Ban Howard Mass: The new draft thread

[dunkonu21]

Can someone try to sell me on Lopez, because I'm just not feeling him.

It's been said that his ceiling is PJ Brown or Andris Biedrins with better offense (but not by much looking at Lopez's FG%, although his FT% is better than Biedrins).

I've watched him play multiple times and have always walked away scratching my head on why people have elevated him so high. His shot selection is horrible, he's not a dominant rebounder, all he seems to do is heave a crappy looking hook shot over MUCH shorter players. However, he does play good defense, which is nice. What's going to happen when he plays against NBA caliber big men? I think he'll be exposed.

Here are his weaknesses according to DX:

[PeeDee]

Can someone try to sell me on Lopez, because I'm just not feeling him.

It's been said that his ceiling is PJ Brown or Andris Biedrins with better offense (but not by much looking at Lopez's FG%, although his FT% is better than Biedrins).

I've watched him play multiple times and have always walked away scratching my head on why people have elevated him so high. His shot selection is horrible, he's not a dominant rebounder, all he seems to do is heave a crappy looking hook shot over MUCH shorter players. However, he does play good defense, which is nice. What's going to happen when he plays against NBA caliber big men? I think he'll be exposed.

Here are his weaknesses according to DX:

[PeeDee]

Who do you think is better?

Right now I'd take Mayo over him for sure. And if I was front office brass, I'd get Randolph and Gallinari in for workouts and run throughs too.

I'm not sold on those two by any means, but what I hear leads me to believe that they have a chance at being better than Lopez will pan out to be. I know it's kind of Homery to lean on the hope of upside, but I'd kind of rather swing for the fences and strikeout than dink around in mediocrity like the Wolves have all but one year of their existence.

I know what I just said makes me sort of a hypocrite regarding things I've said about DeAndre Jordan, but if a player can't get clock, there's gotta be something wrong there.

[Worm Guts]

I don't necessarily think Mayo has alot more potential than Lopez. His game is already pretty refined and he didn't dominate this year in college. Where's the extra potential coming from?

[PeeDee]

Sorry, I should've split that up better. The upside was referring to Gallinari and Randolph. I think Mayo has upside too, just like many rookies, he'll get better with experience.

I feel that Mayo is a better prospect than Lopez. I think he'll be able to adjust to the NBA game better in light of both of their weaknesses. He has a nice jumper, plays good de and is not selfish. I think Mayo, Foye, McCants and Brewer would make a hell of a future backcourt. With Brewer and Mayo providing the perimeter de we desperately need.

Lopez also provides a need for us but I think he'll turn out mediocre; that's not something I want to spend a top pick on.

[Klomp]

Jonte Flowers is playing at the Portsmouth Invitational. The rest of his team:

Sasha Kaun (Kansas)
Dwayne Curtis (Ole Miss)
Richard Roby (Colorado)
Drew Lavender (Xavier)
Chris Lofton (Tennessee)
Quan Powell (Auburn)
Jonathan Wallace (Georgetown)

Some pretty big names on that list

http://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/rosters2.php

[collin_k41]

Here's a good question for everyone. If you could have one of Joey Dorsey, DJ White, or Devon Hardin who would you take and why?

[TheFranchise21]

Here's a good question for everyone. If you could have one of Joey Dorsey, DJ White, or Devon Hardin who would you take and why?

1. White
2. Hardin
3. Dorsey

White - I like that he already has a developed offensive game. The good thing is he probably won't be relied upon to score at the next level (at least not right away) which can allow him to focus on his defense. He's the youngest of the 3 too.
Hardin - I like his athleticism but I think being out most of his junior year hurt his draft stock. I think he has a lot of room to improve but being nearly the same age as White, I'd rather take White who is more developed.
Dorsey - His age is a negative factor and his rumored attitude problems raise red flags as well. I would stay away from him.

Does anyone else see Channing Frye in Javale McGee? I for one think Frye's NBA career has been a disappointment. That's not to say McGee will be one too but I'd rather have a more physical big man.

[deeney0]

I'd go 1) Hardin 2) White 3) Dorsey. I think Hardin is the best defender/rebounder of the group.

What about putting Robin Lopez in that group?

For me it'd probably be 1) Hardin 2) R. Lopez 3) White 4) Dorsey.

[dunkonu21]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/colu ... fc58a.html

[Devilzsidewalk]

Here's a good question for everyone. If you could have one of Joey Dorsey, DJ White, or Devon Hardin who would you take and why?

good question, its the old 'which do you prefer most, having your balls wrenched, your eyeballs gouged, or your anus pentrated'

all 3 choices are less than ideal, but.... Hardin is an underachiever but has the best size. Dorsey gives great effort, but is perpetually in foul trouble and seems to overrate his own abilities, and White can't guard center...

man, this is HARD! ok, 1. White because in the NBA chances are he's still gonna be productive and score at least a little and rebound because he has skill. 2. Hardin on the hope that he develops 3. Dorsey on the hope that he stops fouling and becomes more productive in the NBA than he is in college at age 24 (least likely)

[shrink]

I don't watch enough college basketball to make legitimate comments on this thread, so I throw this one out to you all:

If Derrick Rose plays as clutch in the Championship Game as he did today, is it possible he'd get the nod for the top pick over Beasley?

[Devilzsidewalk]

I don't watch enough college basketball to make legitimate comments on this thread, so I throw this one out to you all:

If Derrick Rose plays as clutch in the Championship Game as he did today, is it possible he'd get the nod for the top pick over Beasley?

i think after today alone its probably 50/50 depending on the team

[the_bruce]

Rose = at least 50/50 imo

[Worm Guts]

Here's a good question for everyone. If you could have one of Joey Dorsey, DJ White, or Devon Hardin who would you take and why?

1. Dorsey- he rebounds and defends at an NBA level right now.

2. Hardin- has the potential to rebound and defend at an NBA level.

3. White- doesn't do anything at an NBA level and probably never will.

[TheFranchise21]

I don't watch enough college basketball to make legitimate comments on this thread, so I throw this one out to you all:

If Derrick Rose plays as clutch in the Championship Game as he did today, is it possible he'd get the nod for the top pick over Beasley?

I don't think he even has to play like he did today on Monday night. I think he's solidified himself as 1A to Beasley's 1B. But like someone else already said, it really depends on who lands the top pick.

[dunkonu21]

I am glad that Derrick Rose doesn't have to deal with people screaming in his face.

[wolves_fan_82au]

i would take Jawai simply cause hes a lot bigger than most the other centres

Dorsey is 6'9 260 and is more of a pf so unless we move jefferson to centre than hes kinda wasted unless we dont re-sign Smith

Hardin is 6'11 250 and is a centre who is not a bad option though hes tipped to go first round

DJ White is 6'9 230 to small and is a pf

Nathan Jawai 6'10 282 (hes actually 6'11 i read somewhere)

i guess it really depends where we wanna play Jefferson C or PF

[Klomp]

i would take Jawai simply cause hes a lot bigger than most the other centres

Dorsey is 6'9 260 and is more of a pf so unless we move jefferson to centre than hes kinda wasted unless we dont re-sign Smith

Hardin is 6'11 250 and is a centre who is not a bad option though hes tipped to go first round

DJ White is 6'9 230 to small and is a pf

Nathan Jawai 6'10 282 (hes actually 6'11 i read somewhere)

i guess it really depends where we wanna play Jefferson C or PF

Think Ben Wallace. Until he got to Cleveland, he's been playing center his whole career.


Oh....and I agree with how Worm Guts ordered them

[collin_k41]

If we added jason thompson to this list where would he rank?