2025 Summer League

[winforlose]

This is goofy. They got some kind of points system and Detroit has 8 points to our 6.5. They are in 2nd and we are in 9th.

Here is a better resource

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-2k25-summer-league-format-summary

Then WTF is this points system?

All I know is ESPN has a glossary/legend at the bottom and it says Quarter points. I have no idea what that means.

[KGdaBom]

Here is a better resource

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-2k25-summer-league-format-summary

Then WTF is this points system?

All I know is ESPN has a glossary/legend at the bottom and it says Quarter points. I have no idea what that means.

I would guess it's how many Quarters you outscored the opponent. If they did it 10 times and lost 2 quarters that would be a 10-2 record by quarters or a net +8. Not sure how the math works for our 6.5 points.

[winforlose]

Then WTF is this points system?

All I know is ESPN has a glossary/legend at the bottom and it says Quarter points. I have no idea what that means.

I would guess it's how many Quarters you outscored the opponent. If they did it 10 times and lost 2 quarters that would be a 10-2 record by quarters or a net +8. Not sure how the math works for our 6.5 points.

Half could reflect a tie. We could check by using NBA.com game logs.

Edit to add: confirmed

We won 1 tied 1 in game 1. Won 3 in game 2, and 2 today.

[jpatrick]

TSJ and Beringer have been great. Beringer is highly dependent on others for his offense, which makes it tough in a summer league setting, especially on a team that has little spacing. TSJ may be the best player in this entire tournament.

The rest. Not great.

Miller is not an NBA player. Not now at least.

Clark has been the most disappointing guy for me. He has been horrific offensively. Shooting, dribbling, decision making, all terrible. I was expecting a leap. Instead, he’s regressed to how he shot prior to last year. If he’s a 25% shooter on open threes, he’s unplayable. You can’t have a zero offense wing in the current NBA.

I’ve never been a Dilly fan. I just don’t see it and this summer league has shown all his weaknesses. I don’t see how you go into the year with him as the backup PG.

Rocco. Maybe down the road. Right now he is not good at all. Skill wise. Athletically. BBIQ. Edwards is significantly better than him in all ways (also much older).

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I think Clark is the hardest argument for minutes. TSJ has run circles around him. Finch said the rotation will be 9 or 10 deep. If you look at positions of need, 9 should be JB, and 10 should be Dilly. Then again, Dilly looks like he would struggle in Iowa, so maybe start him there?

If Dilly isn’t ready for 20+ minutes we better find a way to pull a rabbit out of our hat … mike is a 10-15 minute vet moving forward.

I suspect Mike can pull of 20-25, but maybe not at the level we want.

Disagree. I bet that Mike will be much better than last year at the beginning for the season. But i agree that he should not play more than 20-24 min which let a lot of min for Rob. If Rob is not ready, then we will have a problem. DDV is not a PG.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

TSJ and Beringer have been great. Beringer is highly dependent on others for his offense, which makes it tough in a summer league setting, especially on a team that has little spacing. TSJ may be the best player in this entire tournament.

The rest. Not great.

Miller is not an NBA player. Not now at least.

Clark has been the most disappointing guy for me. He has been horrific offensively. Shooting, dribbling, decision making, all terrible. I was expecting a leap. Instead, he’s regressed to how he shot prior to last year. If he’s a 25% shooter on open threes, he’s unplayable. You can’t have a zero offense wing in the current NBA.

I’ve never been a Dilly fan. I just don’t see it and this summer league has shown all his weaknesses. I don’t see how you go into the year with him as the backup PG.

Rocco. Maybe down the road. Right now he is not good at all. Skill wise. Athletically. BBIQ. Edwards is significantly better than him in all ways (also much older).

Just watch the replay and you write it perfectly!

[Klomp]

Jed with a team high +21 is crazy to me. I didn’t check the box till the end, and that was the biggest surprise.

JB showed his weakest aspect of his game. The thing they need to help him develop is the defense against the downhill drive. Most of his fouls came off the drive or adjusting to the pass after it. This is not a criticism, just an observation.

Dilly going 7 of 17 from the field for 16 points puts him at 17 of 46 for 46 points. Dilly is shooting 36.96% from the field and 35.29% from 2. Dilly also had 4 ASTs and 4 TOs in this game. He is now at 19/13 AST/TO or 1.46 assists per turnover.

If I was HC I would move Clark to 13th man based on his performance thus far. He might climb back up, but he looked bad in all 3 games IMO.

BTW Jed is honestly the dumbest nickname I've seen on RealGM in the last three weeks, and I've seen a lot of dumb nicknames suggested.

[Klomp]

Here is a better resource

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-2k25-summer-league-format-summary

Then WTF is this points system?

All I know is ESPN has a glossary/legend at the bottom and it says Quarter points. I have no idea what that means.

I'm pretty sure the league used to use quarters won as one of the tiebreakers. But I'm pretty sure that was ditched a few summers ago.

[KGdaBom]

If the quarters points is a net you can't get a half point even with ties. A tie is half a win and half a loss. They negate each other and become a net zero. If it's just an accumulation of quarters won then a half point would be possible, but have the Wolves in going 3-0 only won 6 quarters with one tie? that would mean we've lost 5 quarters.

[Klomp]

If the quarters points is a net you can't get a half point even with ties. A tie is half a win and half a loss. They negate each other and become a net zero. If it's just an accumulation of quarters won then a half point would be possible, but have the Wolves in going 3-0 only won 6 quarters with one tie? that would mean we've lost 5 quarters.

Oh brother.....

1 point for a win
0 point for a loss
0.5 point for a tie.

Sometimes, you make things a lot more complicated than they actually are.

[Klomp]

We are currently 5th in point differential out of the eight 3-0 teams

[Sealab2024]

I'd be comfortable going 4-0 and not making a silly summer league playoff. There's nothing to be gained and plenty to lose.

[Klomp]

Breakdown of the current point differentials and final matchups before tournament play
Raptors 23.5 (44, 3, 4) vs. Warriors (1-1)
Spurs 16.7 (41, 7, 2) vs. Hornets (3-0)
Thunder 15.0 (9, 19, 17) vs. Pelicans (0-2)
Kings 12.7 (3, 17, 18) vs. Cavaliers (2-1)
Timberwolves 11.3 (7, 11, 16) vs. Suns (1-2)
Hawks 9.3 (7, 18, 3) vs. Grizzlies (1-1)
Clippers 9.0 (3, 15, 9) vs. Nuggets (0-3)
Hornets 8.7 (6, 2, 18) vs. Spurs (3-0)

[KGdaBom]

If the quarters points is a net you can't get a half point even with ties. A tie is half a win and half a loss. They negate each other and become a net zero. If it's just an accumulation of quarters won then a half point would be possible, but have the Wolves in going 3-0 only won 6 quarters with one tie? that would mean we've lost 5 quarters.

Oh brother.....

1 point for a win
0 point for a loss
0.5 point for a tie.

Sometimes, you make things a lot more complicated than they actually are.

Yes I went over the possibility of it being accumulative and not net. In that case to get 6.5 points as I described we would have to win 6 quarters, tie one quarter and lose 5 quarters. It seems to me that in going 3-0 we would have won more than 6 quarters, but maybe that is what happened.

[Klomp]

If the quarters points is a net you can't get a half point even with ties. A tie is half a win and half a loss. They negate each other and become a net zero. If it's just an accumulation of quarters won then a half point would be possible, but have the Wolves in going 3-0 only won 6 quarters with one tie? that would mean we've lost 5 quarters.

Oh brother.....

1 point for a win
0 point for a loss
0.5 point for a tie.

Sometimes, you make things a lot more complicated than they actually are.

Yes I went over the possibility of it being accumulative and not net. In that case to get 6.5 points as I described we would have to win 6 quarters, tie one quarter and lose 5 quarters. It seems to me that in going 3-0 we would have won more than 6 quarters, but maybe that is what happened.

Game 1: 1 win, 1 tie
Game 2: 3 wins, 0 ties
Game 3: 2 wins, 0 ties

[KGdaBom]

I'd be comfortable going 4-0 and not making a silly summer league playoff. There's nothing to be gained and plenty to lose.

I like winning. So I want us to play two extra games and win the SL title. There are 82 games and however many practices where players can get injured also. Plus preseason games, falling in the shower, getting injured in an auto accident. I'm not going to be worried about injuries in an extra SL game. There's one additional SL game for the teams that don't make the playoff anyway.

[KGdaBom]

Oh brother.....

1 point for a win
0 point for a loss
0.5 point for a tie.

Sometimes, you make things a lot more complicated than they actually are.

Yes I went over the possibility of it being accumulative and not net. In that case to get 6.5 points as I described we would have to win 6 quarters, tie one quarter and lose 5 quarters. It seems to me that in going 3-0 we would have won more than 6 quarters, but maybe that is what happened.

Game 1: 1 win, 1 tie
Game 2: 3 wins, 0 ties
Game 3: 2 wins, 0 ties

I take it that's what happened. So we won the quarters we won bigger than we lost the quarters we lost.

[Loaf_of_bread]

Tsj and jaylen are too good for SL. See no positives of them there.

[KGdaBom]

Tsj and jaylen are too good for SL. See no positives of them there.

Jaylen who? Williams of OKC?

[Shaka_Zulu]

Tsj and jaylen are too good for SL. See no positives of them there.

Clark has been supbar and dissapointing. Expected him to show out and show he is too good for SL like TS jr has, even if he lacks TSjr offensive game. It been sad to see him miss so much corner shots and be awkward and turnover prone with the ball.


This is not how you fight for NAWs minutes.



Dillingham being underwhelming was predictable, so nothing shocking there. Really underwhelming talent.