2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon

[LibertyPrime]

A little surprised to hear so little over trading up for Duren, especially with several posters wanting to draft Wiseman a couple years ago.

We Wised up.

Seriously, though, one of the centers will be available at #19.

[KGdaBom]

Losing McDaniels is hard. I feel like he's going to break out soon. He fits so perfectly w/ Ant too because they can go big w/ them at the wings, or fast as the forwards.

I'm not saying I want to move McDaniels, but what else do we have? No combination of Reid, Nowell and 2nd round picks is going to move us from #19 into the Top 10.

I'm just trying to throw out a realistic option if people are dead set on moving up that far.

I assume we could also deal our 2023 FRP.
Perhaps there is a team or two that have roster spot issues that would be interested in selling a late FRP or swapping it for a couple of our 2nds. I would think #19 plus a late 2022 FRP plus a 2023 FRP would generate a lot of interest.

No thanks on trading any more future FRPs. I'm sick of it.

[Klomp]

I'm going to speak it into existence.

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[NebWolvesFan]

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Williams seems to be falling. I think he will be a two-way contract guy and considering Minnesota has three second-round picks, I can't see the Timberwolves getting any of the "almost got drafted" guys this year.

[Devilzsidewalk]

I'm not saying I want to move McDaniels, but what else do we have? No combination of Reid, Nowell and 2nd round picks is going to move us from #19 into the Top 10.

I'm just trying to throw out a realistic option if people are dead set on moving up that far.

I assume we could also deal our 2023 FRP.
Perhaps there is a team or two that have roster spot issues that would be interested in selling a late FRP or swapping it for a couple of our 2nds. I would think #19 plus a late 2022 FRP plus a 2023 FRP would generate a lot of interest.

No thanks on trading any more future FRPs. I'm sick of it.

Me too in general, but I'd definitely make an exception for a couple guys. Duren for one, and I'd also love Ivey, but he sounds like he's gonna go pretty high.

[Klomp]

Williams seems to be falling. I think he will be a two-way contract guy and considering Minnesota has three second-round picks, I can't see the Timberwolves getting any of the "almost got drafted" guys this year.

Teams have previously signed second rounders to two-way deals. If we don't stash or trade, I wouldn't be surprised with that outcome with a pick or two.

Worth noting, both of our two-way slots are open....

[Norseman79]

Let's not rip Wiseman too badly yet. He had growing to do, but showed some potential his rookie year. The injury wasn't his fault.

Duren is a different beast. He has a motor that runs hot and is a less offensive skilled Bam. Duren has shown a mid range jumper. If he can be a 7ft Vando that can hit a 15' and finished better around the rim, that's a huge win for us. Wiseman was capable of power, but seemed to have more finesse to him, Duren is raw power.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Williams seems to be falling. I think he will be a two-way contract guy and considering Minnesota has three second-round picks, I can't see the Timberwolves getting any of the "almost got drafted" guys this year.

Teams have previously signed second rounders to two-way deals. If we don't stash or trade, I wouldn't be surprised with that outcome with a pick or two.

Worth noting, both of our two-way slots are open....

I wonder how many of the seconds they keep. I was thinking they'd probably like to trade one for a future second or use in a trade-up, and eurostash one. It's a shame, b/c I actually think you could potentially pull multiple viable players from this draft - seems like intriguing depth into the mid 2nd, but I think we're already at...11 guaranteed? Might be off by one. Might be asking a lot to fill out the roster with 2nd rounders.

I'd probably trade Bolmaro for a future second if the opportunity presented itself just to free up a roster spot. Maybe I'm giving up on him too soon, but I don't see the upside at the moment. 2nd round pick seems more valuable at the moment. I see guys like Davison and Jabari Walker mocked in the mid 2nd, and I'd rather have them at the moment.

sorry, I didn't mean to keep saying "at the moment".

[Krapinsky]

Glad I'm not the only Duren fan on this board. If I were the Pistons I'd take him at 5.

[wolves_89]

Glad I'm not the only Duren fan on this board. If I were the Pistons I'd take him at 5.

You're not the only fan of Duren, I just expect him to be well out of reach of the Wolves going in the 9-11 range in the draft. I don't see any good ways for Connelly to move up that far.

[Biff Cooper]

I assume we could also deal our 2023 FRP.
Perhaps there is a team or two that have roster spot issues that would be interested in selling a late FRP or swapping it for a couple of our 2nds. I would think #19 plus a late 2022 FRP plus a 2023 FRP would generate a lot of interest.

No thanks on trading any more future FRPs. I'm sick of it.

Me too in general, but I'd definitely make an exception for a couple guys. Duren for one, and I'd also love Ivey, but he sounds like he's gonna go pretty high.

Yeah - to me the fit of Duren is too good to not consider it. Nobody wants to give up a future first. Not only do you give up that first, but you also lose the flexibility to make a deal for the 2024 first. However, If I haven't said it, I want the Wolves to come out of this draft with either Jalen Duren or Mark Williams. If the price is too high for one of them, maybe you can get the other for less. I'm willing to put the 2023 FRP on the table if necessary, and if it means we can keep McDaniels.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Watched some Jaylin (not Jalen) Williams vids, and he's really interesting too. He's got enough mobility and some potential shooting touch to where he might be able to play with either KAT or Vando. Outstanding defensive rebounder. Smart defender he has good positioning and he's also apparently like the greatest NCAA charge-takers in history, which is kinda silly, but you still have to count that as basically like a steal.

https://www.sportscasting.com/5-ncaa-basketball-records-that-will-never-be-broken/

Shane Battier took 111 charges in his time at Duke under Coach K, which is a school record.

So far this season, Williams has taken 44 charges, which is more than the Razorbacks have taken as a team in two of the five previous seasons in which the program has counted this statistic.

So noted NBA elite charge-taker Shane Battier had 111 charges in 4 years, and Williams had 44 in one year lol.


It seems like his main weakness is creating offense for himself, but we wouldn't even want that from him. Set screens, play defense, and take open jumpers, that's it. Sounds like that game is right up his alley.

He had really uninspiring combine measurements, so seems like a reasonable chance he'll be around mid 2nd.

[Mattya]

Watched some Jaylin (not Jalen) Williams vids, and he's really interesting too. He's got enough mobility and some potential shooting touch to where he might be able to play with either KAT or Vando. Outstanding defensive rebounder. Smart defender he has good positioning and he's also apparently like the greatest NCAA charge-takers in history, which is kinda silly, but you still have to count that as basically like a steal.

https://www.sportscasting.com/5-ncaa-basketball-records-that-will-never-be-broken/

Shane Battier took 111 charges in his time at Duke under Coach K, which is a school record.

So far this season, Williams has taken 44 charges, which is more than the Razorbacks have taken as a team in two of the five previous seasons in which the program has counted this statistic.

So noted NBA elite charge-taker Shane Battier had 111 charges in 4 years, and Williams had 44 in one year lol.


It seems like his main weakness is creating offense for himself, but we wouldn't even want that from him. Set screens, play defense, and take open jumpers, that's it. Sounds like that game is right up his alley.

He had really uninspiring combine measurements, so seems like a reasonable chance he'll be around mid 2nd.

He definitely gets the benefit of the doubt on a lot of those charge calls that I don’t think he will get nearly as much in the NBA, but he does have the instincts to make those plays which imo is a great IQ test.

[Krapinsky]

Watched some Jaylin (not Jalen) Williams vids, and he's really interesting too. He's got enough mobility and some potential shooting touch to where he might be able to play with either KAT or Vando. Outstanding defensive rebounder. Smart defender he has good positioning and he's also apparently like the greatest NCAA charge-takers in history, which is kinda silly, but you still have to count that as basically like a steal.

https://www.sportscasting.com/5-ncaa-basketball-records-that-will-never-be-broken/

Shane Battier took 111 charges in his time at Duke under Coach K, which is a school record.

So far this season, Williams has taken 44 charges, which is more than the Razorbacks have taken as a team in two of the five previous seasons in which the program has counted this statistic.

So noted NBA elite charge-taker Shane Battier had 111 charges in 4 years, and Williams had 44 in one year lol.


It seems like his main weakness is creating offense for himself, but we wouldn't even want that from him. Set screens, play defense, and take open jumpers, that's it. Sounds like that game is right up his alley.

He had really uninspiring combine measurements, so seems like a reasonable chance he'll be around mid 2nd.

I like him too. I think he had the slowest shuttle time or something, but if he's taking that many charges then he must have pretty good lateral quickness.

[KGdaBom]

There are at least 3 Jalen/Jaylin/ or some kind of spelling of it expected to be drafted this year. Also a Jaden. What is up with that name.

[Klomp]

There are at least 3 Jalen/Jaylin/ or some kind of spelling of it expected to be drafted this year. Also a Jaden. What is up with that name.

Jalen Rose's NBA breakout in 1999-00.

[Klomp]

Williams seems to be falling. I think he will be a two-way contract guy and considering Minnesota has three second-round picks, I can't see the Timberwolves getting any of the "almost got drafted" guys this year.

Teams have previously signed second rounders to two-way deals. If we don't stash or trade, I wouldn't be surprised with that outcome with a pick or two.

Worth noting, both of our two-way slots are open....

Also worth noting that with the current contract situation for the franchise, proving your worth on a 2-way could be a sneaky way to get onto a playoff team on the rise next summer. 11 guaranteed contracts right now plus FA and draft going into 2022-23, but only 3 guaranteed for 2023-24 (technically only Towns, but counting Ant and Jaden as locked in).

[KGdaBom]

There are at least 3 Jalen/Jaylin/ or some kind of spelling of it expected to be drafted this year. Also a Jaden. What is up with that name.

Jalen Rose's NBA breakout in 1999-00.

He wasn't very good. Right now we got Jalen Brown or is it Jaylen Brown or is it Jalin Brown or is it ??????????
i looked it up. Jaylen.

[Klomp]

There are at least 3 Jalen/Jaylin/ or some kind of spelling of it expected to be drafted this year. Also a Jaden. What is up with that name.

Jalen Rose's NBA breakout in 1999-00.

He wasn't very good.

Look up any baby name sites online and he's the one credited for the name's beginnings.

The sudden usage of this name was influenced by University of Michigan basketball star Jalen Rose in the early 1990s when he was a part of the “Fab Five” college basketball elite, leading the Wolverines to the NCAA Championship games in 1992 and 1993. He was the team’s leader, point guard and highest scorer; Jalen would go on to play professionally from 1994 to 2007 (most notably for the Indiana Pacers). Apparently, Jalen Rose received his name through the combination of his father’s name (James) and his mother’s brother’s name (Leonard).

[shangrila]

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There you go Krap.

Not a bad list outside of Williams either. I'm not real keen on McGowens but Braun looks like a solid 3&D guy and Seabron is an interesting weirdo.