The Rob Dillingham Thread

[winforlose]

My brother just sent me this. I’m not gonna lie, it shocked me. But you know what… it was a pleasant surprise . Enjoy .

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[cmoss84]

Sweet Kentucky whiskey...

[PerkinsFor3]

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The critique of RD’s role in the Wolves' summer league seems to misunderstand his potential and how his skills can fit into the team's needs. The expectation is for RD to be an instant offense scorer who can create rim pressure, drive and kick, and make perimeter jump shots. However, this view overlooks RD’s true value as a facilitator who can manage the game, initiate the offense, and force defenses into rotation, which are crucial skills the Wolves need behind Ant and Conley.

RD's scouting report highlights his potential as a three-level scorer, but realistically, becoming an elite scorer akin to Ant is unlikely and not essential. Instead, the Wolves need someone who can consistently create offensive advantages and force defensive rotations, a role RD can fulfill. This doesn't require RD to be a top-tier shot creator or a primary rim attacker but rather a player who can manage the game, control pace, and make smart decisions.

Without Conley, the Wolves lack a player who can effectively manage the offense, and RD's skills can fill this gap. RD’s ability to manage the game, handle the ball under pressure, and make correct decisions in ball-screen scenarios indicates he’s more mature and NBA-ready than typically expected of a 19-year-old. His ability to maintain dribble, process defenses, and make the right passes creates space and opportunities, crucial for the Wolves' second unit.

Despite concerns about his shooting and physicality, RD's presence on the court forces defenses to respect his perimeter threat, creating space and offensive opportunities. His off-ball movement, shot gravity, and decision-making skills can significantly enhance the Wolves' offensive dynamics. RD's game, which emphasizes initiating action, creating rotations, and making smart plays, shows he’s prepared to contribute effectively from day one.

In conclusion, RD's role should be seen through the lens of his ability to manage the game and create advantages rather than focusing solely on his scoring. His skills align well with what the Wolves need to improve their offensive consistency and efficiency, making him a valuable asset in their rotation.

[thinktank]

My brother just sent me this. I’m not gonna lie, it shocked me. But you know what… it was a pleasant surprise . Enjoy .

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"I'm not seeing PG skills from Dillingham this summer league."

Anybody who made that argument has an issue within themselves.

[winforlose]

My brother just sent me this. I’m not gonna lie, it shocked me. But you know what… it was a pleasant surprise . Enjoy .

Read on Twitter

"I'm not seeing PG skills from Dillingham this summer league."

Anybody who made that argument has an issue within themselves.

1. Despite quoting me I assume this wasn’t directed at me.

2. The last game really helped with the 25/12, but regardless it is great to see it.

[thinktank]

My brother just sent me this. I’m not gonna lie, it shocked me. But you know what… it was a pleasant surprise . Enjoy .

Read on Twitter

"I'm not seeing PG skills from Dillingham this summer league."

Anybody who made that argument has an issue within themselves.

1. Despite quoting me I assume this wasn’t directed at me.

2. The last game really helped with the 25/12, but regardless it is great to see it.

You don’t top that rookie list with one good game!

[winforlose]

"I'm not seeing PG skills from Dillingham this summer league."

Anybody who made that argument has an issue within themselves.

1. Despite quoting me I assume this wasn’t directed at me.

2. The last game really helped with the 25/12, but regardless it is great to see it.

You don’t top that rookie list with one good game!

True, but if it accounts for 1/3 or more of all his stats it certainly helps. Either way, I already said I was pleasantly surprised.

[thinktank]

1. Despite quoting me I assume this wasn’t directed at me.

2. The last game really helped with the 25/12, but regardless it is great to see it.

You don’t top that rookie list with one good game!

True, but if it accounts for 1/3 or more of all his stats it certainly helps. Either way, I already said I was pleasantly surprised.

It didn’t account for 1/3 of his stats and even if it did, it counts as much as any other players good games. They don’t throw out players’ best games when they track the points created stat.

Your ability to be unbiased just plain sucks. Ie, YOU EXHIBIT BIAS and that gets in the way of your LEARNING.

[winforlose]

You don’t top that rookie list with one good game!

True, but if it accounts for 1/3 or more of all his stats it certainly helps. Either way, I already said I was pleasantly surprised.

It didn’t account for 1/3 of his stats and even if it did, it counts as much as any other players good games. They don’t throw out players’ best games when they track the points created stat.

Your ability to be unbiased just plain sucks. Ie, YOU EXHIBIT BIAS and that gets in the way of your LEARNING.

170 total points created. He scored 25 in the final game, that leaves 145. Now factor in 12 assists. The first assist was to Minott for a 3. Let’s be conservative and assume only 1 more assist was for a 3. 6 + 20 = 26. 26+ 25 = 51. 51/170 = .3 or 30%. 1/3 equals 33%. How is math biased?

As for how the final game differs from the other games, I will remind you the tournament was over and we were in the consolation round. Any UNBIASED assessment of the consolation round will examine the difference in depth of bench and competition level of the game.

I have repeatedly said I like his transition offense, I have acknowledged that his shot was not falling in Summer League but should be better in the NBA. Is it possible the one with a bias is you?

[KGdaBom]

True, but if it accounts for 1/3 or more of all his stats it certainly helps. Either way, I already said I was pleasantly surprised.

It didn’t account for 1/3 of his stats and even if it did, it counts as much as any other players good games. They don’t throw out players’ best games when they track the points created stat.

Your ability to be unbiased just plain sucks. Ie, YOU EXHIBIT BIAS and that gets in the way of your LEARNING.

170 total points created. He scored 25 in the final game, that leaves 145. Now factor in 12 assists. The first assist was to Minott for a 3. Let’s be conservative and assume only 1 more assist was for a 3. 6 + 20 = 26. 26+ 25 = 51. 51/170 = .3 or 30%. 1/3 equals 33%. How is math biased?

As for how the final game differs from the other games, I will remind you the tournament was over and we were in the consolation round. Any UNBIASED assessment of the consolation round will examine the difference in depth of bench and competition level of the game.

I have repeatedly said I like his transition offense, I have acknowledged that his shot was not falling in Summer League but should be better in the NBA. Is it possible the one with a bias is you?

W4L I give you credit for at least coming around a little bit from your doom and gloom talk. Think Tank hasn't recognized that yet. I only saw Dilly in that one SL game, but he showed me every skill needed to be a great facilitator and scorer. I'm psyched.

[winforlose]

It didn’t account for 1/3 of his stats and even if it did, it counts as much as any other players good games. They don’t throw out players’ best games when they track the points created stat.

Your ability to be unbiased just plain sucks. Ie, YOU EXHIBIT BIAS and that gets in the way of your LEARNING.

170 total points created. He scored 25 in the final game, that leaves 145. Now factor in 12 assists. The first assist was to Minott for a 3. Let’s be conservative and assume only 1 more assist was for a 3. 6 + 20 = 26. 26+ 25 = 51. 51/170 = .3 or 30%. 1/3 equals 33%. How is math biased?

As for how the final game differs from the other games, I will remind you the tournament was over and we were in the consolation round. Any UNBIASED assessment of the consolation round will examine the difference in depth of bench and competition level of the game.

I have repeatedly said I like his transition offense, I have acknowledged that his shot was not falling in Summer League but should be better in the NBA. Is it possible the one with a bias is you?

W4L I give you credit for at least coming around a little bit from your doom and gloom talk. Think Tank hasn't recognized that yet. I only saw Dilly in that one SL game, but he showed me every skill needed to be a great facilitator and scorer. I'm psyched.

I always struggle with balancing my counseling training and my legal training when having a discussion. The counseling training tells me to accept the premise and respond in terms the person might grasp. The legal training tells me to reject the premise and correct the conversation. I will do both below.

1. I have not been doom and gloom. I have correctly pointed out that roster construction is important and that we are dangerously thin at PG. The people who say PG doesn’t matter are the same people who say let Ant or NAW bring it up. Then you listen to Finch saying we lost because we took the ball out of Mike’s hands and made bad decisions late in the game. Not to mention Ant frequently saying he does not want to play on ball because it makes him more of a facilitator and less of a threat. NAW proved he lacks the handle and BBIQ to properly run point, which is why when he plays with Ant he often goes off ball guard instead of on ball guard. We have a 37 year old starting PG, and an undersized rookie PG with a lot of uncertainty. But it’s okay because we have Jingles (the guy who struggled at PG in Orlando last year,) and Dozier (who wasn’t even in the league last year,) oh and Nix on a two way (the all time GOAT at pointing at people after dunks and looking stunned when something cool happens.) Bottom line, the level of risk is higher than I like, and I am not alone in this position.

2. I already said repeatedly I was pleasantly surprised by Dilly’s performance relative to others. He is good in transition and has strengths to his game. I don’t see why having some concerns about how he plays in the half court is biased. Either I am all in on him being an amazing PG, or I am a sour pus with a bias against him. There is a middle ground and together we can find it

[minimus]

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[BlacJacMac]

The people who say PG doesn’t matter are the same people who say let Ant or NAW bring it up.

Do people really say "PG doesn’t matter"? I'v e seen you respond a number of times telling people they think this, when its not what they were saying.

[winforlose]

The people who say PG doesn’t matter are the same people who say let Ant or NAW bring it up.

Do people really say "PG doesn’t matter"? I'v e seen you respond a number of times telling people they think this, when its not what they were saying.

Klomp said it recently. Or something to that effect. The idea of position less basketball and organized chaos rendering the traditional PG obsolete.

[KGdaBom]

170 total points created. He scored 25 in the final game, that leaves 145. Now factor in 12 assists. The first assist was to Minott for a 3. Let’s be conservative and assume only 1 more assist was for a 3. 6 + 20 = 26. 26+ 25 = 51. 51/170 = .3 or 30%. 1/3 equals 33%. How is math biased?

As for how the final game differs from the other games, I will remind you the tournament was over and we were in the consolation round. Any UNBIASED assessment of the consolation round will examine the difference in depth of bench and competition level of the game.

I have repeatedly said I like his transition offense, I have acknowledged that his shot was not falling in Summer League but should be better in the NBA. Is it possible the one with a bias is you?

W4L I give you credit for at least coming around a little bit from your doom and gloom talk. Think Tank hasn't recognized that yet. I only saw Dilly in that one SL game, but he showed me every skill needed to be a great facilitator and scorer. I'm psyched.

I always struggle with balancing my counseling training and my legal training when having a discussion. The counseling training tells me to accept the premise and respond in terms the person might grasp. The legal training tells me to reject the premise and correct the conversation. I will do both below.

1. I have not been doom and gloom. I have correctly pointed out that roster construction is important and that we are dangerously thin at PG. The people who say PG doesn’t matter are the same people who say let Ant or NAW bring it up. Then you listen to Finch saying we lost because we took the ball out of Mike’s hands and made bad decisions late in the game. Not to mention Ant frequently saying he does not want to play on ball because it makes him more of a facilitator and less of a threat. NAW proved he lacks the handle and BBIQ to properly run point, which is why when he plays with Ant he often goes off ball guard instead of on ball guard. We have a 37 year old starting PG, and an undersized rookie PG with a lot of uncertainty. But it’s okay because we have Jingles (the guy who struggled at PG in Orlando last year,) and Dozier (who wasn’t even in the league last year,) oh and Nix on a two way (the all time GOAT at pointing at people after dunks and looking stunned when something cool happens.) Bottom line, the level of risk is higher than I like, and I am not alone in this position.

2. I already said repeatedly I was pleasantly surprised by Dilly’s performance relative to others. He is good in transition and has strengths to his game. I don’t see why having some concerns about how he plays in the half court is biased. Either I am all in on him being an amazing PG, or I am a sour pus with a bias against him. There is a middle ground and together we can find it

1: Nobody says PG doesn't matter. You were hard core doom and gloom suggesting we should fire Connelly. We lost ball handling/facilitating in Kyle, Morris and McLaughlin. We more than replaced that ball handling/facilitating in Dilly alone. We are better at ball handling/facilitating than we were last season. None of those guys we lost were offensive threats. We gained two great offensive threats in Dilly and TJ. We will without question(assuming health) be better than last season. Now is not the time to be a Debbie Downer. Now is the time to be excited.

2: Yep considering how you wanted Dilly to spend the entire season in the G you have come a long way. His half court facilitating will be just fine. I give you my personal assurance of this. I expect Dilly to be first team all rookie. We will see how that turns out at the end of this season.

[BlacJacMac]

The people who say PG doesn’t matter are the same people who say let Ant or NAW bring it up.

Do people really say "PG doesn’t matter"? I'v e seen you respond a number of times telling people they think this, when its not what they were saying.

Klomp said it recently. Or something to that effect. The idea of position less basketball and organized chaos rendering the traditional PG obsolete.

I think you greatly exaggerate/misrepresent what he said. I remember it hitting me funny at the time, but I left it alone.

[minimus]

I use word ballhandler and/or decision maker. In defense it doesn't really matter as long as can defend his position, or you have players who can defend multiple positions.

[KGdaBom]

The people who say PG doesn’t matter are the same people who say let Ant or NAW bring it up.

Do people really say "PG doesn’t matter"? I'v e seen you respond a number of times telling people they think this, when its not what they were saying.

Klomp said it recently. Or something to that effect. The idea of position less basketball and organized chaos rendering the traditional PG obsolete.

He didn't say it doesn't matter. He may have said it's less important. Dilly will be a great offensive playmaker both scoring and facilitating so nothing to worry about.

[thinktank]

True, but if it accounts for 1/3 or more of all his stats it certainly helps. Either way, I already said I was pleasantly surprised.

It didn’t account for 1/3 of his stats and even if it did, it counts as much as any other players good games. They don’t throw out players’ best games when they track the points created stat.

Your ability to be unbiased just plain sucks. Ie, YOU EXHIBIT BIAS and that gets in the way of your LEARNING.

170 total points created. He scored 25 in the final game, that leaves 145. Now factor in 12 assists. The first assist was to Minott for a 3. Let’s be conservative and assume only 1 more assist was for a 3. 6 + 20 = 26. 26+ 25 = 51. 51/170 = .3 or 30%. 1/3 equals 33%. How is math biased?

As for how the final game differs from the other games, I will remind you the tournament was over and we were in the consolation round. Any UNBIASED assessment of the consolation round will examine the difference in depth of bench and competition level of the game.

I have repeatedly said I like his transition offense, I have acknowledged that his shot was not falling in Summer League but should be better in the NBA. Is it possible the one with a bias is you?

YOU DON’T IGNORE THE BEST GAME when you calculate ANY METRIC. You don’t ignore ANY game. THE END.

That is just your BIAS flaring up again.

You’re just making up arbitrary rules to discount the fact that he was THE BEST ROOKIE at creating points in SL.

Deal with it.

( A classy poster would deal with by admitting they were wrong about him not showing point guard skills when he was literally the best rookie PG in SL.

Why can’t you give him all the credit he deserves?

“Pleasantly surprised” )

[BlacJacMac]

It didn’t account for 1/3 of his stats and even if it did, it counts as much as any other players good games. They don’t throw out players’ best games when they track the points created stat.

Your ability to be unbiased just plain sucks. Ie, YOU EXHIBIT BIAS and that gets in the way of your LEARNING.

170 total points created. He scored 25 in the final game, that leaves 145. Now factor in 12 assists. The first assist was to Minott for a 3. Let’s be conservative and assume only 1 more assist was for a 3. 6 + 20 = 26. 26+ 25 = 51. 51/170 = .3 or 30%. 1/3 equals 33%. How is math biased?

As for how the final game differs from the other games, I will remind you the tournament was over and we were in the consolation round. Any UNBIASED assessment of the consolation round will examine the difference in depth of bench and competition level of the game.

I have repeatedly said I like his transition offense, I have acknowledged that his shot was not falling in Summer League but should be better in the NBA. Is it possible the one with a bias is you?

YOU DON’T IGNORE THE BEST GAME when you calculate ANY METRIC. You don’t ignore ANY game. THE END.

That is just your BIAS flaring up again.

You’re just making up arbitrary rules to discount the fact that he was THE BEST ROOKIE at creating points in SL.

Deal with it.

( A classy poster would deal with by admitting they were wrong about him not showing point guard skills when he was literally the best rookie PG in SL.

Why can’t you give him all the credit he deserves?

“Pleasantly surprised” )

Its like the people who say "If you take out his 75 yard TD run, he only averaged X.X yards for the game..."