be spiraling to me.

Not the only one who thinks we need more PG depth. Not the only one who doesn’t get the Dozier signing. Not the only one not confident that under sized 19 year old college bench player can come in from the cold and play backup PG for 20+ minutes a night for a top 3 team in the west. Not the only one who thinks having NAW as the 3rd string PG instead of actual PG is a bad ******* idea. Are all of us spiraling?

[Klomp]

Precisely.

This just is further confirmation that Finch doesn't need a "true PG" in order to run his offense. That's never been how he's coached. That's also what Denver started to build Tim's last year (PGs behind Jamal were largely KCP and Bruce Brown) and why I think they've never brought in a "true PG" to back up Conley other than McLaughlin when he was here.

Good point. Our offense isn't really designed for a true PG.

But we have so much problems with that and end up 18th scoring in regular season. At times no flow and just keep trying to push pace and leads to turnovers. I think this team need better PG/PF plays.

That has more to do with the fact we had so few willing shot creators imo. Late in the clock, the only real options were Ant, KAT or Mike/Rudy pick and roll.

And by getting out and running more with guys like Dillingham, it should lead to fewer late-clock situations.

[winforlose]

Sounds like his contract is not fully guaranteed.

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Which suggests for a price we can course correct after summer league if necessary.

[KGdaBom]

Lol. Not gonna pretend I am not pissed. Not gonna pretend I expected any of TC’s moves this offseason. Spiraling is a bit much.

You seem to be spiraling to me.

Not the only one who thinks we need more PG depth. Not the only one who doesn’t get the Dozier signing. Not the only one not confident that under sized 19 year old college bench player can come in from the cold and play backup PG for 20+ minutes a night for a top 3 team in the west. Not the only one who thinks having NAW as the 3rd string PG instead of actual PG is a bad ******* idea. Are all of us spiraling?

To me spiraling is when you imagine some doom and gloom scenario and think we have to prepare for said Doom and gloom scenario. Last year it was Conley suffering a season ending injury so we had to move Kyle for a PG. Connelly brought in Monte and it seemed like a good move at first and on paper. Once again you have these huge fears of Conley missing time. He will probably miss some. We drafted potentially the best rookie PG. He is our backup plan and with any luck at all he's a good backup plan. Chill and enjoy the season is my best advice. $hit may or may not happen.

[KGdaBom]

If things work out then I am worrying over nothing. If they don’t we have very few methods of course correcting and are likely to waste the season. The question is what is more likely, and I think it is more likely that we are ******. But again, I don’t want this to be true. I want us to win a ring and brings some badly needed glory to a state that hasn’t had anything to celebrate since 1991. No fan base has been so unrewarded across all four men’s sports as ours. It’s our time, and now we just added a lot more adversity to an all ready must win year.

This was a well written and introspective post with one exception IMO. I don't believe it is more likely that we are ......

[shrink]

One thing I’ve noticed about Conley is he is firmly committed to “his” guys.

This is actually the third time he’s picked up Dozier, a player who has never really demonstrated much in the NBA. He was quick to give Michael Porter Jr a max deal, despite numerous injury concerns about his back. And he has stressed the value of continuity both in DEN and in MIN.

I can’t be unhappy with the first MIN GM that seems to do the trades I suggest on the board (Conley, Morris, WMJ). However, I will say that while his free agent picks are reasonable, I had hoped for better. We can’t make a FA sign with us, but I had a little hope Anderson or Morris on the vet min had a chance of staying. I had hoped our recent success might attract a ring-chasing older vet. And I hope we would get a legitimate back up PG. I don’t mind Ingles, Luka for clubhouse continuity, and I’ll have to put my faith that Connelly understands Dozier better than I do. Reasonable. But I was hoping for better.

[Slim Tubby]

Lol. Not gonna pretend I am not pissed. Not gonna pretend I expected any of TC’s moves this offseason. Spiraling is a bit much.

You seem to be spiraling to me.

Not the only one who thinks we need more PG depth. Not the only one who doesn’t get the Dozier signing. Not the only one not confident that under sized 19 year old college bench player can come in from the cold and play backup PG for 20+ minutes a night for a top 3 team in the west. Not the only one who thinks having NAW as the 3rd string PG instead of actual PG is a bad ******* idea. Are all of us spiraling?

How many teams in the NBA are going to thrive if their 3rd PG is forced to play significant minutes during the season? None. Spiraling? Maybe not quite but you sure seem to be circling the drain.

Connelly identified our biggest need for a long-term PG knowing we had the smallest of windows for this opportunity and then went out and grabbed the best PG prospect in this Draft. He then added the guy I begged for in TSJ who I expect to contribute immediately.

Connelly is easily a Top 5 GM in the NBA.

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[minimus]

Is minimus Tim Connelly? Almost all the players minimus wanted are the ones TC are getting. From NAW, to Ingles to PJ Dozier

It really feels like my birthday

[Note30]

You seem to be spiraling to me.

Not the only one who thinks we need more PG depth. Not the only one who doesn’t get the Dozier signing. Not the only one not confident that under sized 19 year old college bench player can come in from the cold and play backup PG for 20+ minutes a night for a top 3 team in the west. Not the only one who thinks having NAW as the 3rd string PG instead of actual PG is a bad ******* idea. Are all of us spiraling?

How many teams in the NBA are going to thrive if their 3rd PG is forced to play significant minutes during the season? None. Spiraling? Maybe not quite but you sure seem to be circling the drain.

Connelly identified our biggest need for a long-term PG knowing we had the smallest of windows for this opportunity and then went out and grabbed the best PG prospect in this Draft. He then added the guy I begged for in TSJ who I expect to contribute immediately.

Connelly is easily a Top 5 GM in the NBA.

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[Battletrigger]

Just gonna say it. If RD flops this year you guys are change your tune on TC real quick.

I get he didn't make the moves you wanted (the 2 moves you guaranteed he'd make), but man, you are just spiraling...

This is the third straight post that I open today, and all of them seems the same, winforlose whimpering about the lack of another PG player. And if only we're today...