Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[BlacJacMac]

If we do land Durant.. what does his contract look like after this year?

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[Rookie-Mistake]

If we do land Durant.. what does his contract look like after this year?

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Omg..
Fair enough for a 30 year old durant but not a 40 year old..

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[wolves_89]

If we do land Durant.. what does his contract look like after this year?

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Omg..
Fair enough for a 30 year old durant but not a 40 year old..

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This is the biggest reason I'm not all that interested in a Durant trade. Paying him $175M for his age 37-39 seasons seems like an incredibly risky thing to do. I look at the Sixers and Paul George (who is 2 years younger than Durant) as a scary example of what can happen with big extensions for older players.

[moss_is_1]

Posting for the details regarding the trade they discussed

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The proposed trade is as follows if you want to skip a listen;

MIN out; Julius Randle, Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham, Nickeil Alexander-Walker (S&T)
MIN in; Kevin Durant, Nic Claxton, Lonzo Ball

PHO out; Kevin Durant
PHO in; Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham

MIA out; Duncan Robinson/Andrew Wiggins ("spare parts" was their wording)
MIA in; Julius Randle

BRK out; Nic Claxton
BRK in; Duncan Robinson/Andrew Wiggins, picks

CHI out; Lonzo Ball
CHI in; Nickeil Alexander-Walker (S&T)


They don't mention where the "picks" going to the Nets come into play, although the spreadsheet they have after the fact includes both the 17th and 31st picks so it isn't our current picks

The S&T of NAW, while including the draft picks for this season makes it extremely unlikely. We'd be picking guys and then holding them until free agency opens around a week later. Unless we waited until after the fact to just trade NAW for Ball in free agency in a separate deal.

Any deal sending out Rudy for Durant makes sense to then try and flip Randle to get Claxton. He's not as good but he's younger, more athletic, has a relationship with KD and his contract declines as an added bonus.

Rudy, Randle, DDV outgoing is 77.9m and KD/Claxton is 80m. If we include Leonard Miller's 2.2m or Minott's 2.1m we could save a bit, but not necessary.

[moss_is_1]

If we do land Durant.. what does his contract look like after this year?

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Yikes. I have no interest in paying Durant 60m per season at almost 40 years old.

[shangrila]

Posting for the details regarding the trade they discussed

Watch on YouTube

The proposed trade is as follows if you want to skip a listen;

MIN out; Julius Randle, Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham, Nickeil Alexander-Walker (S&T)
MIN in; Kevin Durant, Nic Claxton, Lonzo Ball

PHO out; Kevin Durant
PHO in; Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham

MIA out; Duncan Robinson/Andrew Wiggins ("spare parts" was their wording)
MIA in; Julius Randle

BRK out; Nic Claxton
BRK in; Duncan Robinson/Andrew Wiggins, picks

CHI out; Lonzo Ball
CHI in; Nickeil Alexander-Walker (S&T)


They don't mention where the "picks" going to the Nets come into play, although the spreadsheet they have after the fact includes both the 17th and 31st picks so it isn't our current picks

The S&T of NAW, while including the draft picks for this season makes it extremely unlikely. We'd be picking guys and then holding them until free agency opens around a week later. Unless we waited until after the fact to just trade NAW for Ball in free agency in a separate deal.

Any deal sending out Rudy for Durant makes sense to then try and flip Randle to get Claxton. He's not as good but he's younger, more athletic, has a relationship with KD and his contract declines as an added bonus.

Rudy, Randle, DDV outgoing is 77.9m and KD/Claxton is 80m. If we include Leonard Miller's 2.2m or Minott's 2.1m we could save a bit, but not necessary.

The Lonzo-NAW part could easily be separate.

[Klomp]

Yikes. I have no interest in paying Durant 60m per season at almost 40 years old.

We're going to have to start getting used to it as a fan base, especially if we want Anthony Edwards to retire in a Timberwolves uniform. By the time Ant gets to that age, I bet his contract will be closer to $90 million.

Kevin Durant's game has aged like fine wine. Is there risk? Of course. But we have to start being okay taking risks as a franchise if we want to be making the conference finals or better on a regular basis. If we're too scared to pay players, get ready for first round exits at best.

[Domejandro]

Posting for the details regarding the trade they discussed

The proposed trade is as follows if you want to skip a listen;

MIN out; Julius Randle, Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham, Nickeil Alexander-Walker (S&T)
MIN in; Kevin Durant, Nic Claxton, Lonzo Ball

PHO out; Kevin Durant
PHO in; Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham

MIA out; Duncan Robinson/Andrew Wiggins ("spare parts" was their wording)
MIA in; Julius Randle

BRK out; Nic Claxton
BRK in; Duncan Robinson/Andrew Wiggins, picks

CHI out; Lonzo Ball
CHI in; Nickeil Alexander-Walker (S&T)


They don't mention where the "picks" going to the Nets come into play, although the spreadsheet they have after the fact includes both the 17th and 31st picks so it isn't our current picks

The S&T of NAW, while including the draft picks for this season makes it extremely unlikely. We'd be picking guys and then holding them until free agency opens around a week later. Unless we waited until after the fact to just trade NAW for Ball in free agency in a separate deal.

Any deal sending out Rudy for Durant makes sense to then try and flip Randle to get Claxton. He's not as good but he's younger, more athletic, has a relationship with KD and his contract declines as an added bonus.

Rudy, Randle, DDV outgoing is 77.9m and KD/Claxton is 80m. If we include Leonard Miller's 2.2m or Minott's 2.1m we could save a bit, but not necessary.

Yeah, that trade proposal is a logistical disaster, but I don't expect anything else from Timberwolves podcasters.

Actually a ludicrous trade idea, NAW cannot be sign-and-traded until free-agency starts. They are effectively saying "let's hold up the trade until free-agency and have Chicago commit the most blatant tampering in NBA history for Nickeil Alexander-Walker."

[Guest84]

I thought they mentioned the trade idea came from Zach Lowe initially. I was driving so wasn’t fully paying attention

[minimus]

Nic Claxton bad back is concerning.

[karch34]

If we do land Durant.. what does his contract look like after this year?

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Omg..
Fair enough for a 30 year old durant but not a 40 year old..

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Agreed

[shangrila]

The proposed trade is as follows if you want to skip a listen;

MIN out; Julius Randle, Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham, Nickeil Alexander-Walker (S&T)
MIN in; Kevin Durant, Nic Claxton, Lonzo Ball

PHO out; Kevin Durant
PHO in; Rudy Gobert, Donte DiVincenzo, Rob Dillingham

MIA out; Duncan Robinson/Andrew Wiggins ("spare parts" was their wording)
MIA in; Julius Randle

BRK out; Nic Claxton
BRK in; Duncan Robinson/Andrew Wiggins, picks

CHI out; Lonzo Ball
CHI in; Nickeil Alexander-Walker (S&T)


They don't mention where the "picks" going to the Nets come into play, although the spreadsheet they have after the fact includes both the 17th and 31st picks so it isn't our current picks

The S&T of NAW, while including the draft picks for this season makes it extremely unlikely. We'd be picking guys and then holding them until free agency opens around a week later. Unless we waited until after the fact to just trade NAW for Ball in free agency in a separate deal.

Any deal sending out Rudy for Durant makes sense to then try and flip Randle to get Claxton. He's not as good but he's younger, more athletic, has a relationship with KD and his contract declines as an added bonus.

Rudy, Randle, DDV outgoing is 77.9m and KD/Claxton is 80m. If we include Leonard Miller's 2.2m or Minott's 2.1m we could save a bit, but not necessary.

Yeah, that trade proposal is a logistical disaster, but I don't expect anything else from Timberwolves podcasters.

Actually a ludicrous trade idea, NAW cannot be sign-and-traded until free-agency starts. They are effectively saying "let's hold up the trade until free-agency and have Chicago commit the most blatant tampering in NBA history for Nickeil Alexander-Walker."

2 things;

1. This originally came from Zach Lowe
2. The NAW-Lonzo swap is it's own thing. They've packaged them together to show the total offseason plan but there's nothing stopping this deal from going ahead without it.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I'm all for a big trade. Why? Because ANT need to be paired with a star. Randle did have up and down all season but he hold ball way too long which is not good for others players. we have one ball dominant ANT, another is not good specially as both turn over the ball a lot. Second point is about ANT situation, i don't think this guy will be patient for ever to win a championship. I would not be surprised if in 2 years, he request for trade if we remain where we are now.
We have a window to win now, in the next 2 or 3 years and in NBA windows like that don't last long.
That's why I'm all for a big trade, including trading Rudy if we got something bigger.

[TheZachAttack]

Yikes. I have no interest in paying Durant 60m per season at almost 40 years old.

We're going to have to start getting used to it as a fan base, especially if we want Anthony Edwards to retire in a Timberwolves uniform. By the time Ant gets to that age, I bet his contract will be closer to $90 million.

Kevin Durant's game has aged like fine wine. Is there risk? Of course. But we have to start being okay taking risks as a franchise if we want to be making the conference finals or better on a regular basis. If we're too scared to pay players, get ready for first round exits at best.

Exactly. I am not going to say Durant will be what he was at 30. But this version of him involves him getting to spots and making jump shots. With his length and jump shot — it’s not like these shots aren’t open shots for him and that doesn’t change much with athleticism. I think he increasingly can’t takeover games and get to the rim/etc like a #1 needs to but he has Ant for that.

[Guest84]

Anyone else hearing more about Rudy being the centerpiece of a Durant trade? I’ve been hearing more about phx wanting to get bigger.

[wolves_89]

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If the Wolves aren't among Durant's preferred choices I don't see a trade working out for Minnesota. The only way I saw a chance for a KD trade to make sense for the Wolves was if he was fully onboard.

[TimberKat]

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If the Wolves aren't among Durant's preferred choices I don't see a trade working out for Minnesota. The only way I saw a chance for a KD trade to make sense for the Wolves was if he was fully onboard.

That is why the Towns trade suck so much. Towns is a legit all star that wants to be here.

[Rookie-Mistake]

Well.
I guess we're running it back.

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[Neeva]

Good let Durant **** up one of those teams for the next 2-3 seasons. I still say Connelly will make some moves though. Draft day trades are his thing.

[Neeva]

I think Naz may be sign and traded, fans will be upset but it’s for the best, He’s not really a playoff performer, and his value will probably decrease in upcoming seasons.