Pre-Draft Thread / Workout Updates

[PG24]

Doogie is bringing up an interesting point on radio. Any trade of our pick cannot happen until after the pick is made because we traded last year's 1st to Houston (Sepien rule)

I believe that's incorrect. Since the Wolves already own another 1st (#26), they are free to do whatever they choose with #9 whenever they choose to do so.

[andyhop]

Doogie is bringing up an interesting point on radio. Any trade of our pick cannot happen until after the pick is made because we traded last year's 1st to Houston (Sepien rule)

The only interesting thing about his point is that if he said that he doesn't understand the rule.

Last years pick has no bearing on whether or not you can trade a pick, the rule is that you can't trade picks if that will leave or potentially leave due to owing a protected pick you without a 1st round pick for 2 consecutive years in the future.

[Klomp]

Doogie is bringing up an interesting point on radio. Any trade of our pick cannot happen until after the pick is made because we traded last year's 1st to Houston (Sepien rule)

The only interesting thing about his point is that if he said that he doesn't understand the rule.

Last years pick has no bearing on whether or not you can trade a pick, the rule is that you can't trade picks if that will leave or potentially leave due to owing a protected pick you without a 1st round pick for 2 consecutive years in the future.

Yeah, I'm realizing that now after reading more into it.

[Howard Cosell]

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 40s
Opposing Eastern Conference exec: Bobcats and Cavs "ultra-aggressive ... in seeking trade partner."

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Trading down makes complete sense for the Bobcats. They would like to add 2 assets instead of just 1 in this draft, a PF and a Center with size.

Is the 4th pick good enough for the Twolves to get Mclemore or Oladipo?

Is Mclemore Flips's second guy he was talking about in being aggressive in moving up?

13 more days.

[shrink]

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 40s
Opposing Eastern Conference exec: Bobcats and Cavs "ultra-aggressive ... in seeking trade partner."

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Trading down makes complete sense for the Bobcats. They would like to add 2 assets instead of just 1 in this draft, a PF and a Center with size.

Is the 4th pick good enough for the Twolves to get Mclemore or Oladipo?

Is Mclemore Flips's second guy he was talking about in being aggressive in moving up?

13 more days.

13 days is right. If multiple teams want to trade down, you'll most likely see teams waiting until draft night to do a deal, when they have more information about who is available on the draft board.

I hope I'm wrong, and someone offers a good deal that we can't say no to. I hate waiting.

This is good news though. Multiple sellers will compete to bring the price down.

[Howard Cosell]

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 40s
Opposing Eastern Conference exec: Bobcats and Cavs "ultra-aggressive ... in seeking trade partner."

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Trading down makes complete sense for the Bobcats. They would like to add 2 assets instead of just 1 in this draft, a PF and a Center with size.

Is the 4th pick good enough for the Twolves to get Mclemore or Oladipo?

Is Mclemore Flips's second guy he was talking about in being aggressive in moving up?

13 more days.

13 days is right. If multiple teams want to trade down, you'll most likely see teams waiting until draft night to do a deal, when they have more information about who is available on the draft board.

I hope I'm wrong, and someone offers a good deal that we can't say no to. I hate waiting.

This is good news though. Multiple sellers will compete to bring the price down.

Good point, multiple sellers will help at least contain the price of the Twolves moving up if not make it a bit cheaper. If the Twolves do trade up I don't expect to hear an official trade from the Twolves until after we complete our 1st round pick.

[MinotauroBigNog]

Seen this the other day and have yet to see it posted here. Hopefully I'm not the only Nogueira fan.

Jerry Zgoda ‏@JerryZgoda 19h
Badger Ryan Evans, for one, was impressed with Brazilian big man Nogueira's wingspan & bounce. "Mystery no longer. The kid's amazing."

Jerry Zgoda ‏@JerryZgoda 19h
Evans figures Nogueira is 1st-round pick, top 15 even maybe. "But I'm not a scout."

[[RCG]]

Seen this the other day and have yet to see it posted here. Hopefully I'm not the only Nogueira fan.

Jerry Zgoda ‏@JerryZgoda 19h
Badger Ryan Evans, for one, was impressed with Brazilian big man Nogueira's wingspan & bounce. "Mystery no longer. The kid's amazing."

Jerry Zgoda ‏@JerryZgoda 19h
Evans figures Nogueira is 1st-round pick, top 15 even maybe. "But I'm not a scout."

Don't see why Evans' opinions matter any. Nogueira was a possible late first who everyone knew had great length. If this was a top-10 pick or actual NBA player who was impressed it might mean something. A late-2nd/undrafted prospect? Not so much.

[[RCG]]

Well having two options helps us. I''m guessing it'd take less to trade to #4 and take whoever falls to #4 between McLemore and Oladipo. I'm guessing Noel will go top-3 and probably Porter as well.

[Klomp]

Seen this the other day and have yet to see it posted here. Hopefully I'm not the only Nogueira fan.

Jerry Zgoda ‏@JerryZgoda 19h
Badger Ryan Evans, for one, was impressed with Brazilian big man Nogueira's wingspan & bounce. "Mystery no longer. The kid's amazing."

Jerry Zgoda ‏@JerryZgoda 19h
Evans figures Nogueira is 1st-round pick, top 15 even maybe. "But I'm not a scout."

Don't see why Evans' opinions matter any. Nogueira was a possible late first who everyone knew had great length. If this was a top-10 pick or actual NBA player who was impressed it might mean something. A late-2nd/undrafted prospect? Not so much.

Pretty much. That's mostly why I didn't post it

[Klomp]

Flip will be on KFAN at 3:30

[theGreatRC]

Can someone please quote this post when they figure out something about Oladipo or the draft? I'm about to head into work and my phone gets notified if I get my post quoted.

Thanks

[Krapinsky]

Can someone please quote this post when they figure out something about Oladipo or the draft? I'm about to head into work and my phone gets notified if I get my post quoted.

Thanks

Maybe everyone should just keep quoting this post?

[Devilzsidewalk]

Probably a couple years of heavy lifting away from contributing. Plus, every time I see an intriguing rail, I'm reminded of how much Chris Johnson got to play. And he's been around the NBA and even looked decent in limited minutes for us and still can't get on the court for Adelman. A guy like Dieng would probably see minutes because he can contribute to the offensive system since he has some range on his jumper, but if we take a guy like Gobert or Nogueira, I doubt they'll see the court much. At least that's what I've gathered from watching Adelman at any rate.

[Devilzsidewalk]

I just figured out something about the draft

Can someone please quote this post when they figure out something about Oladipo or the draft? I'm about to head into work and my phone gets notified if I get my post quoted.

Thanks

[Krapinsky]

Probably a couple years of heavy lifting away from contributing. Plus, every time I see an intriguing rail, I'm reminded of how much Chris Johnson got to play. And he's been around the NBA and even looked decent in limited minutes for us and still can't get on the court for Adelman. A guy like Dieng would probably see minutes because he can contribute to the offensive system since he has some range on his jumper, but if we take a guy like Gobert or Nogueira, I doubt they'll see the court much. At least that's what I've gathered from watching Adelman at any rate.

Hard tp say whether it's all Adelman or not. Look at guys over the last few years -- Melo, Moultrie, Aldrich, Orton, Whiteside -- and there's lots of coaches that aren't playing inexperienced bigmen draftees.

[Klomp]

Probably a couple years of heavy lifting away from contributing. Plus, every time I see an intriguing rail, I'm reminded of how much Chris Johnson got to play. And he's been around the NBA and even looked decent in limited minutes for us and still can't get on the court for Adelman. A guy like Dieng would probably see minutes because he can contribute to the offensive system since he has some range on his jumper, but if we take a guy like Gobert or Nogueira, I doubt they'll see the court much. At least that's what I've gathered from watching Adelman at any rate.

I don't see two rookies getting considerable PT for Adelman this year anyways. If we keep 26, I'm 95% positive we draft a project player.

[Krapinsky]

Can someone please quote this post when they figure out something about Oladipo or the draft? I'm about to head into work and my phone gets notified if I get my post quoted.

Thanks

Oladipo's favorite food is... spaghetti and meatballs.

[Klomp]

-Flying back home today
-Just went to DC to "check on his condo"
-Oladipo is high character, good work ethic. Will come as close as anyone to reaching potential.
-KCP is bigger. Better straight up perimeter player. Good defender. Oladipo is at another level because of his team's success.
-Not easy to move up. Visit was more because he couldn't at combine. Cover your bases. Build relationship for down the road, even if we don't draft him.
-A lot of people talking about a lot of things. Never been this unsettled so close to the draft in a long time.
-I've liked him from the beginning. Gone on record with what I like about him, so not going to contradict myself now just because close to draft.
-Certain point where you walk away because the price is too much. We know what that is.
-Box of 4-5 players we'd be comfortable with. Some would fill immediate need so we don't have to address in FA Some bolster depth to where we'd be comfortable for 6-7 years.
-There's not a franchise-changer in this draft. Very balanced draft.
-Workouts this weekend. Cover bases in case move up from 26, or get pick in high 2nd.
-If you stay away from redundancies, BOS would have never drafted McHale (in response to Zeller question)
-We'll take best player to contribute now and in future.
-Talked about hiring Calvin Booth. "Diamond in the rough"

[Calinks]

-Flying back home today
-Just went to DC to "check on his condo"
-Oladipo is high character, good work ethic. Will come as close as anyone to reaching potential.
-KCP is bigger. Better straight up perimeter player. Good defender. Oladipo is at another level because of his team's success.
-Not easy to move up. Visit was more because he couldn't at combine. Cover your bases. Build relationship for down the road, even if we don't draft him.
-A lot of people talking about a lot of things. Never been this unsettled so close to the draft in a long time.
-I've liked him from the beginning. Gone on record with what I like about him, so not going to contradict myself now just because close to draft.
-Certain point where you walk away because the price is too much. We know what that is.
-Box of 4-5 players we'd be comfortable with. Some would fill immediate need so we don't have to address in FA Some bolster depth to where we'd be comfortable for 6-7 years.
-There's not a franchise-changer in this draft. Very balanced draft.
-Workouts this weekend. Cover bases in case move up from 26, or get pick in high 2nd.
-If you stay away from redundancies, BOS would have never drafted McHale (in response to Zeller question)
-We'll take best player to contribute now and in future.
-Talked about hiring Calvin Booth. "Diamond in the rough"

Thanks Klomp for flying out to see him. Appreciate that dedication.