2024 Free Agency

[Shaka_Zulu]

So, I assume TC will keep 15th roster spot open. Unless someone like Gordon Hayward or Saddiq Bey agrees to sign for vetmin.

Saddiq Bey is with Hawks and will be out injured rest of the year.
But even if he is washed, Hayward on minimum would be big get. And completion of our Utah Jazz pack lol

Hmmm, I thought Bey is UFA... Hayward ego scares me, I want a 9-10th player in rotation to be low profile, high impact player

Just checked, I thought they picked up the option but Hawks declined his qualifying 8.5m offer 5 days ago. So he is UFA. But Bey has torn his ACL so he is not viable option for that.


Hayward goes from 30m a year to minimum should be enough humbling experience for him, if we were to sign him. And he seems low profile former star type, even if he prolly would want some minutes. OKC didn't give him any in playoffs and he was peeved about it.

[Guest84]

Came across this article but definitely don't see it happening

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/could-ricky-rubio-return-to-minnesota-timberwolves/ar-BB1ppzXM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2e9abeb7ed4742f2913836945e245baf&ei=11

[Sealab2024]

Came across this article but definitely don't see it happening

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/could-ricky-rubio-return-to-minnesota-timberwolves/ar-BB1ppzXM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2e9abeb7ed4742f2913836945e245baf&ei=11

2nd unit

NAW
Shannon/Naz/miller
Naz/Kat
Rubio
Dillingham

Yes, please.

[jpatrick]

Came across this article but definitely don't see it happening

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/could-ricky-rubio-return-to-minnesota-timberwolves/ar-BB1ppzXM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2e9abeb7ed4742f2913836945e245baf&ei=11

I have no idea if he’s been working out at all. I thought he had officially retired. But if he wanted to come back with no guarantee of minutes, I’d 100% sign him to a vet minimum.

#MinnesotaJazz

[Battletrigger]

Rubio retired from NBA last year an player for Barcelona with no success. He has not been the same since his mental health issues, it's a waste of money and slot.

[minimus]

Please no. And I am saying this as big Rubio fan.

[frankenwolf]

17.2 MPG, 4.4/2.1/3. Is that level of production more valuable than just giving Miller some run or Minott? Yes he can pass and floor space, but can he defend? If that is what you’re getting for production, and he cannot defend, what the **** are we talking about here? I would expect more out of Luka Garza in those minutes. He may not be able to guard his mom, but he can least get buckets.

A) what makes you think Miller or Minott WON'T get run before Jingles?
B) What the **** do you expect for vet minimum? The Wolves had to have 14 players, so they got Jingles. Have some faith W4L

[jscott]

Rubio retired from NBA last year an player for Barcelona with no success. He has not been the same since his mental health issues...

That’s too bad. I knew the loss of his mother hit him hard. I wish nothing but the best for him and his mental health going forward.

[minimus]

Saddiq Bey is with Hawks and will be out injured rest of the year.
But even if he is washed, Hayward on minimum would be big get. And completion of our Utah Jazz pack lol

Hmmm, I thought Bey is UFA... Hayward ego scares me, I want a 9-10th player in rotation to be low profile, high impact player

Just checked, I thought they picked up the option but Hawks declined his qualifying 8.5m offer 5 days ago. So he is UFA. But Bey has torn his ACL so he is not viable option for that.


Hayward goes from 30m a year to minimum should be enough humbling experience for him, if we were to sign him. And he seems low profile former star type, even if he prolly would want some minutes. OKC didn't give him any in playoffs and he was peeved about it.

Hayward was not happy in OKC. At this point I would rather bring back RoCo

[Nick K]

Minutes and role.

So as far as you can see both of them will clearly get more run with the Bucks than we could have offered. I will take your word for it. Thanks.

My personal opinion, yes.

I think going into the offseason, 7 spots were set for a team that typically runs an 8.5-man rotation (0.5 meaning the player will get minutes in the first half, but maybe not in the second half). I think Dillingham was clearly brought in to be the 8th man this year. The 0.5 will probably be Ingles to start the year, unless one of Shannon, Minott, Miller, Dozier beats him out.

That 2nd unit will be interesting. I'd like to see:

Dilly
NAW
Ingles
Reid
Rudy, Kat, maybe even Luka

I like having one vet big with that 2nd unit.

[Nick K]

Came across this article but definitely don't see it happening

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/could-ricky-rubio-return-to-minnesota-timberwolves/ar-BB1ppzXM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2e9abeb7ed4742f2913836945e245baf&ei=11

That is not going to happen. Ricky is done.

[Nick K]

Please no. And I am saying this as big Rubio fan.

Yep. We all love Ricky but it's all over for him.

[Norseman79]

So as far as you can see both of them will clearly get more run with the Bucks than we could have offered. I will take your word for it. Thanks.

My personal opinion, yes.

I think going into the offseason, 7 spots were set for a team that typically runs an 8.5-man rotation (0.5 meaning the player will get minutes in the first half, but maybe not in the second half). I think Dillingham was clearly brought in to be the 8th man this year. The 0.5 will probably be Ingles to start the year, unless one of Shannon, Minott, Miller, Dozier beats him out.

That 2nd unit will be interesting. I'd like to see:

Dilly
NAW
Ingles
Reid
Rudy, Kat, maybe even Luka

I like having one vet big with that 2nd unit.

Was kind of hoping they might sign one....

[winforlose]

17.2 MPG, 4.4/2.1/3. Is that level of production more valuable than just giving Miller some run or Minott? Yes he can pass and floor space, but can he defend? If that is what you’re getting for production, and he cannot defend, what the **** are we talking about here? I would expect more out of Luka Garza in those minutes. He may not be able to guard his mom, but he can least get buckets.

A) what makes you think Miller or Minott WON'T get run before Jingles?
B) What the **** do you expect for vet minimum? The Wolves had to have 14 players, so they got Jingles. Have some faith W4L

Jingles is not bad selection if better talent isn’t still on the board for the minimum. Beasley is a better movement shooter, probably better at defense (not saying much honestly,) can handle a higher minute load, and knows some of the guys (chemistry.) Not saying he and TC would be bosom buddies or anything, but MB is not exactly in high demand these days, or grabbing huge bags. Also, I would be much more okay with Jingles if we had signed someone other than Garza before it happened. Garza feels more like a mascot than NBA player. I get that Finch loves the guy, but that doesn’t make him the best available backup 5 for the money. When you start adding in guys like RD and Jingles who cannot defend, you need guys who can defend behind them. If Rudy goes down and Garza plays backup 5 minutes that is RD, Jingles, and Garza potentially sharing the floor together. I have honest concerns about the roster construction, and that is before we address the PJ Dozier in the room.

[KGdaBom]

17.2 MPG, 4.4/2.1/3. Is that level of production more valuable than just giving Miller some run or Minott? Yes he can pass and floor space, but can he defend? If that is what you’re getting for production, and he cannot defend, what the **** are we talking about here? I would expect more out of Luka Garza in those minutes. He may not be able to guard his mom, but he can least get buckets.

A) what makes you think Miller or Minott WON'T get run before Jingles?
B) What the **** do you expect for vet minimum? The Wolves had to have 14 players, so they got Jingles. Have some faith W4L

Jingles is not bad selection if better talent isn’t still on the board for the minimum. Beasley is a better movement shooter, probably better at defense (not saying much honestly,) can handle a higher minute load, and knows some of the guys (chemistry.) Not saying he and TC would be bosom buddies or anything, but MB is not exactly in high demand these days, or grabbing huge bags. Also, I would be much more okay with Jingles if we had signed someone other than Garza before it happened. Garza feels more like a mascot than NBA player. I get that Finch loves the guy, but that doesn’t make him the best available backup 5 for the money. When you start adding in guys like RD and Jingles who cannot defend, you need guys who can defend behind them. If Rudy goes down and Garza plays backup 5 minutes that is RD, Jingles, and Garza potentially sharing the floor together. I have honest concerns about the roster construction, and that is before we address the PJ Dozier in the room.

I'll grant you that Dozier is a bit of a head scratcher, but I'll give Connelly the benefit of the doubt on that one. Garza is a good 12th man IMO. Zero problems with signing him.

[younggunsmn]

TC is determined to add high BBIQ supporting players, and Beasley is one of the dumbest players in the league.
Jingles is a much much better fit.

[winforlose]

TC is determined to add high BBIQ supporting players, and Beasley is one of the dumbest players in the league.
Jingles is a much much better fit.

I agree in part, but honestly it probably has less to IQ and more to do with character. TC talks about character a lot. Beasley’s legal issues and romantic drama showed questionable character at best. For that reason alone I think TC was unlikely to sign Beasley. But, from a basketball standpoint, Beasley is a movement shooter and a try hard on defense when he wants to be (not very good or even passable at defense, but a try hard,) whereas Jingles is just old and slow. If neither would play real minutes than TC would rather have Jingles on the bench and in the locker room. But this choice does have opportunity costs on a roster like ours.

[winforlose]

A) what makes you think Miller or Minott WON'T get run before Jingles?
B) What the **** do you expect for vet minimum? The Wolves had to have 14 players, so they got Jingles. Have some faith W4L

Jingles is not bad selection if better talent isn’t still on the board for the minimum. Beasley is a better movement shooter, probably better at defense (not saying much honestly,) can handle a higher minute load, and knows some of the guys (chemistry.) Not saying he and TC would be bosom buddies or anything, but MB is not exactly in high demand these days, or grabbing huge bags. Also, I would be much more okay with Jingles if we had signed someone other than Garza before it happened. Garza feels more like a mascot than NBA player. I get that Finch loves the guy, but that doesn’t make him the best available backup 5 for the money. When you start adding in guys like RD and Jingles who cannot defend, you need guys who can defend behind them. If Rudy goes down and Garza plays backup 5 minutes that is RD, Jingles, and Garza potentially sharing the floor together. I have honest concerns about the roster construction, and that is before we address the PJ Dozier in the room.

I'll grant you that Dozier is a bit of a head scratcher, but I'll give Connelly the benefit of the doubt on that one. Garza is a good 12th man IMO. Zero problems with signing him.

We don’t know what percentage of PJ’s money is guaranteed. Might still be a change coming. As for Garza, we are at impasse territory. I think he has an NBA level offensive game, and a bad for the G defensive game. You get one bad defender per lineup and even that taxes the defense to the extreme. For Garza to take up that one spot, he better be Malik Beasley from deep or Karl off the dribble, or a monster at the rim. Luka doesn’t have that one top shelf skill and he lacks size for his position which hurts rebounding. There are better two ways than Luka Garza and certainly better minimum guys.

[KGdaBom]

Jingles is not bad selection if better talent isn’t still on the board for the minimum. Beasley is a better movement shooter, probably better at defense (not saying much honestly,) can handle a higher minute load, and knows some of the guys (chemistry.) Not saying he and TC would be bosom buddies or anything, but MB is not exactly in high demand these days, or grabbing huge bags. Also, I would be much more okay with Jingles if we had signed someone other than Garza before it happened. Garza feels more like a mascot than NBA player. I get that Finch loves the guy, but that doesn’t make him the best available backup 5 for the money. When you start adding in guys like RD and Jingles who cannot defend, you need guys who can defend behind them. If Rudy goes down and Garza plays backup 5 minutes that is RD, Jingles, and Garza potentially sharing the floor together. I have honest concerns about the roster construction, and that is before we address the PJ Dozier in the room.

I'll grant you that Dozier is a bit of a head scratcher, but I'll give Connelly the benefit of the doubt on that one. Garza is a good 12th man IMO. Zero problems with signing him.

We don’t know what percentage of PJ’s money is guaranteed. Might still be a change coming. As for Garza, we are at impasse territory. I think he has an NBA level offensive game, and a bad for the G defensive game. You get one bad defender per lineup and even that taxes the defense to the extreme. For Garza to take up that one spot, he better be Malik Beasley from deep or Karl off the dribble, or a monster at the rim. Luka doesn’t have that one top shelf skill and he lacks size for his position which hurts rebounding. There are better two ways than Luka Garza and certainly better minimum guys.

Luka doesn't have a good offensive game. He has a GREAT offensive game. He scored 30 or more PPG in the G with regularity. I will never agree with your hatred of Luka.

[winforlose]

I'll grant you that Dozier is a bit of a head scratcher, but I'll give Connelly the benefit of the doubt on that one. Garza is a good 12th man IMO. Zero problems with signing him.

We don’t know what percentage of PJ’s money is guaranteed. Might still be a change coming. As for Garza, we are at impasse territory. I think he has an NBA level offensive game, and a bad for the G defensive game. You get one bad defender per lineup and even that taxes the defense to the extreme. For Garza to take up that one spot, he better be Malik Beasley from deep or Karl off the dribble, or a monster at the rim. Luka doesn’t have that one top shelf skill and he lacks size for his position which hurts rebounding. There are better two ways than Luka Garza and certainly better minimum guys.

Luka doesn't have a good offensive game. He has a GREAT offensive game. He scored 30 or more PPG in the G with regularity. I will never agree with your hatred of Luka.

Why is it hatred if I think he cannot play at the NBA level? I even said he has an NBA offense. As for scoring 30 in the G, that is what is expected of someone who wants to play in the NBA. Guys who put up bad numbers in the G don’t get anywhere in the NBA. Luka was too good for G but not good enough for the NBA. I have no objection to him as a person or grudge against him professionally, I just don’t want him on this team.