mBlacJacMac wrote:winforlose wrote:TheZachAttack wrote:
Sure, but I can remember another 4-5 additional passes and in general for in terms of the PG skills I am talking about I even would probably say that the stats matter less than what he was doing. I am not really looking at the stats. I think playing with Nix and Hifi he was also off ball a decent amount and neither of those guys pass much. I think some more consistent aggression would be nice to see, but I think some of it is him playing a role and within a role.
I think you are underselling his management of the game and his willingness to commit to starting the action and playing within the flow of that action instead of purely calling his own number. I think in his role as a PG, 14 shots in 28 min is not bad for getting his shot off. I’d like to see him get more 3 point shots up. His willingness and ability to play within a system will get him on the floor earlier rather than later.I think he should use his burst a bit more though, I think he’s said that he’s trying to figure out when to be aggressive when he’s asked to manage the game management duties.
On TSJ, I again hear what you’re saying and I don’t disagree. His ability to shoot the corner 3 will ultimately govern how he’s defended. If he doesn’t force the defender to come out he won’t be able to drive as easily into traffic. I think he will shoot plenty of 3’s judging by his career history and I think even if he’s more of a volume shooter than a knockdown scorer that will be fine. I think that you’re phrasing the question wrong. I don’t think that Finch or the Wolves want Shannon to shoot 3’s. I think they want him to attack advantages aggressively.
I 100% think Finch wants Shannon Jr attacking moving defenses aggressively. Shannon is a mismatch against any rotating defense with his willingness to go up strong at the rim and draw contact. I think if defenses take away the drive through letting him shoot then he will need to shoot. I think Finch sees Shannon aggressively attacking the advantage and forcing additional defensive rotations is exactly what Finch wants
Sorry but I gotta disagree. Dane Moore talks about TSJ in today’s episode and he says it better than me. Long story short, with Gobert and Karl down low, attacking the paint off a close out is what Kyle did. We don’t need TSJ attacking an already crowded paint, we need him drilling corner 3s. I think it is THE skill that will determine how much playing time he gets, because you don’t want someone who cannot shoot the long ball with Rudy. I am a guy who says winning at Summer League is like winning in the preseason, amusing, but irrelevant. Doing the things that more closely mirror your role in the NBA is what matters. Which is why Minott needs to stop driving and show off his back to the basket and corner 3 game. Finch will want Minott running a fast break or driving into traffic as much as he will want Booker to send Conley at him again.
RD is gonna be playing with Ant, Karl, Naz, Jaden, and more excellent catch and shoot players. If you want us shooting more 3s and playing faster, getting into defenses before they are set, and kicking to open shooters is gonna be our bread and butter. I agree that RD will be off ball sometimes, but I also think that playing on ball he should use every opportunity he can get to develop that JMAC like shot pocket pass. That is how RD goes from a good PG2 to a great PG2. The better he is at making others better, the more open he will be and with a lot less effort on his part. Again this is not a slight on RD now, this is an observation about what I want to see more of.
If you're right, we drafted the wrong guy. There were plenty of knockdown 3 point shooters available at our pick. We took the guy who was probably the best in college basketball at attacking the rim.
There is also no reason to think Shannon can't shoot the 3. He hit 36% on 7 attempts last year, as well as 80% from the line on 8/game. All while being the primary focus of opposing defenses. I'll be shocked if he doesn't shoot the 3 well enough that he has to always be defended.
I think Zach is 100% right on this one. And TC even mentioned it after drafting him. We need to play faster and we need to attack more. That's what Dilly and TSJ bring to the table.
And its not like Rudy just stands under the basket on offense. There will be more than plenty of opportunities for TSJ to drive. And I'd say Rudy will make his job easier, not harder.
Plus, I mean Naz does it well. I think if we create spacing that doesn’t allow players to attack aggressively off the catch and to create advantages and start the flow offense we’re in big trouble. I think Finch loved when the offense was in flow mode and players were consistently making aggressive decisions, getting advantages, getting the defense in rotation, and passing for a better advantage until they got an easy look.
I think Finch wanted Anderson to be a better shooter so that defenses were forced to play all the way out and could be then more consistently pressed.
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