The Jarrett Culver Thread

[TheProdigy]

I hope you're right though. Would be pretty cool if we had a guy that had more ups than Vince Carter or Zach LaVine.

Last I checked, 45 is less than 46.

For all the question marks that follow him as he treks his way through pre-draft workouts, UCLA freshman guard Zach LaVine strongly showcased something that has become awfully familiar.

The guy can jump. Very high. So high that he set a Lakers pre-draft workout record on Wednesday with a 46-inch vertical jump.

http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2014/06/04/nba-draft-zach-lavine-sets-lakers-workout-record-with-46-inch-vertical/

You're right, I forgot about the private workout vertical. I was thinking of the 41.5 inch vertical he had at the combine. Ironically, this backs up the point I've been making about unreliable private workout measurements.

https://www.nbadraft.net/2014-nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis

[KGdaBom]

More I watch his workout/highlights more I like his skills set.

1) I am very surprised that even with that jumping ability he relies on his ballhandling and body control to score. I like that he uses more his agility and quickness.

2) his body is still growing and he does not have a strong upper and lower body yet. I am thrilled to see what he can do once his body matures. And I have high hopes that he will develop Butler like body because he has thick, strong legs.

3) his shoot is not pretty, is not consistent. But it is fixable. Better footwork, better timing and repetition will make him an average shooter.

4) it is hard to evaluate his individual defense. But he has all tools to become a serviceable team defender within a smart defensive scheme. He can switch between 1-2-3. I can't see him a lockdown defender, more like Danny Green type.

I believe he was considered one of the three best defenders in college ball along with Hunter and Clarke. However, shouldn't Zion be considered.

[KGdaBom]

I hope you're right though. Would be pretty cool if we had a guy that had more ups than Vince Carter or Zach LaVine.

Last I checked, 45 is less than 46.

For all the question marks that follow him as he treks his way through pre-draft workouts, UCLA freshman guard Zach LaVine strongly showcased something that has become awfully familiar.

The guy can jump. Very high. So high that he set a Lakers pre-draft workout record on Wednesday with a 46-inch vertical jump.

http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2014/06/04/nba-draft-zach-lavine-sets-lakers-workout-record-with-46-inch-vertical/

You're right, I forgot about the private workout vertical. I was thinking of the 41.5 inch vertical he had at the combine. Ironically, this backs up the point I've been making about unreliable private workout measurements.

https://www.nbadraft.net/2014-nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis

I believe Zach at 46 without a moments hesitation.

[Klomp]

I think a guy he has a lot of similarities to is Andre Iguodala. Iggy was a little bit thicker coming into the league though.

[Klomp]

You're right, I forgot about the private workout vertical. I was thinking of the 41.5 inch vertical he had at the combine. Ironically, this backs up the point I've been making about unreliable private workout measurements.

https://www.nbadraft.net/2014-nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis

I don't know that I would call them unreliable. It's not like they're making up fake measurements. The thing to remember is that the combine is a lot more strict about how many steps they can make before taking off.

[mandurugo]

I don't think it matters too much how good his closed gym measurements are. As has been pointed out by several people already, if you simply watch his game footage or even his highlight reels it's clear he's pretty much an average NBA athlete, with no indications of unusual explosiveness or burst speed. The question of how well his game will translate and how much he can improve is still an open book. Let's hope for the best.

[wildvikeswolves]

Thought it was the right pick at the time and loving it more and more

[Klomp]

I don't think it matters too much how good his closed gym measurements are. As has been pointed out by several people already, if you simply watch his game footage or even his highlight reels it's clear he's pretty much an average NBA athlete, with no indications of unusual explosiveness or burst speed. The question of how well his game will translate and how much he can improve is still an open book. Let's hope for the best.

I think a lot of that can be hidden because he didn't play in an uptempo offensive system. Texas Tech was bottom-third of the country in pace.

I wouldn't call him an average NBA athlete at all. I would say his game isn't flashy, but that doesn't mean he's just an average athlete.

[Norseman79]

I don't think it matters too much how good his closed gym measurements are. As has been pointed out by several people already, if you simply watch his game footage or even his highlight reels it's clear he's pretty much an average NBA athlete, with no indications of unusual explosiveness or burst speed. The question of how well his game will translate and how much he can improve is still an open book. Let's hope for the best.

At the same time, we also need to look at game tape and see if there were situations where his athleticism hurt him. If he drove the basket and simply laid it off the glass instead of trying to elevate over someone and throw it down, does it really matter? Culver strikes me as a smart player who isn't trying to wow people with flashy dunks or plays, just make the easier smart one. Seen plenty of footage of his lateral quickness on defense and a great first/second step on offense. The closed gym measurements mean he is capable of doing those things, the game footage shows what he chooses to use.

[wesleyt95]

Jarrett Culver is athletic enough to do everything he needs to do on the court, Jamario Moon is a better fast twitch athlete than Jimmy Butler that doesn’t make him a better basketball player

[Killboard]

I don't think it matters too much how good his closed gym measurements are. As has been pointed out by several people already, if you simply watch his game footage or even his highlight reels it's clear he's pretty much an average NBA athlete, with no indications of unusual explosiveness or burst speed. The question of how well his game will translate and how much he can improve is still an open book. Let's hope for the best.

Is finish through contact considered athelticism? Beacuse if it is the FG% of unassisted shots at the rim and his free throw ratio in college make him an above average athlete for his age.

[Foye]

Right after the draft he requested his agent to find him a gym to workout. This is the mentality we need.

No matter whether he can shoot currently, whether people say he is not above average athletically or does not possess an elite skill on NBA level.

Give him 2-3 years time to develop and this guy will be quite a player.

[KGdaBom]

Right after the draft he requested his agent to find him a gym to workout. This is the mentality we need.

No matter whether he can shoot currently, whether people say he is not above average athletically or does not possess an elite skill on NBA level.

Give him 2-3 years time to develop and this guy will be quite a player.

I appreciate what you are saying, but if he isn't significantly better than Okogie on day one I will be disappointed.

[Foye]

Right after the draft he requested his agent to find him a gym to workout. This is the mentality we need.

No matter whether he can shoot currently, whether people say he is not above average athletically or does not possess an elite skill on NBA level.

Give him 2-3 years time to develop and this guy will be quite a player.

I appreciate what you are saying, but if he isn't significantly better than Okogie on day one I will be disappointed.

I dont know.

Everyone in this draft screams crap to me. Even Zion. I dont see the hype. Just look how this guy is even walking. Looks like he needs to start physiotherapie sooner than soon. Definitely not looking healthy.

Last year was a **** great draft. Dont forget about it. Okogie is probably a lotto pick too this year.

So I am happy we got a guy who will work his ass off and we will see how it translates.

[Klomp]

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[Nick K]

What Culver seems to do best is drive to the basket and finish in a variety of ways. We could use that. He has a high floor but I don't think his ceiling is very high but that was typical of the draft after the top 3 or 4 picks.

[Ray_S]

Anyone else concerned he only measured six foot five at the combine and only shot 30% from three-point line?

Go Wolves!!

[Klomp]

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[Nick K]

Anyone else concerned he only measured six foot five at the combine and only shot 30% from three-point line?

Go Wolves!!

In May at the combine he measured 6' 6.75", with a 6' 9.5" wingspan. Not bad. Ideal reall, for a shooting guard.

The 30% from 3 was an outlier due to many factors. He's better than that.

He needs to improve his guide hand in his shooting technique.

[wablty]

Anyone else concerned he only measured six foot five at the combine and only shot 30% from three-point line?

Go Wolves!!

6'5" and change barefoot. Most NBA rosters lie about height, or use "with shoes". Culver was actually the 2nd tallest 'SG' measured. He's not a short wing.