***Around The League 2020 Bubble Thread***

Rookie-Mistake · Post #441 » by **Rookie-Mistake** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:29 pm

Is this a sign that we're trading out of this draft??

minimus wrote:

Read on Twitter

It is getting serious

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minimus · Post #442 » by **minimus** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:38 pm

Rookie-Mistake wrote:Is this a sign that we're trading out of this draft??
minimus wrote:

Read on Twitter

It is getting serious

No idea. But, I like the fact that our FO makes some decisions that might pay off long term, instead of shortcuts. Rosas is playing chess not checkers.

Jedzz · Post #443 » by **Jedzz** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:47 pm

Klomp wrote:
Jedzz wrote:Brendan 9h
the man who said thon maker will be an mvp is now making draft picks

Pao 9h
Sounds like the Mel Kiper Jr of the NBA.

Hopefully it's better help than the twitter verse thinks.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

I don't know why I must click all your links to see what it's about.

Jedzz · Post #444 » by **Jedzz** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Rookie-Mistake wrote:Is this a sign that we're trading out of this draft??
minimus wrote:

Read on Twitter

It is getting serious

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Maybe it's just sign they don't want to mess up this years decision. Bringing more heads into the room.

Killboard · Post #445 » by **Killboard** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:59 pm

minimus wrote:
Neeva wrote:Gershon is guy that loves Edwards(and Toppin) and not as high on Ball.

I wonder whether Dane Moore tweet means that we will trade our FRP for future consideration (2021 FRP). I also don't know he is in charge for Euro scouting.

He is a specialist in high school (also called AAU) prospects. It specially important for the 2022 draft when the one and one rule will be eliminated, allowing players to jump directly from high school to NBA again.

It's also important to consider his knowledge of Wiseman in this scenario, since he barely played in college, and when we don't know if there will be a college basketball season, as how much he can help with the undrafted rookies, who can be overlooked for a bad season in college. Naz Reid is a good example, he was a top high school player who went under the radar for a poor situation in LSU.

minimus · Post #446 » by **minimus** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:01 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Give me size and skill every time over size or skill. Go Lakers. If I can only have one or the other I will go with Skill, but I'm looking for players that have both.

Watch on YouTube

I wish KAT had same supporting cast AD has. Future Hall of Fame member who happens to be elite playmaker and former All-Star, multiple NBA All Defense award winner, multiple assists and steals NBA leader.

KAT already started to improve his decision making which allows him to control game with passing and scoring. Something that Jokic does regularly. I think this must be the biggest area for improvement. We all know that he is an elite scorer, now it is up to Karl and DLo, and our FO to implement offensive scheme that will be able to beat the best NBA defenses. But I do believe that KAT is a truly special talent who not only fits definition of modern NBA big, but can be the best one.

KGdaBom · Post #447 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:10 pm

Killboard wrote:
minimus wrote:
Neeva wrote:Gershon is guy that loves Edwards(and Toppin) and not as high on Ball.

I wonder whether Dane Moore tweet means that we will trade our FRP for future consideration (2021 FRP). I also don't know he is in charge for Euro scouting.

He is a specialist in high school (also called AAU) prospects. It specially important for the 2022 draft when the one and one rule will be eliminated, allowing players to jump directly from high school to NBA again.

It's also important to consider his knowledge of Wiseman in this scenario, since he barely played in college, and when we don't know if there will be a college basketball season, as how much he can help with the undrafted rookies, who can be overlooked for a bad season in college. Naz Reid is a good example, he was a top high school player who went under the radar for a poor situation in LSU.

If he turns us off on Ball and on to Wiseman he will be worth his weight in gold.

Neeva · Post #448 » by **Neeva** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:13 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Killboard wrote:
minimus wrote:
I wonder whether Dane Moore tweet means that we will trade our FRP for future consideration (2021 FRP). I also don't know he is in charge for Euro scouting.

He is a specialist in high school (also called AAU) prospects. It specially important for the 2022 draft when the one and one rule will be eliminated, allowing players to jump directly from high school to NBA again.

It's also important to consider his knowledge of Wiseman in this scenario, since he barely played in college, and when we don't know if there will be a college basketball season, as how much he can help with the undrafted rookies, who can be overlooked for a bad season in college. Naz Reid is a good example, he was a top high school player who went under the radar for a poor situation in LSU.

If he turns us off on Ball and on to Wiseman he will be worth his weight in gold.

He has wiseman behind Toppin in his mock.
I am getting used to the idea the pick will be Edwards.

KGdaBom · Post #449 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:18 pm

minimus wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Give me size and skill every time over size or skill. Go Lakers. If I can only have one or the other I will go with Skill, but I'm looking for players that have both.

Watch on YouTube

I wish KAT had same supporting cast AD has. Future Hall of Fame member who happens to be elite playmaker and former All-Star, multiple NBA All Defense award winner, multiple assists and steals NBA leader.

KAT already started to improve his decision making which allows him to control game with passing and scoring. Something that Jokic does regularly. I think this must be the biggest area for improvement. We all know that he is an elite scorer, now it is up to Karl and DLo, and our FO to implement offensive scheme that will be able to beat the best NBA defenses. But I do believe that KAT is a truly special talent who not only fits definition of modern NBA big, but can be the best one.

Thanks for the link. Some sanity returning to the NBA.

KGdaBom · Post #450 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:19 pm

Neeva wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Killboard wrote:
He is a specialist in high school (also called AAU) prospects. It specially important for the 2022 draft when the one and one rule will be eliminated, allowing players to jump directly from high school to NBA again.

It's also important to consider his knowledge of Wiseman in this scenario, since he barely played in college, and when we don't know if there will be a college basketball season, as how much he can help with the undrafted rookies, who can be overlooked for a bad season in college. Naz Reid is a good example, he was a top high school player who went under the radar for a poor situation in LSU.

If he turns us off on Ball and on to Wiseman he will be worth his weight in gold.

He has wiseman behind Toppin in his mock.
I am getting used to the idea the pick will be Edwards.

It depends on what he thinks should happen or will happen, but it doesn't seem right.

Killboard · Post #451 » by **Killboard** » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:11 am

Neeva wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Killboard wrote:
He is a specialist in high school (also called AAU) prospects. It specially important for the 2022 draft when the one and one rule will be eliminated, allowing players to jump directly from high school to NBA again.

It's also important to consider his knowledge of Wiseman in this scenario, since he barely played in college, and when we don't know if there will be a college basketball season, as how much he can help with the undrafted rookies, who can be overlooked for a bad season in college. Naz Reid is a good example, he was a top high school player who went under the radar for a poor situation in LSU.

If he turns us off on Ball and on to Wiseman he will be worth his weight in gold.

He has wiseman behind Toppin in his mock.
I am getting used to the idea the pick will be Edwards.

It's public? Where I could find it?

Still, I think he will not have the final say but an informed opinion on high school prospects moving forward.

KGdaBom · Post #452 » by **KGdaBom** » Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:10 am

Killboard wrote:
Neeva wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:If he turns us off on Ball and on to Wiseman he will be worth his weight in gold.

He has wiseman behind Toppin in his mock.
I am getting used to the idea the pick will be Edwards.

It's public? Where I could find it?

Still, I think he will not have the final say but an informed opinion on high school prospects moving forward.

Here's his big board.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/NBA-Draft-2020-top-players-Anthony-Edwards-Toppin-Wiseman-LaMelo-Ball-Onyeka-Okongwu-Isaac-Okoro-Killian-Hayes-Deni-Avdija-150905889/#150905889_2
Edwards, Toppin, Wiseman, Ball at the top.
Bolmaro at 10 is very off the beaten path.

Killboard · Post #453 » by **Killboard** » Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:35 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Killboard wrote:
Neeva wrote:
He has wiseman behind Toppin in his mock.
I am getting used to the idea the pick will be Edwards.

It's public? Where I could find it?

Still, I think he will not have the final say but an informed opinion on high school prospects moving forward.

Here's his big board.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/NBA-Draft-2020-top-players-Anthony-Edwards-Toppin-Wiseman-LaMelo-Ball-Onyeka-Okongwu-Isaac-Okoro-Killian-Hayes-Deni-Avdija-150905889/#150905889_2
Edwards, Toppin, Wiseman, Ball at the top.
Bolmaro at 10 is very off the beaten path.

Toppin at 2 is nuts. Hayes at 17 is even more. Are we sure we hired the right guy? :lol:

For real, sometimes those guys are hired not to do skill evaluation but get contacts with coaches, agents, players, etc.

Neeva · Post #454 » by **Neeva** » Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:37 am

No way in hell Rosas would pass on Hayes at 17 if he is available.

KGdaBom · Post #455 » by **KGdaBom** » Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:08 am

Neeva wrote:No way in hell Rosas would pass on Hayes at 17 if he is available.

It's a big board. It's not predicting who is drafted at which spot in the draft.

Post #456 » by **Calinks** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:26 am

The Miami Heat may be in the NBA finals. Hope Culver is taking notes from Herro.

karch34 · Post #457 » by **karch34** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:15 am

Killboard wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Killboard wrote:
It's public? Where I could find it?

Still, I think he will not have the final say but an informed opinion on high school prospects moving forward.

Here's his big board.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/NBA-Draft-2020-top-players-Anthony-Edwards-Toppin-Wiseman-LaMelo-Ball-Onyeka-Okongwu-Isaac-Okoro-Killian-Hayes-Deni-Avdija-150905889/#150905889_2
Edwards, Toppin, Wiseman, Ball at the top.
Bolmaro at 10 is very off the beaten path.

Toppin at 2 is nuts. Hayes at 17 is even more. Are we sure we hired the right guy?

For real, sometimes those guys are hired not to do skill evaluation but get contacts with coaches, agents, players, etc.

Not going to be upset if someone disagrees with the blog boys. Plenty of history showing the consensus at a position was wrong in hindsight. Do I agree on some? No. That said it's been pretty much a group think there are 3 players in top tier of a "weak" draft so who's to say its right?

theGreatRC · Post #458 » by **theGreatRC** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 am

Calinks wrote:The Miami Heat may be in the NBA finals. Hope Culver is taking notes from Herro.

I wanted Herro or Rui SO bad with our pick until we traded it, then I wanted Garland. After CLE took Garland, I was praying we'd take either Coby, Rui or Herro..I really Doubt Culver will top Herro's rookie year within the next 2 years, but that's probably because I'm so down on Culver and wanted us to stay FAR away from him after seeing his NCAA run.

A guy I pray we get this year is Maxey, his workouts might make him top 10, though. If he's at 17 and we don't pick him, I might go crazy

Rookie-Mistake · Post #459 » by **Rookie-Mistake** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:10 am

Again. I will sound like a broken record..this playoff series is tangible proof that good shooting should be an absolute MUST when looking at potential draftees.

A lot of posters on here are highlighting Edwards taking tough shots blah blah blah and that's the reason why his % are low.. come on dudes.. really?

On another note.. I hope Culver turns out but I knew he couldn't shoot in college and we still drafted him and guess what? He stunk in NBA as well.. looking at these prospects I don't see many that can help us and I think Rosas knows that.. here's hoping for a trade of some kind and land a specialist player that can fit into the 1-3-1

Calinks wrote:The Miami Heat may be in the NBA finals. Hope Culver is taking notes from Herro.

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Neeva · Post #460 » by **Neeva** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:03 am

theGreatRC wrote:
Calinks wrote:The Miami Heat may be in the NBA finals. Hope Culver is taking notes from Herro.

I wanted Herro or Rui SO bad with our pick until we traded it, then I wanted Garland. After CLE took Garland, I was praying we'd take either Coby, Rui or Herro..I really Doubt Culver will top Herro's rookie year within the next 2 years, but that's probably because I'm so down on Culver and wanted us to stay FAR away from him after seeing his NCAA run.

A guy I pray we get this year is Maxey, his workouts might make him top 10, though. If he's at 17 and we don't pick him, I might go crazy

Garland stunk worse than culver his rookie year.