The Jaylen Nowell Thread

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Pay that man his money — KGB

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I wonder if we can leverage DLo and Nowell against each other?

“We’re only going to pay one of you - who’s going to be the first to take our deal?”

[Colbinii]

I wonder if we can leverage DLo and Nowell against each other?

“We’re only going to pay one of you - who’s going to be the first to take our deal?”

My guess--at least I hope--is he hold onto Jaylen's cap hold of a mere 1.8 Million, let him know we are going to sign you to a big extention [Jordan Poole and not Tyler Herro money], then sign and trade Dlo for a different player, use the MLE on a point guard and then sign Nowell.

Thats ideal. We will see what we end up doing.

[Klomp]

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I know that the rule the tweeter is referring to is correct, but which rule is it again? I'm trying to find it in the Coon FAQ to see if there's any fine print to look out for. This isn't the Arenas rule, is it?

[BlacJacMac]

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I know that the rule the tweeter is referring to is correct, but which rule is it again? I'm trying to find it in the Coon FAQ to see if there's any fine print to look out for. This isn't the Arenas rule, is it?

The salary in the first year of a veteran extension may be any amount up to 120% of the player's previous salary, or 120% of the estimated average salary (see question number 31), whichever is greater, but no more than the player's maximum salary in that season (i.e., the maximum salary the player can receive if he were to sign a new contract that year as a free agent -- see question number 23).

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q58

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q31

So his starting salary on an extension would be 120% of the average '22-'23 player salary - which is somewhere in the 10-12M range I believe. So with allowed raises each year, it comes to something right around 4/58.

[Klomp]

So his starting salary on an extension would be 120% of the average '22-'23 player salary - which is somewhere in the 10-12M range I believe. So with allowed raises each year, it comes to something right around 4/58.

Thanks. I wondered if that was the one, but was confused because last season's average salary was only $8.5 million from a quick online search, and 120% of that obviously wouldn't get there..

[winforlose]

Small sample size and all that, but… Nowell is averaging 2 APG to .2 TOPG. That is insane. Especially for a guy also averaging 16.2 PPG and 4.8 RPG.

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So his starting salary on an extension would be 120% of the average '22-'23 player salary - which is somewhere in the 10-12M range I believe. So with allowed raises each year, it comes to something right around 4/58.

Thanks. I wondered if that was the one, but was confused because last season's average salary was only $8.5 million from a quick online search, and 120% of that obviously wouldn't get there..

Last year, Duncan Robinson got 5 for $90, with that fifth year being an ETO.

And for those that might be unaware, this CBA rule capping extensions is what hurt the Wolves with Jimmy Butler, since he hated that 120% of his final year of salary didn’t reach the max.

I understand that the owners want a rule in the CBA to limit how big a deal they can give out, to reduce the expectations of a star player, but his artificial limit causes more harm than good. It makes it harder (but not impossible) to give a 2nd round star like Jokic his max deal without forcing him to wait. I’ve never been a fan of this one.

[wolves_89]

I wonder if we can leverage DLo and Nowell against each other?

“We’re only going to pay one of you - who’s going to be the first to take our deal?”

The more I've seen this season the more I've started to believe that Nowell basically replacing DLO next season is a real option. I've started to give serious thought to the idea that Ant/Nowell might actually be a better long-term pairing than Ant/DLO.

Ideally, I'd love to have both back on reasonable contracts, but that will require DLO accepting a contract at a number well below his current yearly salary.

[Klomp]

I wonder if we can leverage DLo and Nowell against each other?

“We’re only going to pay one of you - who’s going to be the first to take our deal?”

The more I've seen this season the more I've started to believe that Nowell basically replacing DLO next season is a real option. I've started to give serious thought to the idea that Ant/Nowell might actually be a better long-term pairing than Ant/DLO.

Ideally, I'd love to have both back on reasonable contracts, but that will require DLO accepting a contract at a number well below his current yearly salary.

Another thing this opens up:

We talk about this starting lineup not having a energy guy. For those not sold on Nowell in a starting role, keep him as 6th man and use whatever means we want to bring in a 5th guy who can be that energy in the starting lineup. Think of a Tre Jones type. A Pat Bev type. etcetera

[Murphs56]

How long long Nowell is closing games over Russell with Ant handling the ball. That type of instant offense is so valuable down the stretch.

[winforlose]

How long long Nowell is closing games over Russell with Ant handling the ball. That type of instant offense is so valuable down the stretch.

For reasons beyond my understanding, Finch doesn’t seem to want Nowell playing anything close to 30 minutes. I see him eating JMACs minutes first, then some of Prince’s minutes. Finishing might happen, but it doesn’t always need to be for Dlo. If Ant or KAT are really off on a given night, one of them can be on the pine. It is about always putting forth the best squad on any given night.

[Battletrigger]

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I know that the rule the tweeter is referring to is correct, but which rule is it again? I'm trying to find it in the Coon FAQ to see if there's any fine print to look out for. This isn't the Arenas rule, is it?

Id sign him for that.

[guest81]

I don't understand why everybody wants to make Nowell a starter. He's the perfect 6th man. Putting him in the starting lineup just takes away shots from the starters and now the bench doesn't have any firepower

[KGdaBom]

I don't understand why everybody wants to make Nowell a starter. He's the perfect 6th man. Putting him in the starting lineup just takes away shots from the starters and now the bench doesn't have any firepower

Agreed

[BlacJacMac]

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I know that the rule the tweeter is referring to is correct, but which rule is it again? I'm trying to find it in the Coon FAQ to see if there's any fine print to look out for. This isn't the Arenas rule, is it?

Id sign him for that.

100%.

But I don't think he'd sign for that.

[twolves31]

I know that the rule the tweeter is referring to is correct, but which rule is it again? I'm trying to find it in the Coon FAQ to see if there's any fine print to look out for. This isn't the Arenas rule, is it?

Id sign him for that.

100%.

But I don't think he'd sign for that.

What do you think he is worth? Unless the Wolves make the WCF and Jaylen averages 20+ in the playoffs I don't see him getting a bigger salary than say Collin Sexton's 4 year 70.

[Biff Cooper]

I wonder if we can leverage DLo and Nowell against each other?

“We’re only going to pay one of you - who’s going to be the first to take our deal?”

I'm less about getting a deal for one of them than I am about making sure we choose the right one to keep and then paying that one fairly. If both of them prove themselves, I could see us figuring out a way to keep both of them.

[younggunsmn]

I think you are forgetting that we have to extend Jaden as well as Ant, and Jaden is going to get 20+, minimum.
We can't afford Nowell+D-Lo, this isnt a market that is going to go 30+ million into the luxury tax, I don't care who owns the team.

For me, D-Lo is quickly becoming the 5th most important member of the team after Ant, Kat, Rudy and now Jaden.
Nowell may play his way past him too, if he maintains how he has started the season.
Having 2 key backcourt pieces as unrestricted free agents isnt going to be a great feeling next summer.
I'm sure Nowell sees what Poole and Herro got paid, and is willing to bet on himself.
He might turn down the 4-58 we could offer him right now even if we decided to do that.

I just don't see a path to Russell being back that doesn't see him accepting about half of what he is making right now.

I could see Nowell re-signing for something similar to Sexton, with us using the MLE on a PG.

[winforlose]

I think you are forgetting that we have to extend Jaden as well as Ant, and Jaden is going to get 20+, minimum.
We can't afford Nowell+D-Lo, this isnt a market that is going to go 30+ million into the luxury tax, I don't care who owns the team.

For me, D-Lo is quickly becoming the 5th most important member of the team after Ant, Kat, Rudy and now Jaden.
Nowell may play his way past him too, if he maintains how he has started the season.
Having 2 key backcourt pieces as unrestricted free agents isnt going to be a great feeling next summer.
I'm sure Nowell sees what Poole and Herro got paid, and is willing to bet on himself.
He might turn down the 4-58 we could offer him right now even if we decided to do that.

I just don't see a path to Russell being back that doesn't see him accepting about half of what he is making right now.

I could see Nowell re-signing for something similar to Sexton, with us using the MLE on a PG.

Don’t forget the TV money from the new deal. Cap is gonna explode. Although, the league could smooth the increases, but I doubt it since it would mean more money for owners and less for players.