2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59)

Post #501 » by **The J Rocka** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:04 am

[RCG] wrote:
Klomp wrote:I think I finally figured out a comparison for Victor Oladipo...

Avery Bradley

With much better size?

Bigger Bradley or Tony Allen with better scoring potential. Not a bad player, but he certainly won't be knocking down jumper after jumper when we need outside scoring.

AQuintus · Post #502 » by **AQuintus** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:18 am

Klomp wrote:Agreed. I'd rather have guys with flaws who work on their game (Love/Rubio) over uber-talented guys with no desire to get better (Beasley/Randolph/Milicic)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Post #503 » by **Klomp** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:31 am

[RCG] wrote:
Klomp wrote:I think I finally figured out a comparison for Victor Oladipo...

Avery Bradley

With much better size?

I don't think Oladipo is his listed 6'5" I think hes closer to 6'3" or 6'4"

Gideon · Post #504 » by **Gideon** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:04 am

I think when you have a high lotto pick you have to try to hit a home run. We have another thread asking how we can find a star or potential star... well, this is the best way. It would be pretty disappointing to me if we didn't really go for it with this opportunity, as this may be the last high lotto pick this team has for a while. Whether we pick a star or a role player here could be the difference between a few years of making the conference semis when our core matures/peaks and winning a championship or two.

You can always find role-players to fill needs. Shooting is a need, and we're especially weak at SG/SF, but that doesn't mean we have to draft one if a better player is available. Budinger will make a big difference for us in that department if we sign him for next season, Morrow should be available... there are lots of other guys. We can take care of that without having to draft solely for need.

I have nothing against Oladipo, and if we end up with the 6th or 7th pick or whatever and can't move up and certain guys are off the board... fine. I think he'll be a good player in this league, but nobody seems to feel he really has star potential.

Why not shoot for the moon and draft Noel? If his injury drops him a couple of spots that could be a huge lucky break for us... this guy is going to be an elite defender and a difference-maker for years and years. In a weak draft, he's the one guy I see who I feel really confident will have a major impact. He also pairs perfectly with either Love or Pek... and, realistically, it's unlikely we keep both Love and Pek for the long haul anyway. I think we should do what's necessary to get Noel (within reason, obv) even if that means we have to do something like package another asset with our pick to move up enough.

[RCG] · Post #505 » by **[RCG]** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:32 pm

Klomp wrote:
[RCG] wrote:
Klomp wrote:I think I finally figured out a comparison for Victor Oladipo...

Avery Bradley

With much better size?

I don't think Oladipo is his listed 6'5" I think hes closer to 6'3" or 6'4"

Well let me know when you finish measuring him. And it's still taller than the 6' Bradley

Post #506 » by **C.lupus** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:48 pm

I'm having a lot of trouble getting excited about this draft. Right now, I'd say Noel, McLemore, and Oladipo are my top three and if they are all off the board, I'd trade the pick for someone established. I like Porter but I don't think he's a great fit here as his weaknesses are the same as this team's needs.

Grits n Gravy · Post #507 » by **Grits n Gravy** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:55 pm

[RCG] wrote:
Klomp wrote:
[RCG] wrote:"I think I finally figured out a comparison for Victor Oladipo...

Avery Bradley"
- Klomp

With much better size?

I don't think Oladipo is his listed 6'5" I think hes closer to 6'3" or 6'4"

Well let me know when you finish measuring him. And it's still taller than the 6' Bradley

i agree 100% with klomp. bradley meaured out 6'3.25 in shoes at the draft combine...i think oladipo will be 6'4 at best.

Post #508 » by **C.lupus** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:03 pm

Oladipo has about 30 pounds on Bradley, though.

Krapinsky · Post #509 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:32 pm

I think Oladipo is probably 6'3ish but i wouldn't be surprised if his wingspan/reach was comparable to a much taller player, similar to Eric Gordon.

Krapinsky · Post #510 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:33 pm

I think Oladipo is probably 6'3ish but i wouldn't be surprised if his wingspan/reach was comparable to a much taller player, similar to Eric Gordon.

Krapinsky · Post #511 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:44 pm

I think Oladipo is probably 6'3ish but i wouldn't be surprised if his wingspan/reach was comparable to a much taller player, similar to Eric Gordon.

Post #512 » by **Klomp** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:51 pm

Krapinsky wrote:I think Oladipo is probably 6'3ish but i wouldn't be surprised if his wingspan/reach was comparable to a much taller player, similar to Eric Gordon.

OK we get it. :lol:

Bradley also has a long wingspan. Not as long as Gordon (6'9") but its pretty long (6'7.25"). Both guys are the same height.

Bradley, in addition to the physical similarities, also has a similar skillset as Oladipo. That's why I like the comparison. Sure Victor has 30 pounds on him, but that could easily be inflated as well.

Krapinsky · Post #513 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:45 pm

Klomp wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:I think Oladipo is probably 6'3ish but i wouldn't be surprised if his wingspan/reach was comparable to a much taller player, similar to Eric Gordon.

OK we get it.

Yowsers, not sure how that happned

Klomp wrote:Bradley also has a long wingspan. Not as long as Gordon (6'9") but its pretty long (6'7.25"). Both guys are the same height.

Bradley, in addition to the physical similarities, also has a similar skillset as Oladipo. That's why I like the comparison. Sure Victor has 30 pounds on him, but that could easily be inflated as well.

When Bradley came out he was thought of more as a PG prospect or a PG/SG. You don't hear that with Oladipo so I think his size is probably there.

[RCG] · Post #514 » by **[RCG]** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:20 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
When Bradley came out he was thought of more as a PG prospect or a PG/SG. You don't hear that with Oladipo so I think his size is probably there.

In agreement.

wolves_fan_82au · Post #515 » by **wolves_fan_82au** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:10 am

tim hardaway jr with the memphis pick a few draft boards say,ill be happy with that

who knows maybe we will pick up glenn robinson son with the other pick :lol:

Devilzsidewalk · Post #516 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:05 pm

still interested in Cauley-Stein? Played almost the entire game and responded w/ 9 and 4 and a single block in a 1st round NIT loss to a 4,000 student school w/ 6'6" guys in the frontcourt

[RCG] · Post #517 » by **[RCG]** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:03 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:still interested in Cauley-Stein? Played almost the entire game and responded w/ 9 and 4 and a single block in a 1st round NIT loss to a 4,000 student school w/ 6'6" guys in the frontcourt

I don't think anyone believes (or at least they shouldn't) that WCS will be an immediate impact player. Even coming to UK it was thought that he'd be extremely raw and would stay for at least his sophomore year. He's got a ways to go but he's got the physical tools

Krapinsky · Post #518 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:06 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:still interested in Cauley-Stein? Played almost the entire game and responded w/ 9 and 4 and a single block in a 1st round NIT loss to a 4,000 student school w/ 6'6" guys in the frontcourt

I still like him and I'd take him at the 8-10 range. I like him more than Len, Austin, and Zeller - other centers projected to go in that range. All of those guys have had bad games. I think one of Kentucky's struggles this year is their poor guard play and i think that's more of a reason why Willie ended up with 9 points on 4-6 shooting. In the Robert-Morris game Kentucky had 7 assists as a team.

[RCG] · Post #519 » by **[RCG]** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:21 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:still interested in Cauley-Stein? Played almost the entire game and responded w/ 9 and 4 and a single block in a 1st round NIT loss to a 4,000 student school w/ 6'6" guys in the frontcourt

I still like him and I'd take him at the 8-10 range. I like him more than Len, Austin, and Zeller - other centers projected to go in that range. All of those guys have had bad games. I think one of Kentucky's struggles this year is their poor guard play and i think that's more of a reason why Willie ended up with 9 points on 4-6 shooting. In the Robert-Morris game Kentucky had 7 assists as a team.

You mean Harrow's 0 assists? You can't blame the poor point guard play :roll:

MinneOOPalis · Post #520 » by **MinneOOPalis** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:55 pm

I think Gary Harris would be better for us with our first pick than these project centers.

Glen Robinson III is a top 10 pick next year in a deep draft, If he enter's this year then he would be a steal.

We could solidify our wing positions for the future in this draft alone if we do it right.