Official Anthony Edwards Thread

[thinktank]

He is Culver MK2. Now, is this a coaching and development issue or we literally drafting duds?

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Wtf is mk2

[Rookie-Mistake]

In short, and I hope I'm wrong. Second version of Culver.

He is Culver MK2. Now, is this a coaching and development issue or we literally drafting duds?

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Wtf is mk2

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[thinktank]

In short, and I hope I'm wrong. Second version of Culver.

He is Culver MK2. Now, is this a coaching and development issue or we literally drafting duds?

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Wtf is mk2

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Let me try again.

Define “mk2” please.

[Jedzz]

In short, and I hope I'm wrong. Second version of Culver.

Wtf is mk2

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Let me try again.

Define “mk2” please.

Mark II or Mark 2 often refers to the second version of a product, frequently military hardware (Or in names of Lincoln cars, Canon cameras, ...)

He's wondering if Edwards is the next version of Culver.

[WolfAddict]

In short, and I hope I'm wrong. Second version of Culver.

Wtf is mk2

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Let me try again.

Define “mk2” please.

You know Google is a thing right?

Anyway, MK2 (or Mark II) is a second version of something

[Jedzz]

In short, and I hope I'm wrong. Second version of Culver.

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Let me try again.

Define “mk2” please.

You know Google is a thing right?

Anyway, MK2 (or Mark II) is a second version of something

Second phase of MKUltra (another thing google brought up)

[Krapinsky]

Wish we could start over with Johnson, Covington, Saric, one of Cam Johnson/PJ Wash/Herro, Wiggins, a future 1st, and this past year's first.

Are you saying you still wish we had Wiggins? Or did I read that wrong?

Seeing how bad we are this year and now expecting our pick to land in the middle of the lottery of a very good draft, yes -- I would rather have Wiggins and our pick instead of Russell. If we are going to suck, might as well suck with a lottery pick. It seems clear to me that a team led by Towns and Russell will never sniff the second round of the playoffs, provided we can even make it to the playoffs to begin with.

I was a proponent of the trade at the time. Boy was I wrong. Kudos to Shrink and other who called it at the time as the rest of us were easily reassured to put faith in Rosas base don nothing more than his non-sensical business speak.

The worst part of all this, imo, is that we compounded our mistake by drafting a Wiggins 2.0 in Edwards instead of Ball, who unfortunately plays the same position as Russell.

[Jedzz]

Wish we could start over with Johnson, Covington, Saric, one of Cam Johnson/PJ Wash/Herro, Wiggins, a future 1st, and this past year's first.

Are you saying you still wish we had Wiggins? Or did I read that wrong?

Seeing how bad we are this year and now expecting our pick to land in the middle of the lottery of a very good draft, yes -- I would rather have Wiggins and our pick instead of Russell. If we are going to suck, might as well suck with a lottery pick. It seems clear to me that a team led by Towns and Russell will never sniff the second round of the playoffs, provided we can even make it to the playoffs to begin with.

I was a proponent of the trade at the time. Boy was I wrong. Kudos to Shrink and other who called it at the time as the rest of us were easily reassured to put faith in Rosas base don nothing more than his non-sensical business speak.

The worst part of all this, imo, is that we compounded our mistake by drafting a Wiggins 2.0 in Edwards instead of Ball, who unfortunately plays the same position as Russell.

I cannot agree with all this wishing we still had Wiggins stuff. Everyone crying about the missing 2021 draft pick needs to live with the fact that this is what it costed to get rid of the guy. Most of this teams fans should also own up to the fact that their own beliefs in and constant demands for Wiggins being seen as the core you build around for the first 4-5 years was the very reason the team was allowed to Max him. If everyone had been crying for his removal they never would have.

Wiggins will be making 30 million until the summer of 2023. Just NO! DLo is better. Everyone stop blaming the broken season on our good players and start blaming the foolish Pobo and Coach that broke the forward an bigs roles and drafted more project guards. Lebron was nothing but a tank commander his first year in LA too. You need a real roster for a full team.

[Jedzz]

Hey for those Onyeka Okongwu believers in the draft...he's played 14 minutes total so far this season.

Wiseman is shooting 40% from 3 (15 total attempts so far in 12 games, 20 min/g).

Toppin, only played 5 games now and 12mpg. 36% on 14 threes so far.

Haliburton is shooting 51% on his 51 threes so far. Let's call this a big fat MISS for Rosas.

Deni Avdija is shooting 46% on his 35 threes so far. Possibly another miss, athough let's be honest he might look just like Layman/Juancho here. Exact same size and would rarely touch a ball like those guys.

Devin Vassell is shooting 37% on his 30 threes so far. Less stats stuffing across board then I expected already.

Aaron Nesmith only has 5 games and 13 mpg so far but he's struggling at career start.

Saddiq Bey (taken 19th) is shooting 42% on his 62 thress so far. (20 mins/g) MISS for Rosas

Tyrese Maxey is 28% on his 36 threes so far. (as expected)

Immanuel Quickley (taken 25th) is 34% on his 38 threes so far (17 mins/g, 10 ppg, .958 on FT shots)

Desmond Bane (30th pick) is 49% on his 23 threes so far.

Spoiler:

Haliburton and Saddiq bey should have been Wolves. My two Votes in the realGM draft.

[Krapinsky]

Hey for those Onyeka Okongwu believers in the draft...he's played 14 minutes total so far this season.

Wiseman is shooting 40% from 3 (15 total attempts so far in 12 games, 20 min/g).

Toppin, only played 5 games now and 12mpg. 36% on 14 threes so far.

Haliburton is shooting 51% on his 51 threes so far. Let's call this a big fat MISS for Rosas.

Deni Avdija is shooting 46% on his 35 threes so far. Possibly another miss, athough let's be honest he might look just like Layman/Juancho here. Exact same size and would rarely touch a ball like those guys.

Devin Vassell is shooting 37% on his 30 threes so far. Less stats stuffing across board then I expected already.

Aaron Nesmith only has 5 games and 13 mpg so far but he's struggling at career start.

Saddiq Bey (taken 19th) is shooting 42% on his 62 thress so far. (20 mins/g) MISS for Rosas

Tyrese Maxey is 28% on his 36 threes so far. (as expected)

Immanuel Quickley (taken 25th) is 34% on his 38 threes so far (17 mins/g, 10 ppg, .958 on FT shots)

Desmond Bane (30th pick) is 49% on his 23 threes so far.

Spoiler:

Haliburton and Saddiq bey should have been Wolves. My two Votes in the realGM draft.

Not sure if you meant to imply anything by your Okongwu comment, but he was injured to start the year and just recently became available.

I agree on Bey - I was a big fan of his and thought he should have been top 10. I think it's still too early to say whether he pans out, however.

[Jedzz]

Hey for those Onyeka Okongwu believers in the draft...he's played 14 minutes total so far this season.

Wiseman is shooting 40% from 3 (15 total attempts so far in 12 games, 20 min/g).

Toppin, only played 5 games now and 12mpg. 36% on 14 threes so far.

Haliburton is shooting 51% on his 51 threes so far. Let's call this a big fat MISS for Rosas.

Deni Avdija is shooting 46% on his 35 threes so far. Possibly another miss, athough let's be honest he might look just like Layman/Juancho here. Exact same size and would rarely touch a ball like those guys.

Devin Vassell is shooting 37% on his 30 threes so far. Less stats stuffing across board then I expected already.

Aaron Nesmith only has 5 games and 13 mpg so far but he's struggling at career start.

Saddiq Bey (taken 19th) is shooting 42% on his 62 thress so far. (20 mins/g) MISS for Rosas

Tyrese Maxey is 28% on his 36 threes so far. (as expected)

Immanuel Quickley (taken 25th) is 34% on his 38 threes so far (17 mins/g, 10 ppg, .958 on FT shots)

Desmond Bane (30th pick) is 49% on his 23 threes so far.

Spoiler:

Haliburton and Saddiq bey should have been Wolves. My two Votes in the realGM draft.

Not sure if you meant to imply anything by your Okongwu comment, but he was injured to start the year and just recently became available.

I agree on Bey - I was a big fan of his and thought he should have been top 10. I think it's still too early to say whether he pans out, however.

I did not know what was up with Okongwu so far exactly but i assumed an injury or covid.

[mplsfonz23]

Wish we could start over with Johnson, Covington, Saric, one of Cam Johnson/PJ Wash/Herro, Wiggins, a future 1st, and this past year's first.

Are you saying you still wish we had Wiggins? Or did I read that wrong?

Seeing how bad we are this year and now expecting our pick to land in the middle of the lottery of a very good draft, yes -- I would rather have Wiggins and our pick instead of Russell. If we are going to suck, might as well suck with a lottery pick. It seems clear to me that a team led by Towns and Russell will never sniff the second round of the playoffs, provided we can even make it to the playoffs to begin with.

I was a proponent of the trade at the time. Boy was I wrong. Kudos to Shrink and other who called it at the time as the rest of us were easily reassured to put faith in Rosas base don nothing more than his non-sensical business speak.

The worst part of all this, imo, is that we compounded our mistake by drafting a Wiggins 2.0 in Edwards instead of Ball, who unfortunately plays the same position as Russell.

Oh, OK.
I still like AE over Ball. I could be wro....wrooon......Wrong. But I think without a jumper, Ball will be a better Rubio. Have to admit I have only seen one game of his though. (Plus highlights)
Edwards has something in him, a kind of thirst to be great. We just need to get a coach who can unlock it, and stop trying to fit him into Rosa's 3 point system. Let him drive, and, or kick. Missing 3's makes him passive. Then he gets frustrated and forces things inside.
I say, start the tank. Keep the pick.

[Jedzz]

I say, start the tank. Keep the pick.

So you choose to lose the 2022 pick instead.

[shrink]

Are you saying you still wish we had Wiggins? Or did I read that wrong?

Seeing how bad we are this year and now expecting our pick to land in the middle of the lottery of a very good draft, yes -- I would rather have Wiggins and our pick instead of Russell. If we are going to suck, might as well suck with a lottery pick. It seems clear to me that a team led by Towns and Russell will never sniff the second round of the playoffs, provided we can even make it to the playoffs to begin with.

I was a proponent of the trade at the time. Boy was I wrong. Kudos to Shrink and other who called it at the time as the rest of us were easily reassured to put faith in Rosas base don nothing more than his non-sensical business speak.

The worst part of all this, imo, is that we compounded our mistake by drafting a Wiggins 2.0 in Edwards instead of Ball, who unfortunately plays the same position as Russell.

Oh, OK.
I still like AE over Ball. I could be wro....wrooon......Wrong. But I think without a jumper, Ball will be a better Rubio. Have to admit I have only seen one game of his though. (Plus highlights)
Edwards has something in him, a kind of thirst to be great. We just need to get a coach who can unlock it, and stop trying to fit him into Rosa's 3 point system. Let him drive, and, or kick. Missing 3's makes him passive. Then he gets frustrated and forces things inside

First, kudos to you both for having takes and not hiding from them later when things don’t go the right way, like most internet posters’ norm,

One of my biggest frustrations with making the trade for Russell is that it might have kept us from drafting LaMelo in front of him. There seems to be a huge priority for the Wolves right now is to make players feel happy, and often remove accountability, and I suspect drafting Melo (do we call him that yet?) would have made Russell unhappy, and perhaps make Towns unhappy. I am no draft expert, but many of the ones I listened to had Ball far above the other two as the best chance to be a star. In other words, if the trade turns out to be ...

Russell + Edwards for Wiggins + LaMelo + 2021 MIN 1st

... this could be one of the worst trades in MIN history!

Lastly, I want to qualify that statement just a bit. We don’t know. If the Wolves turn it around, will it be because of the happy happy joy joy attitude? Towns defense has looked much improved this season in a limited sample, and that may be critical to the team going anywhere. Is that because we got rid of Wiggins and the negative team outlook he gave everyone? Did Towns defense improve because of a newfound optimism with DLo here? Maybe because he knew he had to lead the team now that he got what he wanted? We’ll never know. We see an effect, but we don’t know what the cause was. But if you add “+ Makes Towns a Good Defender” into the above trade, it looks a whole lot better.

[Jedzz]

One of my biggest frustrations with making the trade for Russell is that it might have kept us from drafting LaMelo in front of him.

Oh I see, so now Shrink was a Lamello backer all along and that was the reason he didn't want Dlo. Yeah ok. I'll wipe the memory of all the Dlo is terrible because...posts from shrink and replace them all with "we can't draft Dlo because we won't be able to also draft Melo" statements that never existed. Nevermind that they could have drafted LaMelo all they wanted even having Dlo here. They drafted Edwards anyway and all he knows how to do is play Harden point. So obviously it didn't matter.

[shrink]

One of my biggest frustrations with making the trade for Russell is that it might have kept us from drafting LaMelo in front of him.

Oh I see, so now Shrink was a Lamello backer all along and that was the reason he didn't want Dlo. Yeah ok. I'll wipe the memory of all the Dlo is terrible because...posts from shrink and replace them all with "we can't draft Dlo because we won't be able to also draft Melo" statements that never existed. Nevermind that they could have drafted LaMelo all they wanted even having Dlo here. They drafted Edwards anyway and all he knows how to do is play Harden point. So obviously it didn't matter.

Do you know what, “one of” means?

Either you don’t, or you’re intentionally pretending you don’t to troll.

“One of” the reasons I dismiss you is that you are a sad little, attention-seeking child. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t other reasons.

[Jedzz]

One of my biggest frustrations with making the trade for Russell is that it might have kept us from drafting LaMelo in front of him.

Oh I see, so now Shrink was a Lamello backer all along and that was the reason he didn't want Dlo. Yeah ok. I'll wipe the memory of all the Dlo is terrible because...posts from shrink and replace them all with "we can't draft Dlo because we won't be able to also draft Melo" statements that never existed. Nevermind that they could have drafted LaMelo all they wanted even having Dlo here. They drafted Edwards anyway and all he knows how to do is play Harden point. So obviously it didn't matter.

Do you know what, “one of” means?

Either you don’t, or you’re intentionally pretending you don’t to troll.

"one of my biggest frustrations with" surely means there are a few posts on how the dlo trade will wreck your LaMelo hopes. Right? I never noticed them.

Trading for Dlo obviously did not preclude the option to draft LaMello either, given the Edwards choice. Edwards and Culver both displaced Dlo as starting Point in preseason and on opening day this year. Could have been LeMello all the same. Blame Rosas choice if you want.

[shrink]

Oh I see, so now Shrink was a Lamello backer all along and that was the reason he didn't want Dlo. Yeah ok. I'll wipe the memory of all the Dlo is terrible because...posts from shrink and replace them all with "we can't draft Dlo because we won't be able to also draft Melo" statements that never existed. Nevermind that they could have drafted LaMelo all they wanted even having Dlo here. They drafted Edwards anyway and all he knows how to do is play Harden point. So obviously it didn't matter.

Do you know what, “one of” means?

Either you don’t, or you’re intentionally pretending you don’t to troll.

"one of my biggest frustrations with" surely means there are a few posts on how the dlo trade will wreck your LaMelo hopes. Right? I never noticed them.

Trading for Dlo obviously did not preclude the option to draft LaMello either, given the Edwards choice. Edwards and Culver both displaced Dlo as starting Point in preseason and on opening day this year. Could have been LeMello all the same. Blame Rosas choice if you want.

“One of” means there are more. It does not mean, “erase your brain of all other reasons he listed.” As YOU CHOSE to write.

Grow up, or find a kid’s forum that thrives on kiddies trolling kiddies.

[clyde21]

For people saying Wiseman and Ball are better right now because of their situations. Wiseman plays with Steph and Dryamond, he'll learn things way faster with them in his ear everyday. Ball plays in a rotation that fit his style of play of passing (Bridges, Biyombo, Hayward). Edwards looks lost and uninterested at times because he doesn't know what to do at times and isn't allowed to make mistakes like other rookies.

i'm not sure Wiseman has been better, Wiseman has been pretty unplayable so far.

[Jedzz]

Do you know what, “one of” means?

Either you don’t, or you’re intentionally pretending you don’t to troll.

"one of my biggest frustrations with" surely means there are a few posts on how the dlo trade will wreck your LaMelo hopes. Right? I never noticed them.

Trading for Dlo obviously did not preclude the option to draft LaMello either, given the Edwards choice. Edwards and Culver both displaced Dlo as starting Point in preseason and on opening day this year. Could have been LeMello all the same. Blame Rosas choice if you want.

“One of” means there are more. It does not mean, “erase your brain of all other reasons he listed.” As YOU CHOSE to write.

Grow up, or find a kid’s forum that thrives on kiddies trolling kiddies.

Come on man. Where do you think my post comes from asking for more than just after the fact LaMello claims? That's what I'm doing. I'm asking if this is just another after the fact thought now that LaMello had a decent 10-12 game start being passed off as one of your "biggest frustrations" with the Dlo trade. I never said you didn't have others. I said I never knew one of your biggest frustrations with the Dlo choice was how it would ruin your LaMello hopes here. That might have changed my views on your tunneled vision takes at the time that were loaded with cherry picked stats and jaded thoughts on Dlos worst moments without looking at anything positive. You were tunnel visioned and adament about saying how much you disliked the plan for him here. I don't mind strong stances on something, in fact I hope to read more of them. As long as they are objective. But during all the time leading up to Dlo and after you didn't seem objective at all to me. Adding this thought about impact on future draft selection options might have widened your stance at the time and gave me more reason to listen. I didn't see that though.

As far as I knew this just wasn't the case before or after the Dlo trade. I'm giving you the chance to say you actually did and rub my nose in not remembering it.

So why should I ask? Maybe it was your passive aggressive shot at any of us posting here with a claim about people are not sticking by their prior stances. This one:

First, kudos to you both for having takes and not hiding from them later when things don’t go the right way, like most internet posters’ norm,

I don't think most internet posters do that. Some have. Yes I usually do respond to such statements.

Isn't taking credit for takes you never had on the same level?

I had plenty of posts why I didn't think LaMello was worth the risk and one of the many posted included how it would impact Dlo who already had one of his former teams draft a Ball after they had him. A couple heard me out. Most didn't, or disagreed. Some even said who cares and to draft him anyway because he's a natual passer/ball skills player and bpa according to some draft experts. If he continues to impress for years those people will deserve credit for their takes! I don't remember a shrink post agreeing with me that now that we have Dlo that it's no longer a good idea to choose him. Maybe you wanted to.

Kudos to those that are not passive aggressive. I think the reality is trading for Dlo was not what stopped Rosas from drafting him. I think he's much like some of the posters that said they would draft the BPA as he saw it. That's why he didn't care what drafting Edwards after Culver after all the guards we had would do to our team. That's the important point to discuss if you ask me.