Game 66: Minnesota Timberwolves (38-27) @ Utah Jazz (31-30) - 10:30 PM ET

[Neeva]

This choose a side stuff is ridiculous. Are we back in the 1400's? Should ignorance and blind territorial allegiances rule the day? CAn I not still be a fan of this team, be a fan of Teague and Butler but also feel they were wrong? Can I not still be a fan of Ricky Rubio, a player I watched grow and cheered for for several years? Can I not be upset when that player is on the receiving end of a dirty play?

What someone has or has not accomplished on this franchise is irrelevant. If you had a connection with that player, you are free to support or feel for them in whatever capacity you want. Is it really so baffling to people, that they feel a deeper connection to someone they have watched for 6 years, than someone who has just been here for 6 months? Why is that a problem?

If your best friend did a heinous act, would you be obligated to "pick their side" because you have decades of friendship even though they did a wrong? Things don't have to be black and white, all in or all out. Reality is full of greys. I don't like the play Teague made on Rubio, I don't like Jimmy continuing to dump on Rubio afterward. I don't like the fact that Rubio and Jazz won last night, I would love to crush them in all future games.

This wasn’t henious, this is blown completely out of proportion because it’s Ricky.

So true if that was on Crowder these ricky fanboys wouldn't be crying.

[Mattya]

This choose a side stuff is ridiculous. Are we back in the 1400's? Should ignorance and blind territorial allegiances rule the day? CAn I not still be a fan of this team, be a fan of Teague and Butler but also feel they were wrong? Can I not still be a fan of Ricky Rubio, a player I watched grow and cheered for for several years? Can I not be upset when that player is on the receiving end of a dirty play?

What someone has or has not accomplished on this franchise is irrelevant. If you had a connection with that player, you are free to support or feel for them in whatever capacity you want. Is it really so baffling to people, that they feel a deeper connection to someone they have watched for 6 years, than someone who has just been here for 6 months? Why is that a problem?

If your best friend did a heinous act, would you be obligated to "pick their side" because you have decades of friendship even though they did a wrong? Things don't have to be black and white, all in or all out. Reality is full of greys. I don't like the play Teague made on Rubio, I don't like Jimmy continuing to dump on Rubio afterward. I don't like the fact that Rubio and Jazz won last night, I would love to crush them in all future games.

This wasn’t henious, this is blown completely out of proportion because it’s Ricky.

So true if that was on Crowder these ricky fanboys wouldn't be crying.

Pretty sure he did commit a very similar foul on Crowder the last time we played Cleveland.

[steveshikadance]

Heinous act? Damn it's as if Teague murdered someone, get a grip, and get those ur mouth out of Rubio's rear, Jimmy just backing his boy, glad he did it, screw Ricky he sucked in Minny anyway

[Calinks]

People are spinning the narrative. I DID NOT say Teague committed a heinous act, I said he made a dirty play. Heinous was used with a later comparison in my post. Try reading the source material thoroughly before criticising the sentiment.

[Mattya]

But you’re the one comparing apples to oranges. There is little to compare.

[theGreatRC]

As a teammate, it's an unwritten rule to defend your guy no matter what he does. Just like it's an unwritten rule to not react when he gets dunked on, ankles broke, etc.

We as fans can think whatever the **** we want to think & Jeff Teague has a history of dirty plays on guys like Wall, LeBron, Belly & now Ricky. We don't need to defend people on the team just because we're fans of the team.

The only thing that pissed me off about what Jeff did was that it just came at a time where we actually needed him because our two stars were gone. I couldn't give two **** if it was Ricky (And i'm a big Ricky fan), all I cared about was that he made a dumb move and got himself ejected.

Now we're in 6th place & we're about to get a wake up call real soon because every team we're playing against is .500+ and most of them are top tier playoff teams

[Mattya]

As a teammate, it's an unwritten rule to defend your guy no matter what he does. Just like it's an unwritten rule to not react when he gets dunked on, ankles broke, etc.

We as fans can think whatever the **** we want to think & Jeff Teague has a history of dirty plays on guys like Wall, LeBron, Belly & now Ricky. We don't need to defend people on the team just because we're fans of the team.

The only thing that pissed me off about what Jeff did was that it just came at a time where we actually needed him because our two stars were gone. I couldn't give two **** if it was Ricky (And i'm a big Ricky fan), all I cared about was that he made a dumb move and got himself ejected.

Now we're in 6th place & we're about to get a wake up call real soon because every team we're playing against is .500+ and most of them are top tier playoff teams

This I agree with. You can be upset that he got himself taken out of the game. But can we at least not make up BS about Teague decking Rubio. If this is a dirty play this is about the lowest end of dirty play you can get.

[Calinks]

But you’re the one comparing apples to oranges. There is little to compare.

Here is the comparison.

Some people are acting like you are either with or against the team based on the incident. I believe that is an asinine notion. If you had a life long friend that did something horrible, do you have to stand by them because "that's your best friend?" No. You can choose to still stick with them, you can choose to erase them from your life, or you can take a road down the middle where you condemn what they have done but still try to support or help them through it. There are many ways you can choose to approach the situation and all are valid.

Some of us fans had a problem with what went down last night. Doesn't make us disloyal to the team or disloyal to players on the team. We don't have to agree or like everything a player or the team does. Some people were totally fine with it, that's okay, they have the right too. I'm not one of them, it bothered me. I don't have to choose a side, I don't have to get with the program, I am not being anti Timberwolves, or even anti-Teague or Butler. I am a grown human being who didn't like the behavior he saw last night and I take offense to people basically telling me I am wrong to feel the way I do.

[Mattya]

But you’re the one comparing apples to oranges. There is little to compare.

Here is the comparison.

Some people are acting like you are either with or against the team based on the incident. I believe that is an asinine notion. If you had a life long friend that did something horrible, do you have to stand by them because "that's your best friend?" No. You can choose to still stick with them, you can choose to erase them from your life, or you can take a road down the middle where you condemn what they have done but still try to support or help them through it. There are many ways you can choose to approach the situation and all are valid.

Some of us fans had a problem with what went down last night. Doesn't make us disloyal to the team or disloyal to players on the team. We don't have to agree or like everything a player or the team does. Some people were totally fine with it, that's okay, they have the right too. I'm not one of them, it bothered me. I don't have to choose a side, I don't have to get with the program, I am not being anti Timberwolves, or even anti-Teague or Butler. I am a grown human being who didn't like the behavior he saw last night and I take offense to people basically telling me I am wrong to feel the way I do.

You can feel that way, but we don’t have to twist and contort what happened to fit the anti Teague narrative by certain posters in this thread, they should absolutely be called out. To me this was barely dirty, and if it were anyone but Rubio I doubt that people would have an issue.

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This looks a lot worse to me, but when I check the game thread and I don’t think I even saw a mention of it in the game thread.

[Folklore]

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Jeff has a history of hitting guys when he gets frustrated.I'm still pissed off about it, mot many people can get hit it the face and be cool with the person afterwards.

[TheDominator273]

But you’re the one comparing apples to oranges. There is little to compare.

Here is the comparison.

Some people are acting like you are either with or against the team based on the incident. I believe that is an asinine notion. If you had a life long friend that did something horrible, do you have to stand by them because "that's your best friend?" No. You can choose to still stick with them, you can choose to erase them from your life, or you can take a road down the middle where you condemn what they have done but still try to support or help them through it. There are many ways you can choose to approach the situation and all are valid.

Some of us fans had a problem with what went down last night. Doesn't make us disloyal to the team or disloyal to players on the team. We don't have to agree or like everything a player or the team does. Some people were totally fine with it, that's okay, they have the right too. I'm not one of them, it bothered me. I don't have to choose a side, I don't have to get with the program, I am not being anti Timberwolves, or even anti-Teague or Butler. I am a grown human being who didn't like the behavior he saw last night and I take offense to people basically telling me I am wrong to feel the way I do.

You can feel that way, but we don’t have to twist and contort what happened to fit the anti Teague narrative by certain posters in this thread, they should absolutely be called out. To me this was barely dirty, and if it were anyone but Rubio I doubt that people would have an issue.

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This looks a lot worse to me, but when I check the game thread and I don’t think I even saw a mention of it in the game thread.

How is that worse? At least when he fouled Crowder he actually made a play on the ball and didn't just lower his shoulder and throw a body check

[Tensten]

This looks a lot worse to me, but when I check the game thread and I don’t think I even saw a mention of it in the game thread.

This looks worse to you? Play where Teague actually made effort to get ball first with shove in the end vs shoving somebody from behind towards sideline stands without any **** reason. Really?

To me this was barely dirty, and if it were anyone but Rubio I doubt that people would have an issue.

When people start bring out hypothetical statements you know they have lost their plot.

Why have you need to come up with those little lies just to justify some stupid action. Teague **** up. In fact it was Rubio might been just a coincidence he had ball and Teague was guarding him.

What wasn't coincidence was Butler sudden urge to tweet after two years just to go after Rubio. It was obvious it was not about team or Teague, but direct tweet at Rubio. Honesty no idea what Butler is trying to achieve or why he has such passion to separate Rubio from Minnesota fanbase. Even that exchange of words in first game this season where Butler gave up attacking just to go at Rubio. Butler forcing something out of nothing because they rarely even guard eachother in game cause they play different positions.

[LibertyPrime]

Judging by the level of vitriol around here, you'd think someone actually got hurt on the Teague play. Look, it was a bad, hard foul out of frustration. That's it. Back in the 90's, stuff like this happened once a game at least.

Let's be straightforward here - the Jazz specialize in ultraphysical, always-dancing-on-the-borderline-of-dirty play and have since the days of Stockton-Malone. For them of all people to be clutching at their pearls after a hard foul like this - especially after being handed the absolute gift of a KAT ejection over the equivalent of some raised voices - is the height of hypocrisy.

The refs decided this one, plain and simple. More's the pity.

[Mattya]

Here is the comparison.

Some people are acting like you are either with or against the team based on the incident. I believe that is an asinine notion. If you had a life long friend that did something horrible, do you have to stand by them because "that's your best friend?" No. You can choose to still stick with them, you can choose to erase them from your life, or you can take a road down the middle where you condemn what they have done but still try to support or help them through it. There are many ways you can choose to approach the situation and all are valid.

Some of us fans had a problem with what went down last night. Doesn't make us disloyal to the team or disloyal to players on the team. We don't have to agree or like everything a player or the team does. Some people were totally fine with it, that's okay, they have the right too. I'm not one of them, it bothered me. I don't have to choose a side, I don't have to get with the program, I am not being anti Timberwolves, or even anti-Teague or Butler. I am a grown human being who didn't like the behavior he saw last night and I take offense to people basically telling me I am wrong to feel the way I do.

That barely a play on the ball, more contact, and Crowder is reading to go the rim.

You can feel that way, but we don’t have to twist and contort what happened to fit the anti Teague narrative by certain posters in this thread, they should absolutely be called out. To me this was barely dirty, and if it were anyone but Rubio I doubt that people would have an issue.

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This looks a lot worse to me, but when I check the game thread and I don’t think I even saw a mention of it in the game thread.

How is that worse? At least when he fouled Crowder he actually made a play on the ball and didn't just lower his shoulder and throw a body check

So because he made a half hearted effort to slap his arms, that makes it less dirty? This looks far more physical and more dangerous.

[Mattya]

This looks a lot worse to me, but when I check the game thread and I don’t think I even saw a mention of it in the game thread.

This looks worse to you? Play where Teague actually made effort to get ball first with shove in the end vs shoving somebody from behind towards sideline stands without any **** reason. Really?

To me this was barely dirty, and if it were anyone but Rubio I doubt that people would have an issue.

When people start bring out hypothetical statements you know they have lost their plot.

Why have you need to come up with those little lies just to justify some stupid action. Teague **** up. In fact it was Rubio might been just a coincidence he had ball and Teague was guarding him.

What wasn't coincidence was Butler sudden urge to tweet after two years just to go after Rubio. It was obvious it was not about team or Teague, but direct tweet at Rubio. Honesty no idea what Butler is trying to achieve or why he has such passion to separate Rubio from Minnesota fanbase. Even that exchange of words in first game this season where Butler gave up attacking just to go at Rubio. Butler forcing something out of nothing because they rarely even guard eachother in game cause they play different positions.

Absolutely looks more dirty. Rubio didn’t even hit the first row that hard. Getting taken out from behind is worse than getting hit from the side, and slapping down on Crowders arms doesn’t make that a basketball play. This just proves my point. The fanboys don’t care at all if it isn’t Rubio.

What lies did I tell?

You are still upset the Butler went at Rubio in the first game?

What does it matter if he tweets at Rubio? I don’t think Butler cares what Wolves fans think of Rubio.

[Merc_Porto]

What does it matter if he tweets at Rubio? I don’t think Butler cares what Wolves fans think of Rubio.

I think he cares a lot.

[Mattya]

What does it matter if he tweets at Rubio? I don’t think Butler cares what Wolves fans think of Rubio.

I think he cares a lot.

Why? Him not letting Rubio into the Wolves locker room as a Jazz player, and the tweeting that Rubio “got up fast”? That doesn’t scream cares a lot about what wolves fans think of Rubio.

[TheDominator273]

That barely a play on the ball, more contact, and Crowder is reading to go the rim.

You can feel that way, but we don’t have to twist and contort what happened to fit the anti Teague narrative by certain posters in this thread, they should absolutely be called out. To me this was barely dirty, and if it were anyone but Rubio I doubt that people would have an issue.

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This looks a lot worse to me, but when I check the game thread and I don’t think I even saw a mention of it in the game thread.

How is that worse? At least when he fouled Crowder he actually made a play on the ball and didn't just lower his shoulder and throw a body check

So because he made a half hearted effort to slap his arms, that makes it less dirty? This looks far more physical and more dangerous.

Yeah a half hearted attempt at the ball makes it more of a basketball play. It's a hard foul for sure, but not dirty. I'm not sure how you're failing to see the difference. Body checking a player into the first row is a much dirtier play than a hard foul swiping across someone's arms from behind.

[Mattya]

How is that worse? At least when he fouled Crowder he actually made a play on the ball and didn't just lower his shoulder and throw a body check

So because he made a half hearted effort to slap his arms, that makes it less dirty? This looks far more physical and more dangerous.

Yeah a half hearted attempt at the ball makes it more of a basketball play. It's a hard foul for sure, but not dirty. I'm not sure how you're failing to see the difference. Body checking a player into the first row is a much dirtier play than a hard foul swiping across someone's arms from behind.

The only reason he swipes at his arms is so that he can’t get the shot up, Rubio isn’t getting a shot up so he didn’t have to. That’s just as dirty.

[K4P]

As long as Jimmy is winning us games and making his teammates better, does it matter what he is tweeting/doing off the court?