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Re: The Positivity Thread 

Post#401 » by Torben » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:55 am

I haven't posted in a lifetime (but check the General Board and this one almost daily), but the win over the Clippers (had to get up at 3:30 in the night as I currently live in Brussels, Belgium) made me login today in order to offer you some much needed perspective, which some of the other posters have already provided in light of the discussion surrounding the celebrations after the game ended.
Every year at the start of the season, I have been overly optimistic because of the addition of a certain player or the progress of a talented one only to see my hopes crushed after 15-20 games (with the exception of the one year we had Jimmy Butler) - every year, I have been getting up during the night and watch some 10 games per season despite the struggles, because I simply am a fan of this club no matter what.
Having had my hopes crushed so often, it simply is such a relief and feeling of success that we have finally made the postseason again. There are players and stories you can like or dislike about the current players, coaches and club officials but let me point out one thing: When reading the threads here, I always feel that the Timberwolves have a great (international) community and I have a familiar feeling when I read the names of certain posters (of which I appreciate some more than others :wink: ) - and this base simply deserves to be happy and celebrate their team. I say this even though there is a way of criticism towards player performances that is sometimes exaggerated and over the top (in some nights I can relate though :wink: ).
And as this is the positivity thread: I have a positive feeling that we will see a competitive against the Grizzlies! We are on a good path!
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Post#402 » by _AIJ_ » Tue Nov 8, 2022 9:51 pm

Im done being negative. POSITIVITY!!!!! Lets go Wolves!
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Post#403 » by Klomp » Tue Nov 8, 2022 9:54 pm

We are playing about as bad as we could possibly play and we've been hovering around .500 all season. If things start clicking, this can still be very good.
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Re: The Positivity Thread 

Post#404 » by TimberKat » Tue Nov 8, 2022 11:49 pm

Cam Johnson is out and they played reasonably well against Booker last time. Hope Gobert will be back tomorrow. They are still on target to be 9-8 or 8-9.
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Post#405 » by minimus » Wed Nov 9, 2022 9:46 am

Klomp wrote:We are playing about as bad as we could possibly play and we've been hovering around .500 all season. If things start clicking, this can still be very good.


That is exactly my thought. This is probably the lowest point of this season:

1) our leaders are out of shape. Gobert after Eurobasket was tired, and now has just had covid. Ant is clearly out of shape after being overweight in offseason. Towns is recovering from illness.

2) we barely had preseason games with Gobert and Towns playing together. Our backcourt has no chemistry with two big lineup whatsoever

3) we dont have a structure around Gobert (which was a strength of UTA team) and we "dont have legs" to play aggressive high wall defense as we did last year.

We should slowly get better
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Re: The Positivity Thread 

Post#406 » by frankenwolf » Wed Nov 9, 2022 7:01 pm

minimus wrote:
Klomp wrote:We are playing about as bad as we could possibly play and we've been hovering around .500 all season. If things start clicking, this can still be very good.


That is exactly my thought. This is probably the lowest point of this season:

1) our leaders are out of shape. Gobert after Eurobasket was tired, and now has just had covid. Ant is clearly out of shape after being overweight in offseason. Towns is recovering from illness.

2) we barely had preseason games with Gobert and Towns playing together. Our backcourt has no chemistry with two big lineup whatsoever

3) we dont have a structure around Gobert (which was a strength of UTA team) and we "dont have legs" to play aggressive high wall defense as we did last year.

We should slowly get better


Exactly. This team is still just reacting instead of initiating action. Give them 20 games and let Finch do Finch things. I still guarantee this team will be in the playoffs as at least a 6 seed.
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Re: The Positivity Thread 

Post#407 » by Note30 » Wed Nov 9, 2022 7:23 pm

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minimus wrote:
Klomp wrote:We are playing about as bad as we could possibly play and we've been hovering around .500 all season. If things start clicking, this can still be very good.


That is exactly my thought. This is probably the lowest point of this season:

1) our leaders are out of shape. Gobert after Eurobasket was tired, and now has just had covid. Ant is clearly out of shape after being overweight in offseason. Towns is recovering from illness.

2) we barely had preseason games with Gobert and Towns playing together. Our backcourt has no chemistry with two big lineup whatsoever

3) we dont have a structure around Gobert (which was a strength of UTA team) and we "dont have legs" to play aggressive high wall defense as we did last year.

We should slowly get better


Exactly. This team is still just reacting instead of initiating action. Give them 20 games and let Finch do Finch things. I still guarantee this team will be in the playoffs as at least a 6 seed.


So barely better than where we were last year. T
We traded 5 picks. We should be better.
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Post#408 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:36 am

Hi here’s my two cents.

First of all, im a fan of the two big line-ups. And im also pushing for my team to do the same.

With that said, i’ve been following other teams who are doing the same structure.

The problem with your team is your 1-2-3 positions does not fit with your 4-5 positions. This is why it feels clunky.

What you guys need is a three guard line-up. A very good example how this works is the Cavs roster with Mitchell-Garland-Levert. This gives your backcourt a better control of your offense. Defensively, you can switch everything and force the defense to take it inside where you have two bigs roaming the paint.

as a quick fix, I’d sub McDaniels with a true PG who can dribble drive and shoot (possibly upgrade for mclaughlin; Sexton?). The good thing above the double big line-up is it allows you to play a bad defensive backcourt and there is an abundance of guards who can dribble drive and shoot nowadays. Hell, Hornets just got a really good one for cheap with Dennis Smith Jr.

You then play small with..
DLo-Edwards-Prince?-McDaniels-Towns
- very spaced offensively and switch everything

Play big with..
Sexton?-DLo-Edwards-Towns-Gobert
- dribble drive offense, funnel shots to the paint

I see teams trying to play big like the Bucks. But people forget Khris Middleton is a SG. Bucks is actually playing a 3 guard line-up with 2 bigs with Giannis and Brolo. They then use Portis to play small (sub Brolo) or extra big (sub Allen), depending on the situation.
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Post#409 » by Calinks » Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:26 pm

76ciology wrote:Hi here’s my two cents.

First of all, im a fan of the two big line-ups. And im also pushing for my team to do the same.

With that said, i’ve been following other teams who are doing the same structure.

The problem with your team is your 1-2-3 positions does not fit with your 4-5 positions. This is why it feels clunky.

What you guys need is a three guard line-up. A very good example how this works is the Cavs roster with Mitchell-Garland-Levert. This gives your backcourt a better control of your offense. Defensively, you can switch everything and force the defense to take it inside where you have two bigs roaming the paint.

as a quick fix, I’d sub McDaniels with a true PG who can dribble drive and shoot (possibly upgrade for mclaughlin; Sexton?). The good thing above the double big line-up is it allows you to play a bad defensive backcourt and there is an abundance of guards who can dribble drive and shoot nowadays. Hell, Hornets just got a really good one for cheap with Dennis Smith Jr.

You then play small with..
DLo-Edwards-Prince?-McDaniels-Towns
- very spaced offensively and switch everything

Play big with..
Sexton?-DLo-Edwards-Towns-Gobert
- dribble drive offense, funnel shots to the paint

I see teams trying to play big like the Bucks. But people forget Khris Middleton is a SG. Bucks is actually playing a 3 guard line-up with 2 bigs with Giannis and Brolo. They then use Portis to play small (sub Brolo) or extra big (sub Allen), depending on the situation.

I definitely think our guard play is killing us.
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Re: The Positivity Thread 

Post#410 » by Klomp » Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:14 pm

Calinks wrote:I definitely think our guard play is killing us.

That's not very positive
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Re: The Positivity Thread 

Post#411 » by m2002brian » Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:48 pm

Klomp wrote:
Calinks wrote:I am positive our guard play is killing us.

That's not very positive.



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Post#412 » by Klomp » Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:28 pm

I don't blame Connelly. I'd do the trade again. I like the concept. I don't think it's Finch. Not KAT. Not Gobert. Not Ant. But something is just off...

That said, I don't think there's an overhaul needed. In some ways, I think it's about the power structure. I get running the offense through Towns and I don't think he's necessarily the problem, but I think getting him into even more of a secondary ballhandling option helps Ant because hopefully that means Towns is spacing more than driving. Not necessarily less in usage, but in role. Where he's being used. I'm actually surprised his FG rate per36 is the lowest of his career.

With Towns spacing more than creating, hopefully the guards wouldn't be so sticky with the ball either.
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Post#413 » by m2002brian » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:33 pm

Klomp wrote:I don't blame Connelly. I'd do the trade again. I like the concept. I don't think it's Finch. Not KAT. Not Gobert. Not Ant. But something is just off...

That said, I don't think there's an overhaul needed. In some ways, I think it's about the power structure. I get running the offense through Towns and I don't think he's necessarily the problem, but I think getting him into even more of a secondary ballhandling option helps Ant because hopefully that means Towns is spacing more than driving. Not necessarily less in usage, but in role. Where he's being used. I'm actually surprised his FG rate per36 is the lowest of his career.

With Towns spacing more than creating, hopefully the guards wouldn't be so sticky with the ball either.



I watched a nice video on YT today about the offensive issues. One thing that really stood out was KAT and Rudy both rolling at the same time. It seems KAT should be popping more and Rudy rolling.
It would be nice to have the offense stress more called plays. It goes against the read and react, but maybe having a more structured play calling system early on can lead to later being able to run a read and react system based on what was learned from the play calling portion of the year.
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Re: The Positivity Thread 

Post#414 » by TimberKat » Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:01 am

Positivity: Heat 4-7:GSW 4-7:76ers 5-6. Wolves played relatively well in 4qtr vs Suns with a mini come back until Ant missed the 3pt. Our opponents' 3pt pct seem high and will regress to avg at some point. At some point, Towns will realize he doesn't play center when Gobert is in the game. At some point Finch will realize DsLOw is not a point guard.
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Post#415 » by Calinks » Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:14 pm

Just think about how sweet everything will be when we turn it around and start ripping off 6 game win streaks!
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Post#416 » by minimus » Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:49 am

I liked how our bigs tried to tap rebounds, make huslte plays and win 50/50 balls. That Gobert steal was something that from MIN 2021-22, when Vando constantly did these hustle plays. Same with Towns tap when we secured an important rebound.

I also liked Anderson-Towns connection on offense.
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Post#417 » by theGreatRC » Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:55 am

Positivity is that we are playing like ass cheeks and are still 6-8.

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Post#418 » by Klomp » Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:31 pm

theGreatRC wrote:Positivity is that we are playing like ass cheeks and are still 6-8.

EXACTLY.
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Re: The Positivity Thread 

Post#419 » by Biff Cooper » Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:21 pm

Klomp wrote:
theGreatRC wrote:Positivity is that we are playing like ass cheeks and are still 6-8.

EXACTLY.


And we've been playing noticeably better basketball over the past two games. We just had two off days to continue to work on building off this better basketball. Time to start a winning streak
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Post#420 » by Klomp » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:07 pm

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