Kevin Durant

[minimus]

Would love KD btw, one of my all time favs, but they need a point guard BAD

In modern NBA you can get playmaking from any position. Even from bigman.

[BlacJacMac]

Would love KD btw, one of my all time favs, but they need a point guard BAD

In modern NBA you can get playmaking from any position. Even from bigman.

Sure. But that guy isn't on our roster either.

[minimus]

Would love KD btw, one of my all time favs, but they need a point guard BAD

In modern NBA you can get playmaking from any position. Even from bigman.

Sure. But that guy isn't on our roster either.

Sure, but you can kind of compensate lack of true PG. See TOR example from championship year. Gasol gave them some playmaking, Lowry and FVV were both comboguards, Kawai gave something.

[jpatrick]

If we traded for Durant, what is the most you would give up?

I’m still Randle, DDV, and either Dilly or #17. I’m fine with Minnott or Miller being thrown in.

If it’s Gobert instead of Randle, I’d be okay with it but it’d cause problems. We’d need a high quality center with no money and few assets. Plus, Randle no longer makes sense here. Do we let him walk? Do we try to move him for a center? I can’t imagine his trade value, especially in a S/T or expiring is that high.

[BlacJacMac]

In modern NBA you can get playmaking from any position. Even from bigman.

Sure. But that guy isn't on our roster either.

Sure, but you can kind of compensate lack of true PG. See TOR example from championship year. Gasol gave them some playmaking, Lowry and FVV were both comboguards, Kawai gave something.

Sure. So we still need to add high level playmakers.

[ILC]

Two years in a row the biggest obstacle for this team in the playoffs has been the lack of easy offense. They can get enough stops when they need to, but offense is poking your eyes out bad and it's because they have no one who can reliably touch the paint every possession down.

Kevin Durant can get some of the easiest offense in the league by himself

Not when the whole defense clamps down on him like the Wolves did two years ago on him and Booker. A starting level point guard is a MUST

[shrink]

Posting for the details regarding the trade they discussed

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I’m going to spare people from having to listen to big takes from Judd and Mackey, who don’t educate themselves on basketball, and just post what they remembered or Zach Lowe’s trade proposal to discuss.

MIN GETS: Kevin Durant, Nick Claxton
MIN SENDS: Julius Randle, Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham

PHX GETS: Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham
PHX GIVES: Kevin Durant

MIA GETS: Julius Randle
MIA GIVES: Duncan Robinson

BRK GETS: Duncan Robinson, picks
BRK GIVES: Nick Claxton

Then some Nickiel Alexander-Walker sign and trade for Lonzo Ball.

[Klomp]

Two years in a row the biggest obstacle for this team in the playoffs has been the lack of easy offense. They can get enough stops when they need to, but offense is poking your eyes out bad and it's because they have no one who can reliably touch the paint every possession down.

Kevin Durant can get some of the easiest offense in the league by himself

Not when the whole defense clamps down on him like the Wolves did two years ago on him and Booker. A starting level point guard is a MUST

Durant averaged 27 ppg on 55/42/82 splits in that series. He was not the problem for Phoenix.

[minimus]

Sure. But that guy isn't on our roster either.

Sure, but you can kind of compensate lack of true PG. See TOR example from championship year. Gasol gave them some playmaking, Lowry and FVV were both comboguards, Kawai gave something.

Sure. So we still need to add high level playmakers.

Sure, one of them is KD. Another one could be Lonzo Ball or Tyus Jones type of low profile player. I feel like fans want high caliber PG like Garland which I would not expect.

[younggunsmn]

Posting for the details regarding the trade they discussed

Watch on YouTube

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I’m going to spare people from having to listen to big takes from Judd and Mackey, who don’t educate themselves on basketball, and just post what they remembered or Zach Lowe’s trade proposal to discuss.

MIN GETS: Kevin Durant, Nick Claxton Nikola Jovic
MIN SENDS: Julius Randle, Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham,

PHX GETS: Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham
PHX GIVES: Kevin Durant

MIA GETS: Julius Randle
MIA GIVES: Duncan Robinson Nikola Jovic, Kevin Love, Future 1st

BRK GETS: Duncan Robinson, Kevin Love, Future protected Miami 1st,
BRK GIVES: Nick Claxton

Then some Nickiel Alexander-Walker sign and trade for Lonzo Ball.

If the picks for Brooklyn are coming from Miami sign me up for this trade in a heartbeat.

I hadnt though of Claxton and dont know how available Brooklyn would make him but he's a perfect fit with his declining contract.
I would need to hold onto 17 to make that work, and with Brooklyn already owning 4 picks in this draft you would think it wouldnt be that appealing to them anyway.
I would even throw Brooklyn a '28 pickswap if necessary to seal the deal.

Miami needs to add a bit of outgoing salary to make this work so send either Kyle Anderson or Jovic+Kevin Love somewhere.
Send Jovic to us an see if FInch can work some magic.

I still think Phoenix throws up a little at having to take Gobert and it would be better to find a 4th/5th team for him.

We would be sending out 84.5 mil in the above deal and taking back 80 million, but filling 2 extra roster spots makes it a wash.
Letting Naz and NAW walk would allow us to probably use the 5.7 mil Taxpayer MLE to sign a 2nd PG and sneak under the 1st apron.

We could also help Brooklyn get some assets for using their capspace to facilitate a Naz Reid sign and trade by eating a contract, which could be roped into this deal.

Would leave us awful thin at guard though.


Conley, Tyus Jones (MLE)
Edwards, Shannon
McDaniels, Clark
Durant, Jovic, Miller
Claxton, Garza, 31st pick
17th pick

[younggunsmn]

Honestly though with Connelly's recent history I'm ready to wake up any day now to the news that TC traded for Durant and included 17,31, '28 pickswap, Dillingham, and TJ Shannon.

[Klomp]

Sure, but you can kind of compensate lack of true PG. See TOR example from championship year. Gasol gave them some playmaking, Lowry and FVV were both comboguards, Kawai gave something.

Sure. So we still need to add high level playmakers.

Sure, one of them is KD. Another one could be Lonzo Ball or Tyus Jones type of low profile player. I feel like fans want high caliber PG like Garland which I would not expect.

I don't understand why people just don't consider one of the greatest players of all-time a playmaker. He has 8 career seasons with at least 5.0 apg in 17 seasons. I don't think anyone would quibble about considering Kevin Garnett a playmaker and he only recorded 6 such seasons in a 22-year career.

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[Klomp]

Honestly though with Connelly's recent history I'm ready to wake up any day now to the news that TC traded for Durant and included 17,31, '28 pickswap, Dillingham, and TJ Shannon.

So you'd be mad about trading for a 28 ppg scorer without giving up a single rotation player?

[younggunsmn]

Honestly though with Connelly's recent history I'm ready to wake up any day now to the news that TC traded for Durant and included 17,31, '28 pickswap, Dillingham, and TJ Shannon.

So you'd be mad about trading for a 28 ppg scorer without giving up a single rotation player?

Um thats pretty much every single cheap young asset we will have for the next 7 years for a 37 year old.
Or what you call a TIm Connelly special.

I'd be mad if we traded for Durant and one or both of Randle/Gobert DIDNT go out the door for him.
Getting rid of them is a key PERK of the trade for me.

[Klomp]

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Even at his age, he's a better player than Randle...

[TimberKat]

If we have to include JMcD in KD trade, what other return would make it worth it? How about Suns throw in Ryan Dunn? Maybe add TyTy Washington . In this scenario, we would do a sign and trade of Randle or Naz and keep one of them. Actually Keep both works too.

I really want to see Gobert, KD, Ant in the same lineup - this is what Gobert, Towns, and Ant meant to look like

[jpatrick]

Honestly though with Connelly's recent history I'm ready to wake up any day now to the news that TC traded for Durant and included 17,31, '28 pickswap, Dillingham, and TJ Shannon.

So you'd be mad about trading for a 28 ppg scorer without giving up a single rotation player?

The problem is that we have to send out rotational pieces to reach the right salary. The fear is that we send out Gobert and/or Randle, DDV, Dillingham, and then a bunch of the stuff on top of that. Some combination of 17, 31, TSJ, 28 swap, Miller, Clark, etc.

I don’t mind Randle, DDV, Dillingham, which is essentially equivalent to what we have up for late 20s KAT. I don’t want to give up more for a 37 year old Durant that we’re going to have to extend in a contract at or more than KAT would get.

[TimberKat]

Honestly though with Connelly's recent history I'm ready to wake up any day now to the news that TC traded for Durant and included 17,31, '28 pickswap, Dillingham, and TJ Shannon.

So you'd be mad about trading for a 28 ppg scorer without giving up a single rotation player?

Um thats pretty much every single cheap young asset we will have for the next 7 years for a 37 year old.
Or what you call a TIm Connelly special.

I'd be mad if we traded for Durant and one or both of Randle/Gobert DIDNT go out the door for him.
Getting rid of them is a key PERK of the trade for me.

Why do we want cheap young assets when we are going from conference finals to NBA finals? You can also trade Ant for 6#1s and rebuild.

[winforlose]

So you'd be mad about trading for a 28 ppg scorer without giving up a single rotation player?

Um thats pretty much every single cheap young asset we will have for the next 7 years for a 37 year old.
Or what you call a TIm Connelly special.

I'd be mad if we traded for Durant and one or both of Randle/Gobert DIDNT go out the door for him.
Getting rid of them is a key PERK of the trade for me.

Why do we want cheap young assets when we are going from conference finals to NBA finals? You can also trade Ant for 6#1s and rebuild.

What if KD leaves next year. We lose whatever we sent out, we still have enough salary on the books to make it hard to add more, and we are not a contender anymore. This is how good teams like the Suns turn into disasters, like the Suns. TC already made one very bad trade sending Karl out, (a trade which turned the Rudy trade from valuable to terrible instantly,) and now you want him to make another that almost certainly loses Ant in 2 or 3 years.

You know why Dlo for Mike at that price was offered to us? It was because Mike’s salary slot was a dead end and we would struggle to add a starting PG. We are at the same spot now with KD, and that dead end is fatal to the Ant contention window.