Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell

[MN7725]

Other teams are also aware of the contracts our players have, and what we are trying to do. Why would they go out of their way to help us?

bingo

Teague on 1 yr deal might be attractive alternative to some teams compared to what is in FA PGs, but other teams know Wolves are fairly "stuck" if they can't move him

[Takingbaconback]

Other teams are also aware of the contracts our players have, and what we are trying to do. Why would they go out of their way to help us? If we want to move Dieng, it could cost Okogie (just an example). If you aren't willing to give up Okoge, then you are stuck with Dieng and can't complain about it. That can be said for each of the contracts that people want to be moved.

If you look at how Wizards traded for Bonga, Wagner, and Jones for Lakers to get space for max contract, it doesn't seem like teams are concerned with helping other teams if they see it positively for them. Dieng and unprotected first to a team far from contention and an unappealing FA destination (which seems like there are many teams) is feasible as Dieng is an expiring contract next year

To get DLo though, they would have to do that with both dieng and teague

I was thinking Teague would be shipped separately. He's an expiring and he's a very useful player for contenders and non-contenders alike. Him off the bench is perfect for his skillset and non-contender can just push over their cap space to next year while adding a veteran presence and filling a spot. Feel like he would be a contract that would be moved later in FA as option C or D for many teams, but hopefully there is someone out there that feels resigned to get him sooner than later

[DaKid]

Again all of that exceeds the amount of value required to obtain DLo, none of that is going to happen. RoCo won't be involved either. Why do you want to overpay???????????????????????????????

So what exactly are you trading to bring back russell?

The outline is pretty clear and been speculated on by many sources. Teauge, KBD, other and/or 2nd or highly protected 1st to Team 3, TWO 2nds to the Nets, Russell to Minnesota. Something to that effect and that is enough from a modern historical perspective regarding S&Ts. So why do you want to overpay??????????????????????????

Teague's $19m and kbd's near $1.5m doesn't add up to enough outgoing salary. We don't have much else to add outside of okogie or s&t tyus jones. Maybe jaylen Nowell but Im not sure how that works. But we have no one else under contract

[Takingbaconback]

Other teams are also aware of the contracts our players have, and what we are trying to do. Why would they go out of their way to help us?

bingo

Teague on 1 yr deal might be attractive alternative to some teams compared to what is in FA PGs, but other teams know Wolves are fairly "stuck" if they can't move him

If the league doesn't care about opening up a max spot for the Lakers, I doubt they give a dam about helping the timberwolves lol

[SO_MONEY]

So what exactly are you trading to bring back russell?

The outline is pretty clear and been speculated on by many sources. Teauge, KBD, other and/or 2nd or highly protected 1st to Team 3, TWO 2nds to the Nets, Russell to Minnesota. Something to that effect and that is enough from a modern historical perspective regarding S&Ts. So why do you want to overpay??????????????????????????

Teague's $19m and kbd's near $1.5m doesn't add up to enough outgoing salary. We don't have much else to add outside of okogie or s&t tyus jones. Maybe jaylen Nowell but Im not sure how that works. But we have no one else under contract

It is going to have to be enough and frankly I suspect we know it is or we wouldn't have waived Reynolds. But Okogie is the other option. Teauge and Okogie to Team 3, Two 2nds to the Nets, Russell to MN. No matter how you cut it the deals are all similar and in no way would require a #6 pick to be shipped out. Additionally, there are variations with Wiggins to a Third team that might work as well. So why do you want to overpay??????????????????????

[Norseman79]

DLo is getting the max. The max for DLo is 27 mil per year. Brooklyn will not take salary back. If we take on DLo's max, we would need to she approx 27 mil in space, as our space is limited and we do have a roster to fill out. This is why other players that some people may not want to be moved might have to be included in order to create an opportunity for Dlo. At least, this is how I understand it, if I am wrong, then I apologize.

[DaKid]

If you look at how Wizards traded for Bonga, Wagner, and Jones for Lakers to get space for max contract, it doesn't seem like teams are concerned with helping other teams if they see it positively for them. Dieng and unprotected first to a team far from contention and an unappealing FA destination (which seems like there are many teams) is feasible as Dieng is an expiring contract next year

To get DLo though, they would have to do that with both dieng and teague

I was thinking Teague would be shipped separately. He's an expiring and he's a very useful player for contenders and non-contenders alike. Him off the bench is perfect for his skillset and non-contender can just push over their cap space to next year while adding a veteran presence and filling a spot. Feel like he would be a contract that would be moved later in FA as option C or D for many teams, but hopefully there is someone out there that feels resigned to get him sooner than later

If we can send them both in separate deals that would work but that is a big if. And, why would DLo wait for us if we can't guarantee that we can even make those moves since it all depends on other teams.

[DaKid]

DLo is getting the max. The max for DLo is 27 mil per year. Brooklyn will not take salary back. If we take on DLo's max, we would need to she approx 27 mil in space, as our space is limited and we do have a roster to fill out. This is why other players that some people may not want to be moved might have to be included in order to create an opportunity for Dlo. At least, this is how I understand it, if I am wrong, then I apologize.

If we get the nets to s&t Russell to us, we only need between $22m and $23m going out. Since Brooklyn won't take contracts back, a 3rd team has to take on our contracts going out.

[Norseman79]

DLo is getting the max. The max for DLo is 27 mil per year. Brooklyn will not take salary back. If we take on DLo's max, we would need to she approx 27 mil in space, as our space is limited and we do have a roster to fill out. This is why other players that some people may not want to be moved might have to be included in order to create an opportunity for Dlo. At least, this is how I understand it, if I am wrong, then I apologize.

If we s&t, we only need between $22m and $23m going out. Since Brooklyn won't take contracts back, a 3rd team has to take on our contracts going out.

Does that still leave us cap room to sign other free agents or fill out our roster though?

[DaKid]

DLo is getting the max. The max for DLo is 27 mil per year. Brooklyn will not take salary back. If we take on DLo's max, we would need to she approx 27 mil in space, as our space is limited and we do have a roster to fill out. This is why other players that some people may not want to be moved might have to be included in order to create an opportunity for Dlo. At least, this is how I understand it, if I am wrong, then I apologize.

If we s&t, we only need between $22m and $23m going out. Since Brooklyn won't take contracts back, a 3rd team has to take on our contracts going out.

Does that still leave us cap room to sign other free agents or fill out our roster though?

Not really unless we get under the cap and sign those free agents before we make the deal. We also have exceptions to use to fill out the roster

[SO_MONEY]

DLo is getting the max. The max for DLo is 27 mil per year. Brooklyn will not take salary back. If we take on DLo's max, we would need to she approx 27 mil in space, as our space is limited and we do have a roster to fill out. This is why other players that some people may not want to be moved might have to be included in order to create an opportunity for Dlo. At least, this is how I understand it, if I am wrong, then I apologize.

If we s&t, we only need between $22m and $23m going out. Since Brooklyn won't take contracts back, a 3rd team has to take on our contracts going out.

Does that still leave us cap room to sign other free agents or fill out our roster though?

This way we keep our MLE because we didn't drop below the cap. No cap room. And I am not sure Russell gets the MAX, close, but not the full 27 million.

[Takingbaconback]

To get DLo though, they would have to do that with both dieng and teague

I was thinking Teague would be shipped separately. He's an expiring and he's a very useful player for contenders and non-contenders alike. Him off the bench is perfect for his skillset and non-contender can just push over their cap space to next year while adding a veteran presence and filling a spot. Feel like he would be a contract that would be moved later in FA as option C or D for many teams, but hopefully there is someone out there that feels resigned to get him sooner than later

If we can send them both in separate deals that would work but that is a big if. And, why would DLo wait for us if we can't guarantee that we can even make those moves since it all depends on other teams.

Yeah it seems unlikely. Would be cool to see Wiggins traded instead. Teague can still be moved for more cap space and asset if need be or just run the second unit. Then we can possibly dump Dieng next year or let him go for cap space. Even if Wolves can't get DLo, it seems like there is some light ahead with enormous flexibility and chance for new FO to reconstruct the roster

[DaKid]

If we s&t, we only need between $22m and $23m going out. Since Brooklyn won't take contracts back, a 3rd team has to take on our contracts going out.

Does that still leave us cap room to sign other free agents or fill out our roster though?

This way we keep our MLE because we didn't drop below the cap. No cap room. And I am not sure Russell gets the MAX, close, but not the full 27 million.

It sounds like we would give him the max.

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[DaKid]

I was thinking Teague would be shipped separately. He's an expiring and he's a very useful player for contenders and non-contenders alike. Him off the bench is perfect for his skillset and non-contender can just push over their cap space to next year while adding a veteran presence and filling a spot. Feel like he would be a contract that would be moved later in FA as option C or D for many teams, but hopefully there is someone out there that feels resigned to get him sooner than later

If we can send them both in separate deals that would work but that is a big if. And, why would DLo wait for us if we can't guarantee that we can even make those moves since it all depends on other teams.

Yeah it seems unlikely. Would be cool to see Wiggins traded instead. Teague can still be moved for more cap space and asset if need be or just run the second unit. Then we can possibly dump Dieng next year or let him go for cap space. Even if Wolves can't get DLo, it seems like there is some light ahead with enormous flexibility and chance for new FO to reconstruct the roster

I would rather see what towns, Wiggins and DLo can do. At least for a year

[Norseman79]

If we s&t, we only need between $22m and $23m going out. Since Brooklyn won't take contracts back, a 3rd team has to take on our contracts going out.

Does that still leave us cap room to sign other free agents or fill out our roster though?

This way we keep our MLE because we didn't drop below the cap. No cap room. And I am not sure Russell gets the MAX, close, but not the full 27 million.

Oh, I am pretty sure he is getting the max.

[SO_MONEY]

Does that still leave us cap room to sign other free agents or fill out our roster though?

This way we keep our MLE because we didn't drop below the cap. No cap room. And I am not sure Russell gets the MAX, close, but not the full 27 million.

It sounds like we would give him the max.

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Or they are making assumptions he will get the max. The reality is we can clear enough to make a competitive offer up to the max. That doesn't mean he is getting it. Windy predicted he will get about 20 million. Just saying...

[SO_MONEY]

Does that still leave us cap room to sign other free agents or fill out our roster though?

This way we keep our MLE because we didn't drop below the cap. No cap room. And I am not sure Russell gets the MAX, close, but not the full 27 million.

Oh, I am pretty sure he is getting the max.

Yet some professionals disagree with you.

[DaKid]

This way we keep our MLE because we didn't drop below the cap. No cap room. And I am not sure Russell gets the MAX, close, but not the full 27 million.

It sounds like we would give him the max.

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Or they are making assumptions he will get the max. The reality is we can clear enough to make a competitive offer up to the max. That doesn't mean he is getting it. Windy predicted he will get about 20 million. Just saying...

You're right but if DLo won't come here unless he gets the max, he will get the max. Otherwise towns will be pissed and Rosas doesn't want that.

[SO_MONEY]

It sounds like we would give him the max.

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Or they are making assumptions he will get the max. The reality is we can clear enough to make a competitive offer up to the max. That doesn't mean he is getting it. Windy predicted he will get about 20 million. Just saying...

You're right but if DLo won't come here unless he gets the max, he will get the max. Otherwise towns will be pissed and Rosas doesn't want that.

They/Rosas know what it will take to get him, we don't.

[DaKid]

Or they are making assumptions he will get the max. The reality is we can clear enough to make a competitive offer up to the max. That doesn't mean he is getting it. Windy predicted he will get about 20 million. Just saying...

You're right but if DLo won't come here unless he gets the max, he will get the max. Otherwise towns will be pissed and Rosas doesn't want that.

They/Rosas know what it will take to get him, we don't.

Exactly