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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#481 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:20 am

Jedzz wrote:Whoever runs the transactions page here had their work cut out for them in January/Februrary. https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Minnesota-Timberwolves/17/Transaction-History

If it wasn't bad enough in January with Nowell/Reid getting recalled and sent down every other day all month, then came February's moves, trades, and Gleague transactions.

The gleague coaches must be having a laugh over all this.

That doesn't even list the two-ways....

But that's becoming life in the current NBA. Maybe it's a little worse here, but I think you'd be surprised how common it is. Look at the Heat with Silva and Okpala, for example.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#482 » by minimus » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:50 am

I hope once Evan Turner situation will be resolved (hopefully with successful buyout) we will see Spellman and Vanderbilt with main team
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Post#483 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:26 am

minimus wrote:I hope once Evan Turner situation will be resolved (hopefully with successful buyout) we will see Spellman and Vanderbilt with main team

Unlikely. Turner hasn't even been with the team since the trade, yet Spellman and Vanderbilt are still in Iowa.

It's about having bodies in front of them in the rotation. Spellman isn't going to play ahead of Towns, Johnson and Reid, while Vanderbilt isn't going to play ahead of Hernangomez, Johnson and eventually Layman.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#484 » by minimus » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:27 am

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minimus wrote:I hope once Evan Turner situation will be resolved (hopefully with successful buyout) we will see Spellman and Vanderbilt with main team

Unlikely. Turner hasn't even been with the team since the trade, yet Spellman and Vanderbilt are still in Iowa.

It's about having bodies in front of them in the rotation. Spellman isn't going to play ahead of Towns, Johnson and Reid, while Vanderbilt isn't going to play ahead of Hernangomez, Johnson and eventually Layman.


I am afraid that KAT will miss more than expected 2 weeks. :(
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#485 » by KGdaBom » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:28 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:Vanderbilt numbers don't add up. 6 FGs 0-3s 2FTs is 14 points.

Hmmmm that's a good point. Thanks, G League....

Quick search through the box score, it appears they didn't separate the two FTs on either trip to the line and that he actually was 4-4. It was marked as "FT good (2 pts)" for one trip, so it looks like he went 1-1 when the program is scanning the play-by-play, but he actually was 2-2 on each trip.

Isn't the NBA looking into one 2pt FT? If so maybe they are experimenting with it in G League and he really was 2-2, but good for 4 points?
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#486 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:14 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Isn't the NBA looking into one 2pt XP? If so maybe they are experimenting with it in G League and he really was 2-2, but good for 4 points?

Oh yeah, that's right....
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#487 » by KGdaBom » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:17 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:Isn't the NBA looking into one 2pt FT? If so maybe they are experimenting with it in G League and he really was 2-2, but good for 4 points?

Oh yeah, that's right....

So are they using the 2 point FT in the G League?
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#488 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:41 pm

Under the new experimental NBA G League rule, one free throw worth one, two or three points will be awarded in the event of any foul that would typically result in one, two or three free throws being shot under standard NBA rules. The experimental free throw rule will not apply during the last two minutes of the fourth quarter or the entirety of any overtime period.

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/09/26/g-league-experiment-free-throw-rule-official-release
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#489 » by KGdaBom » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:45 pm

Klomp wrote:Under the new experimental NBA G League rule, one free throw worth one, two or three points will be awarded in the event of any foul that would typically result in one, two or three free throws being shot under standard NBA rules. The experimental free throw rule will not apply during the last two minutes of the fourth quarter or the entirety of any overtime period.

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/09/26/g-league-experiment-free-throw-rule-official-release

Thanks for the update. I like the exception for last two minutes as sometimes a team wants to make the first and miss the second. Tht kind of thing.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#490 » by SO_MONEY » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:22 pm

Klomp wrote:Under the new experimental NBA G League rule, one free throw worth one, two or three points will be awarded in the event of any foul that would typically result in one, two or three free throws being shot under standard NBA rules. The experimental free throw rule will not apply during the last two minutes of the fourth quarter or the entirety of any overtime period.

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/09/26/g-league-experiment-free-throw-rule-official-release


Moronic as far as I am concerned. It will just make bad FT shooters even less valuable as I THINK (just an unscientific observation) they tend to miss their first attempt more often.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#491 » by Klomp » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:33 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
Klomp wrote:Under the new experimental NBA G League rule, one free throw worth one, two or three points will be awarded in the event of any foul that would typically result in one, two or three free throws being shot under standard NBA rules. The experimental free throw rule will not apply during the last two minutes of the fourth quarter or the entirety of any overtime period.

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/09/26/g-league-experiment-free-throw-rule-official-release


Moronic as far as I am concerned. It will just make bad FT shooters even less valuable as I THINK (just an unscientific observation) they tend to miss their first attempt more often.

I think it's just one way they're trying to speed up the game, though we're only talking 15-30 seconds each trip.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#492 » by SO_MONEY » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:41 pm

Klomp wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
Klomp wrote:Under the new experimental NBA G League rule, one free throw worth one, two or three points will be awarded in the event of any foul that would typically result in one, two or three free throws being shot under standard NBA rules. The experimental free throw rule will not apply during the last two minutes of the fourth quarter or the entirety of any overtime period.

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/09/26/g-league-experiment-free-throw-rule-official-release


Moronic as far as I am concerned. It will just make bad FT shooters even less valuable as I THINK (just an unscientific observation) they tend to miss their first attempt more often.

I think it's just one way they're trying to speed up the game, though we're only talking 15-30 seconds each trip.


They don't need to speed up a 2 1/2 hour game. Not only is it bad business it is trying to fix something that isn't broken.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#493 » by KGdaBom » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:09 pm

Klomp wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
Klomp wrote:Under the new experimental NBA G League rule, one free throw worth one, two or three points will be awarded in the event of any foul that would typically result in one, two or three free throws being shot under standard NBA rules. The experimental free throw rule will not apply during the last two minutes of the fourth quarter or the entirety of any overtime period.

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/09/26/g-league-experiment-free-throw-rule-official-release


Moronic as far as I am concerned. It will just make bad FT shooters even less valuable as I THINK (just an unscientific observation) they tend to miss their first attempt more often.

I think it's just one way they're trying to speed up the game, though we're only talking 15-30 seconds each trip.

Lots of free throws are shot in a basketball game. 1 FT per trip will speed up the game a lot.
I actually suggested it in a post here I think a few years ago.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#494 » by SO_MONEY » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:46 pm

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Klomp wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
Moronic as far as I am concerned. It will just make bad FT shooters even less valuable as I THINK (just an unscientific observation) they tend to miss their first attempt more often.

I think it's just one way they're trying to speed up the game, though we're only talking 15-30 seconds each trip.

Lots of free throws are shot in a basketball game. 1 FT per trip will speed up the game a lot.
I actually suggested it in a post here I think a few years ago.


Again, you don't need to speed up a 2 1/2 hour game. It is moronic. It devalues good FT shooters and costs revenue.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#495 » by KGdaBom » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:02 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:I think it's just one way they're trying to speed up the game, though we're only talking 15-30 seconds each trip.

Lots of free throws are shot in a basketball game. 1 FT per trip will speed up the game a lot.
I actually suggested it in a post here I think a few years ago.


Again, you don't need to speed up a 2 1/2 hour game. It is moronic. It devalues good FT shooters and costs revenue.

I agree that basketball games aren't too long, but FT shooting is boring. One FT with higher stakes doesn't devalue anything. It actually makes the FT more exciting because more is riding on it.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#496 » by Jedzz » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:54 am

KGdaBom wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Lots of free throws are shot in a basketball game. 1 FT per trip will speed up the game a lot.
I actually suggested it in a post here I think a few years ago.


Again, you don't need to speed up a 2 1/2 hour game. It is moronic. It devalues good FT shooters and costs revenue.

I agree that basketball games aren't too long, but FT shooting is boring. One FT with higher stakes doesn't devalue anything. It actually makes the FT more exciting because more is riding on it.


Sound reasoning. But you aren't taking account of the refs just calling more fouls in order to help the stars continually build better scoring outputs.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#497 » by KGdaBom » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:57 am

Jedzz wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
Again, you don't need to speed up a 2 1/2 hour game. It is moronic. It devalues good FT shooters and costs revenue.

I agree that basketball games aren't too long, but FT shooting is boring. One FT with higher stakes doesn't devalue anything. It actually makes the FT more exciting because more is riding on it.


Sound reasoning. But you aren't taking account of the refs just calling more fouls in order to help the stars continually build better scoring outputs.

There's no need to call more fouls. The stars will score the same amount of points whether the FTs are traditional or the high stakes FTs.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#498 » by Jedzz » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:01 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I agree that basketball games aren't too long, but FT shooting is boring. One FT with higher stakes doesn't devalue anything. It actually makes the FT more exciting because more is riding on it.


Sound reasoning. But you aren't taking account of the refs just calling more fouls in order to help the stars continually build better scoring outputs.

There's no need to call more fouls. The stars will score the same amount of points whether the FTs are traditional or the high stakes FTs.


No. Not if they don't get two free shots so often. So the number of singles will need to increase in order for Harden to get his 50s and such, for example.

Can't have superstar power if none of them can score over 25. Unless your name is Derrick Rose who can reach 50 with only 3 threes and 4 FTs.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#499 » by KGdaBom » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:05 am

Jedzz wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Sound reasoning. But you aren't taking account of the refs just calling more fouls in order to help the stars continually build better scoring outputs.

There's no need to call more fouls. The stars will score the same amount of points whether the FTs are traditional or the high stakes FTs.


No. Not if they don't get two free shots so often. So the number of singles will need to increase in order for Harden to get his 50s and such, for example.

Can't have superstar power if none of them can score over 25. Unless your name is Derrick Rose who can reach 50 with only 3 threes and 4 FTs.

Jedzz if Harden only gets one FT when fouled shooting a 3 but that one FT is worth 3 points he's going to score his 3 points.
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Re: Iowa Wolves/G League talk 

Post#500 » by Jedzz » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:20 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:There's no need to call more fouls. The stars will score the same amount of points whether the FTs are traditional or the high stakes FTs.


No. Not if they don't get two free shots so often. So the number of singles will need to increase in order for Harden to get his 50s and such, for example.

Can't have superstar power if none of them can score over 25. Unless your name is Derrick Rose who can reach 50 with only 3 threes and 4 FTs.

Jedzz if Harden only gets one FT when fouled shooting a 3 but that one FT is worth 3 points he's going to score his 3 points.
Oh, didn't realize the FT was gonig to be worth 3. Excuse me for not paying attention to the details of your discussion. Watching a better game.

In that case you are correct sir.

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