2025 Free Agency

[Danimals]

What is the max extension Naz could get if he picks up his option?

[shrink]

What is the max extension Naz could get if he picks up his option?

Correct, if Naz opts out of his contract, MIN can use Bird rights to sign him to a new deal for whatever they can agree to.

If Naz picks up his option, his salary next year would be $15. The first year of an extension can be up to 40%, or $21 mil.

A key part is that for either new deal, raises (OR decreases!) can be 8% per year.

Both an extension or an opt in would allow for Naz to be on a contract that could be up to five years long (5 or 1+4).

[Loaf_of_bread]

0% chance Naz takes the PO

[winforlose]

0% chance Naz takes the PO

The real question is what does it cost to keep Naz? His defense and foul trouble in the playoffs will depress his value. That said, he is still pre prime, floor spacing, multi-positional, and good across lineups (meaning he plays well with everyone in a 2 or 3 or 4 man lineup.) I think he probably costs 25, and assume Randle costs 35 (You have to account for playoff Randle, but don’t go overboard with a single good year or good playoff run.) If those 2 cost 60 that puts us well into the 2nd apron without NAW. I would need to do the math, but suffice it to say we would probably have the highest payroll in the NBA. We already have the highest of any playoff team.

Edit to update: I took the number Spotrac gave for active roster, subtracted Naz and Randle, added back 60 million and got $207,847,094. This is a rough number, but with draft picks signed we go over the 2nd apron and lose the tax payer MLE. This assumes we run it back with basically everyone but NAW while adding the picks. It is worth noting we will need to drop someone to make room as we currently have 15 men on the roster. This does not allow us to add a backup C, or backup PG unless we draft them (which we may very well do.)

[Loaf_of_bread]

0% chance Naz takes the PO

The real question is what does it cost to keep Naz? His defense and foul trouble in the playoffs will depress his value. That said, he is still pre prime, floor spacing, multi-positional, and good across lineups (meaning he plays well with everyone in a 2 or 3 or 4 man lineup.) I think he probably costs 25, and assume Randle costs 35 (You have to account for playoff Randle, but don’t go overboard with a single good year or good playoff run.) If those 2 cost 60 that puts us well into the 2nd apron without NAW. I would need to do the math, but suffice it to say we would probably have the highest payroll in the NBA. We already have the highest of any playoff team.

Edit to update: I took the number Spotrac gave for active roster, subtracted Naz and Randle, added back 60 million and got $207,847,094. This is a rough number, but with draft picks signed we go over the 2nd apron and lose the tax payer MLE. This assumes we run it back with basically everyone but NAW while adding the picks. It is worth noting we will need to drop someone to make room as we currently have 15 men on the roster. This does not allow us to add a backup C, or backup PG unless we draft them (which we may very well do.)

I think 25 is a given as a big with his skillset. 25 first year, not even aav.... Teams will make moves to get him.

Maybe he doesn't show up next series..? But, his playoff efficiency numbers are very good...particularly in comparison to league averages with efficiency numbers lower in PO.. some posters are not looking at the 'whole' of Naz's PO performances, and making brash takes on some recent sub-par games. He has proven clutch even moreso than ddv (not sure why ppl think ddv is all that great of a PO guy).

Would really hate to lose naz..

Difficult road ahead for Connelly.

[Norseman79]

What PGs are likely to be available?

[FrenchMinnyFan]

NAZ is a poor defender and not always consistent at offense. Connelly have to set up priority. On my opinion it will all depend on the end of the season. Getting a PG is for me one of those. Mike is old, we can't reply on him as a starter. He has to play limited mins, mentored to young guys and be ready for PO run.

[Loaf_of_bread]

If Conley doesn't retire, I don’t see any available pg worth signing unless the front office feels Rob isn't worth playing AT ALL next year. Develop rob.

If Conley retires, pg is a priority for sure

Damn, we invested the 8th pick for the reason of shoring the position. Pretty high investment

[Slim Tubby]

What PGs are likely to be available?

Garland, D. Murray and Holiday are guys that come to mind that might be available.

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[cmoss84]

I've wanted to trade for Jose Alvarado for a while...

[TimberKat]

I've wanted to trade for Jose Alvarado for a while...

The DET #1 and salary for Jose?

[cmoss84]

I've wanted to trade for Jose Alvarado for a while...

The DET #1 and salary for Jose?

I would. Minott can be part of that package as well.

[minimus]

I've wanted to trade for Jose Alvarado for a while...

The DET #1 and salary for Jose?

Nah. Alvarado does not solve any of our problems

[cmoss84]

I've wanted to trade for Jose Alvarado for a while...

The DET #1 and salary for Jose?

Nah. Alvarado does not solve any of our problems

A savvy vet (but still 27) PG who makes 4.5 each of the next 2 years? I'd put my money on this making more of a positive impact than what a rookie does at #17...go get another big at #31.

[BlacJacMac]

The DET #1 and salary for Jose?

Nah. Alvarado does not solve any of our problems

A savvy vet (but still 27) PG who makes 4.5 each of the next 2 years? I'd put my money on this making more of a positive impact than what a rookie does at #17...go get another big at #31.

Is he a legit starting PG? He seems like a guy who can do a little of everything, but nothing particularly well.

Seems like #17 would be an overpay.

[cmoss84]

Nah. Alvarado does not solve any of our problems

A savvy vet (but still 27) PG who makes 4.5 each of the next 2 years? I'd put my money on this making more of a positive impact than what a rookie does at #17...go get another big at #31.

Is he a legit starting PG? He seems like a guy who can do a little of everything, but nothing particularly well.

Seems like #17 would be an overpay.

I guess I probably don't value draft picks as much as others, especially when we are this close to a finished product and contending every year.
I'd love to have Mike-Jose-Rd split the load...they can all bring something different to the table.

[BlacJacMac]

A savvy vet (but still 27) PG who makes 4.5 each of the next 2 years? I'd put my money on this making more of a positive impact than what a rookie does at #17...go get another big at #31.

Is he a legit starting PG? He seems like a guy who can do a little of everything, but nothing particularly well.

Seems like #17 would be an overpay.

I guess I probably don't value draft picks as much as others, especially when we are this close to a finished product and contending every year.
I'd love to have Mike-Jose-Rd split the load...they can all bring something different to the table.

I'm fine with moving the draft pick if it gets us more of a starting caliber C or PG. I just don't see the appeal of Alverado.

He's tiny - barely 6' with a 6'1 wingspan. Appears to be a poor overall shooter, but has shown some potential from 3. Does not get to the line. He can run a team a little bit. Scrappy defender for his size. Tries hard.

Seems like a spark plug off the bench guy that can be used for small bursts because he tends to wear/break down with more play.

Just seems like a bad use of the last decent pick we're likely to have for a while.

[KGdaBom]

Is he a legit starting PG? He seems like a guy who can do a little of everything, but nothing particularly well.

Seems like #17 would be an overpay.

I guess I probably don't value draft picks as much as others, especially when we are this close to a finished product and contending every year.
I'd love to have Mike-Jose-Rd split the load...they can all bring something different to the table.

I'm fine with moving the draft pick if it gets us more of a starting caliber C or PG. I just don't see the appeal of Alverado.

He's tiny - barely 6' with a 6'1 wingspan. Appears to be a poor overall shooter, but has shown some potential from 3. Does not get to the line. He can run a team a little bit. Scrappy defender for his size. Tries hard.

Seems like a spark plug off the bench guy that can be used for small bursts because he tends to wear/break down with more play.

Just seems like a bad use of the last decent pick we're likely to have for a while.

You convinced me. No on Alvarado.

[moss_is_1]

Yeah no thanks on Alverado, unless he's basically free. Not going to give up any picks for him.

[MN7725]

I wonder if Malcolm Brogdon will be a vet minimum or a small exception level salary player now, given his age and how much time he's missed