Prospect Watch Thread

eyeteeth · Post #441 » by **eyeteeth** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:10 pm

The smaller players make the European court look so much more spacious. It always worries me when wondering how players will translate to the much more crowded NBA court.

Krapinsky · Post #442 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 7:04 pm

Should we be considering Kemba Walker?? DX is really touting him up and I wonder if he's one fo the few sure things in this draft? And also one of the few, if not the only, player/s in the draft that you can give the ball at crunch time and he can get you a basket.

Post #443 » by **Klomp** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 8:52 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Should we be considering Kemba Walker?? DX is really touting him up and I wonder if he's one fo the few sure things in this draft? And also one of the few, if not the only, player/s in the draft that you can give the ball at crunch time and he can get you a basket.

Depends on if you think we need an overhaul at point. Personally, I think hes too small for this league, much like TJ Ford was.

Krapinsky · Post #444 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 8:54 pm

Klomp wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Should we be considering Kemba Walker?? DX is really touting him up and I wonder if he's one fo the few sure things in this draft? And also one of the few, if not the only, player/s in the draft that you can give the ball at crunch time and he can get you a basket.

Depends on if you think we need an overhaul at point. Personally, I think hes too small for this league, much like TJ Ford was.

Chris Paul? Brandon Jennings?

AQuintus · Post #445 » by **AQuintus** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 9:01 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Should we be considering Kemba Walker?? DX is really touting him up and I wonder if he's one fo the few sure things in this draft? And also one of the few, if not the only, player/s in the draft that you can give the ball at crunch time and he can get you a basket.

No. Walker reminds me way too much of Flynn. Plus we already have our starter in Rubio and our backup in Ridnour. We really don't need anymore Points.

Krapinsky · Post #446 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 9:11 pm

AQuintus wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Should we be considering Kemba Walker?? DX is really touting him up and I wonder if he's one fo the few sure things in this draft? And also one of the few, if not the only, player/s in the draft that you can give the ball at crunch time and he can get you a basket.

No. Walker reminds me way too much of Flynn. Plus we already have our starter in Rubio and our backup in Ridnour. We really don't need anymore Points.

Allow me to plays devils advocate.

We don't have anyone that can create his own shot. Rubio is not going to be able to score at the end of games. We our going to continue to have 4th quarter failures until we find someone that can take over a game. Walker projects to be that guy. Walker is a lot better than Flynn. He's better at every aspect of the game.

Krapinsky · Post #447 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 9:16 pm

DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
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bluethunder0005 · Post #448 » by **bluethunder0005** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 9:18 pm

Walker isn't a good decision maker though. He can get by being quicker than everyone at the college level but it doesn't usually translate as well to the NBA. Jennings is a bad example of that because he shoots around 37% for his career and gets 5 assists to 2.5 turnovers I believe. Chris Paul is easily a better floor general and has a much better shot selection than both. I'd bet Jimmer will have a better career than Walker will have. Now if we can get Kemba with Utah's pick then maybe I'd be alright with it and having him backup Rubio and play in the crunch time if we need someone who is willing to take the shot in crunch time.

jpatrick · Post #449 » by **jpatrick** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 9:25 pm

Are you sure that Walker is better than a healthy Flynn? If Flynn had stayed in school, he'd only be a senior this year and IMO Flynn was better than Walker as a soph and frosh in college.

I agree with Aquintas that they are very similar. To me they're both small, very quick, shoot first point guards. Walker might be a little quicker than Flynn but a healthy Flynn (the one we saw last year) is stronger and more explosive. If Flynn was healthy, a senior at Syracuse this year and given the green light that Walker has been given, I'm sure he could average 25+ per game.

jpatrick · Post #450 » by **jpatrick** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 9:27 pm

Krapinsky wrote:DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
RT @JasonKingYahoo: Source says Perry Jones suspended for remainder of season by NCAA for allegedly accepting imp. bennies. Baylor appealing

Not that it was ever a question, but I think I know who'll be the first player to declare for the draft.

Krapinsky · Post #451 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 9:36 pm

bluethunder0005 wrote:Walker isn't a good decision maker though. He can get by being quicker than everyone at the college level but it doesn't usually translate as well to the NBA. Jennings is a bad example of that because he shoots around 37% for his career and gets 5 assists to 2.5 turnovers I believe. Chris Paul is easily a better floor general and has a much better shot selection than both. I'd bet Jimmer will have a better career than Walker will have. Now if we can get Kemba with Utah's pick then maybe I'd be alright with it and having him backup Rubio and play in the crunch time if we need someone who is willing to take the shot in crunch time.

Huh? This is the #1 thing that you can project.

Decision making??? Are you serious? Walker has the lowest turnover rates per possession in DX's entire database.

http://www.draftexpress.com/stats.php?y ... &sort2=ASC

jpatrick wrote:Are you sure that Walker is better than a healthy Flynn? If Flynn had stayed in school, he'd only be a senior this year and IMO Flynn was better than Walker as a soph and frosh in college.

I agree with Aquintas that they are very similar. To me they're both small, very quick, shoot first point guards. Walker might be a little quicker than Flynn but a healthy Flynn (the one we saw last year) is stronger and more explosive. If Flynn was healthy, a senior at Syracuse this year and given the green light that Walker has been given, I'm sure he could average 25+ per game.

Walker wasn't a shoot first point guard last year. He's shoot first this year because his team demands it of him.

You're stretching you're imagination with Flynn. He's an average at best shooter with poor decision making. Walker is a good shooter with good decision making.

Post #452 » by **Klomp** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 9:57 pm

How high will Burks climb? I think he'll be a top 5 pick by draft day.

Krapinsky · Post #453 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 10:04 pm

Klomp wrote:How high will Burks climb? I think he'll be a top 5 pick by draft day.

I think he'll stay late lotto/mid first range are (10-16). I'm not in love with him. He's not overly athletic, not a great passer, an average defender, and can't shoot. So basically, he's Evan Turner without the plus passing and defense.

collin_k41 · Post #454 » by **collin_k41** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 10:07 pm

His statline so far today against Iowa State in the opening game of the Big 12 Tournament.

A. Burks 29 Pts, 15 Reb, 6 Ast, 3 Stl, 1 Blk

jpatrick · Post #455 » by **jpatrick** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 10:14 pm

Damn. Burks is the one guy I really want to watch but haven't been able to catch on TV. Ford keeps going on about his inability to hit a jumper. Shooting under 30% from the college three pt line is not good for a potential NBA SG. Does it look like it's something that could develop? Good form?

Who is the better wing prospect in this draft, Barnes or Burks?

Post #456 » by **Klomp** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 10:14 pm

Anyone watch the end of St Johns-Rutgers?

Post #457 » by **Klomp** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 10:16 pm

collin_k41 wrote:His statline so far today against Iowa State in the opening game of the Big 12 Tournament.

A. Burks 29 Pts, 15 Reb, 6 Ast, 3 Stl, 1 Blk

11-14 FTs

Krapinsky · Post #458 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 10:19 pm

collin_k41 wrote:His statline so far today against Iowa State in the opening game of the Big 12 Tournament.

A. Burks 29 Pts, 15 Reb, 6 Ast, 3 Stl, 1 Blk

Notice how his team barely squeaked by Iowa State -- the worst team in the Big 12 -- though?

Krapinsky · Post #459 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 10:28 pm

It will be interesting to see if the Buffs get in the NCAA tournament. If they lose to K-State I imagine they will be definitively on the bubble.

moss_is_1 · Post #460 » by **moss_is_1** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 10:56 pm

Klomp wrote:
collin_k41 wrote:His statline so far today against Iowa State in the opening game of the Big 12 Tournament.

A. Burks 29 Pts, 15 Reb, 6 Ast, 3 Stl, 1 Blk

11-14 FTs

That would be the main thing I love about his game...getting to the line at a high rate. You can improve a jumpshot, but usually you either are able to get to the line or you're not.