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Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#61 » by ctl131 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:11 am

urinesane wrote:A fan's opinion on Rubio is a good litmus test for their basketball knowledge.

If you think Rubio is mediocre or bad you are 99.5% likely to be an idiot.


Great passer, horrible shooter, pretty good defender, below average athlete by NBA standards. His ability to run an offense makes him slightly better than mediocre, but nothing more than that. He's good for a team like Minnesota that has 3 other guys that can score, but if you put him in a team where he would need to score to help them win, he would struggle. If you need to have the perfect situation for you to be considered good, you really aren't a great player.
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Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#62 » by Quentin » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:26 am

ctl131 wrote:
urinesane wrote:A fan's opinion on Rubio is a good litmus test for their basketball knowledge.

If you think Rubio is mediocre or bad you are 99.5% likely to be an idiot.


Great passer, horrible shooter, pretty good defender, below average athlete by NBA standards. His ability to run an offense makes him slightly better than mediocre, but nothing more than that. He's good for a team like Minnesota that has 3 other guys that can score, but if you put him in a team where he would need to score to help them win, he would struggle. If you need to have the perfect situation for you to be considered good, you really aren't a great player.


Yep.
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Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#63 » by guest81 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:46 am

ctl131 wrote:
urinesane wrote:A fan's opinion on Rubio is a good litmus test for their basketball knowledge.

If you think Rubio is mediocre or bad you are 99.5% likely to be an idiot.


Great passer, horrible shooter, pretty good defender, below average athlete by NBA standards. His ability to run an offense makes him slightly better than mediocre, but nothing more than that. He's good for a team like Minnesota that has 3 other guys that can score, but if you put him in a team where he would need to score to help them win, he would struggle. If you need to have the perfect situation for you to be considered good, you really aren't a great player.


Oh man your well articulated breakdown of Rubio's game makes you an idiot apartently, sorry to break it to you friend
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Re: RE: Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#64 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:23 am

ctl131 wrote:
urinesane wrote:A fan's opinion on Rubio is a good litmus test for their basketball knowledge.

If you think Rubio is mediocre or bad you are 99.5% likely to be an idiot.


Great passer, horrible shooter, pretty good defender, below average athlete by NBA standards. His ability to run an offense makes him slightly better than mediocre, but nothing more than that. He's good for a team like Minnesota that has 3 other guys that can score, but if you put him in a team where he would need to score to help them win, he would struggle. If you need to have the perfect situation for you to be considered good, you really aren't a great player.


And still nobody can explain why in 6 years we always were a lot worse without Rubio on the floor, even with Kevin Loves, Kevin Martins, Pek etc etc etc on the floor.

His ability to run an offense makes him slightly better than mediocre but nothing more than that, yet, with him on the floor every single season we have of the best offensive ratings. Without him, oh boy, you don't want to know.
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Re: RE: Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#65 » by Klomp » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:26 am

mercgold3 wrote:And still nobody can explain why in 6 years we always were a lot worse without Rubio on the floor, even with Kevin Loves, Kevin Martins, Pek etc etc etc

Look at the backup PGs through the years. There's your answer.

3-3 without him this season.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#66 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:36 am

Klomp wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:And still nobody can explain why in 6 years we always were a lot worse without Rubio on the floor, even with Kevin Loves, Kevin Martins, Pek etc etc etc

Look at the backup PGs through the years. There's your answer.

3-3 without him this season.


And 4-0 without Zach. What is your take on that ?
Great wins this past week, but let's be real, was against a Clippers team without Paul and Griffin, Denver with Nelson starting and we barely won. Impressive were the wins against the Rockets and OKC, that was impressive and who was the best or second best player of those game, yes, was Ricky running the show.

I love Dunn defense and i'm big fan of Tyus, but let's not forget that just a few weeks ago, Dunn for example was the big reason we lost the lead in San Antonio after 3 great quarters.
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Post#67 » by walk with me » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:45 am

mercgold3 wrote:


And 4-0 without Zach. What is your take on that ?




why do you always deflect to zach levine? What's your deal. It's like you try to push the blame from ricky to zach. not to say People who blame ricky are 100% right but why do you do this? What's your fix on zach?
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Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#68 » by walk with me » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:53 am

urinesane wrote:A fan's opinion on Rubio is a good litmus test for their basketball knowledge.

If you think Rubio is mediocre or bad you are 99.5% likely to be an idiot.


so where do you rank ricky amongst NBA PGs?

1-5?
6-10?
11-15?
16-20?
21-25?
below 25?

I'm curious since i'm assuming youre not in the "idiot" crowd. I'd actually be happy to see everyone's opinion on this one. and this isn't a what he does for minnesota question. This is a.... if you could pick any PG for a team from 1-30 (or lower) where would you rank ricky....
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Post#69 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:58 am

walk with me wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:


And 4-0 without Zach. What is your take on that ?




why do you always deflect to zach levine? What's your deal. It's like you try to push the blame from ricky to zach. not to say People who blame ricky are 100% right but why do you do this? What's your fix on zach?

Because. People like to bring the 3-3 record without Ricky to make a point forgetting of how good we played (the best basketball we showed so far) with Ricky on the team just a few weeks ago. Saying that we are better without Ricky is absolutely ridiculous.
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Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#70 » by Hellcrooner » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:00 am

I think these are the teams that may/wil make a Run at a Ricky Trade.
What would they want from them? What makes more sense for Minnie? some of them dont have much to offer, specially if they want him for a back up position

Knicks
Sixers
Nets

Heat
Magic

Bulls
Pistons
Bucks
Cavs


Lakers
Kings

Spurs
Mavs
Rockets
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Post#71 » by walk with me » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:03 am

mercgold3 wrote:Because. People like to bring the 3-3 record without Ricky to make a point forgetting of how good we played (the best basketball we showed so far) with Ricky on the team just a few weeks ago. Saying that we are better without Ricky is absolutely ridiculous.


I hate those stats so I pay them no mind but let's try to put your comments into context

"Saying we are better without Ricky is absolutely ridiculous"

Do you mean without him at all. Leaving the team with 13 players or do you mean there are not available PGs in the nba right now that can make the Timberwolves a better team?
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Post#72 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:15 am

walk with me wrote:I hate those stats so I pay them no mind but let's try to put your comments into context

"Saying we are better without Ricky is absolutely ridiculous"

Do you mean without him at all. Leaving the team with 13 players or do you mean there are not available PGs in the nba right now that can make the Timberwolves a better team?

I mean without him at all. With Dunn and Tyus getting the minutes.
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Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#73 » by guest81 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:16 am

walk with me wrote:
urinesane wrote:A fan's opinion on Rubio is a good litmus test for their basketball knowledge.

If you think Rubio is mediocre or bad you are 99.5% likely to be an idiot.


so where do you rank ricky amongst NBA PGs?

1-5?
6-10?
11-15?
16-20?
21-25?
below 25?

I'm curious since i'm assuming youre not in the "idiot" crowd. I'd actually be happy to see everyone's opinion on this one. and this isn't a what he does for minnesota question. This is a.... if you could pick any PG for a team from 1-30 (or lower) where would you rank ricky....


He has Ricky in the top 5.
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Re: RE: Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#74 » by guest81 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:17 am

mercgold3 wrote:
ctl131 wrote:
urinesane wrote:A fan's opinion on Rubio is a good litmus test for their basketball knowledge.

If you think Rubio is mediocre or bad you are 99.5% likely to be an idiot.


Great passer, horrible shooter, pretty good defender, below average athlete by NBA standards. His ability to run an offense makes him slightly better than mediocre, but nothing more than that. He's good for a team like Minnesota that has 3 other guys that can score, but if you put him in a team where he would need to score to help them win, he would struggle. If you need to have the perfect situation for you to be considered good, you really aren't a great player.


And still nobody can explain why in 6 years we always were a lot worse without Rubio on the floor, even with Kevin Loves, Kevin Martins, Pek etc etc etc on the floor.

His ability to run an offense makes him slightly better than mediocre but nothing more than that, yet, with him on the floor every single season we have of the best offensive ratings. Without him, oh boy, you don't want to know.


They weren't good with him either. Wolves have been a bottom 3 team during Ricky's tenure
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Post#75 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:31 am

guest81 wrote:They weren't good with him either. Wolves have been a bottom 3 team during Ricky's tenure

Before this season started...

114-164 when he plays
28-88 when he doesn't

That is pretty damn good if you take into acount the awful roster's in this past 6 years.
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Post#76 » by guest81 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:41 am

mercgold3 wrote:
guest81 wrote:They weren't good with him either. Wolves have been a bottom 3 team during Ricky's tenure

Before this season started...

114-164 when he plays
28-88 when he doesn't

That is pretty damn good if you take into acount the awful roster's in this past 6 years.


compare that 114-164 record to any other starting point guard. Pretty sure it's still bottom.

Also players Ricky has played with
Kevin Love
Pek
Kevin Martin
KAT
Wiggins
Lavine
KG
Dieng
Corey Brewer
AK47


If that's a pretty damn good record, your standards are way too low. In a league where half the teams make it into the playoffs every year, no Rubio team has come close to sniffing the playoffs
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Post#77 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:44 am

guest81 wrote:
compare that 114-164 record to any other starting point guard. Pretty sure it's still bottom.

Also players Ricky has played with
Kevin Love
Pek
Kevin Martin
KAT
Wiggins
Lavine
KG
Dieng
Corey Brewer
AK47


If that's a pretty damn good record, your standards are way too low. In a league where half the teams make it into the playoffs every year, no Rubio team has come close to sniffing the playoffs


I see, "Rubio team"
Do you wanna compare "Kevin Love team" record without Rubio on the floor ?
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Post#78 » by guest81 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:45 am

mercgold3 wrote:
guest81 wrote:
compare that 114-164 record to any other starting point guard. Pretty sure it's still bottom.

Also players Ricky has played with
Kevin Love
Pek
Kevin Martin
KAT
Wiggins
Lavine
KG
Dieng
Corey Brewer
AK47


If that's a pretty damn good record, your standards are way too low. In a league where half the teams make it into the playoffs every year, no Rubio team has come close to sniffing the playoffs


I see, "Rubio team"
Do you wanna compare "Kevin Love team" record without Rubio on the floor ?


What does Kevin Love have to do with anything?
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Ricky Rubio #9 

Post#79 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:49 am

guest81 wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
guest81 wrote:
compare that 114-164 record to any other starting point guard. Pretty sure it's still bottom.

Also players Ricky has played with
Kevin Love
Pek
Kevin Martin
KAT
Wiggins
Lavine
KG
Dieng
Corey Brewer
AK47


If that's a pretty damn good record, your standards are way too low. In a league where half the teams make it into the playoffs every year, no Rubio team has come close to sniffing the playoffs


I see, "Rubio team"
Do you wanna compare "Kevin Love team" record without Rubio on the floor ?


What does Kevin Love have to do with anything?


Because you said no Rubio team has come close to sniffing the playoffs, the same applies for Kevin Love. And yet, you sound like everything that went wrong this past 6 years is only beacause of Rubio.
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Post#80 » by guest81 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:52 am

mercgold3 wrote:
guest81 wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
I see, "Rubio team"
Do you wanna compare "Kevin Love team" record without Rubio on the floor ?


What does Kevin Love have to do with anything?


Because you said no Rubio team has come close to sniffing the playoffs, the same applies for Kevin Love. And yet, you sound like everything that went wrong this past 6 years is only beacause of Rubio.


I thought we were comparing Ricky to other point guards. Last I checked Love isn't a point guard. Also I've always said it isn't all Rubio's fault, but also Ricky has been the only constant since he's been here. Again, I don't why if you criticize him, you think that that means your blaming him 100%. On the other side though, there are fans who think Ricky has zero blame in the Wolves losing

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