Jedzz wrote:minimus wrote:Jedzz wrote:
Name another poster, who posts overnight on Fridays, but only from countries in asia, whom never thinks he's wrong, and might own red shoes, but without proper management and coaching will continue to respond this poorly. We all are waiting. Sorry for narrowing the filter so much.
Oh, my lil friend who cant even remember a name of country in Europe where I live. You might feel so lonely in my ignore list. But you are always welcome there! I encourage you to do the same: just ignore me.
Why would I ignore such wonderful responses. And why would I know what actual country you are posting from today when you are often posting from such wonderful vacation or work trips all over?
Jamal Murray is one answer to your ridiculous filtered request btw. West, drafted since Towns was, has helped his team reach the playoffs and competes at a high level in them. I'm sure there are less exciting players we could also dig up. But this should satisfy. Oh wait now you can claim Denver has proper management and coaching. Oh I see how this works...
Ok. Doncic. Next. I;'m sure there is some more. But oh wait, you said only Superstars! Oh yes that arbitrary label. Fun! We should really talk about how players should earn that label, shouldn't we?
Expand it to the entire league and it's also a nice list I'm certain. But I realize you also want to hide Towns behind a West situational excuse. So many levels of excuse filters in that response! Never stopped a Towns team from losing to east teams all these years and destroying chances at reaching playofffs. Where they could have at least performed better against their supposedly weaker East foes and used that to increase the record at the very least.
Everyone knows what Towns is capable of, and what have appeared to be a couple weaknesses along the way. No reason for feeling like we need to excuse it all. No reason to assume he can't improve his weaknesses shown. If people want to describe one of those weaknesses as he's been soft at times, so be it. I would admit there has been games in the books to support that. I wouldn't say he's normally playing soft by any means. But there is playing soft, and their is playing soft mentally as well. Might be some evidence of that at times as well. You want to claim there isn't. Ok. So these people are telling you there are examples of players that don't exhibit as much of this. Either you are open to the examples or you aren't.
Let me summarise your words.
Question: Name another young superstar in West conference who lead his team into playoffs without proper management and coaching.
Answer: Jamal Murray and Luka Doncic.
Do you understand that both are primary ballhandlers while KAT is the best offensive minded bigman, scorer? Do you understand that both are lead guards while KAT is not? Do you understand that both these players have been succeeding in first class organisations? Do you read my posts carefully or do you react?
I like Murray example. He wanted to play in MIN. But Thibs drafted Kris Dunn. Even if we drafted Murray, I'm 100% sure that Thibs would still trade a rookie comboguard without defense for Butler. In his rookie year, Murray averaged 10ppg, on 40%FG, 33% 3PT, 2.1APG, 1.4TO. Whats the difference between MIN and DEN organisation? Tim Connelly resisted to trade Murray, DEN FO put Jokic and Murray in position to succeed, surrounded with right supporting cast. Do you think Murray would have same success without Connelly? Do you think Murray would have same success without Jokic, the best passing big man in NBA, who helped immature Murray to run offense? Murray would have been perfect compliment to KAT, but Murray did not fit Thibs vision of PG, Murray was rookie, needed time for development, while Thibs was in win-now mode. I say Thibs, because he was one who controlled whole MIN organisation. He made decisions that still define MIN as team. Just imagine that before Jan. 16, 2020 KAT had to play with Jeff freaking Teague as starting PG.
I like Doncic example. Do you know that PHO, SAC, ATL they all passed on Doncic? They drafted Ayton, Bagley and Trae Young. Have any of these players elevated their teams and have moderated success in playoffs? These organisations are definition of bad coaching and bad management for years. It did not surprise Euro scouts who saw Doncic playing in Europe at young age that he succeeded in NBA, it did not surprise NBA experts that PHO, SAC, ATL messed up 2018 draft. Because it is coaching staff, scouting and FO working diligently together, sharing same vision, making aligned decisions. PHO, SAC, ATL did not see Doncic as primary ballhandler, but Rick Carlisle did. Luka is 2nd in USG rate, DAL have the best ORtg in regular season. Do you think Doncic would have same success in PHO, SAC, ATL? Do you think Doncic would have same success without Carlisle? Do you think Doncic would have same success without KP, the best available big man on trade market in 2019?
Do you see the point of my question? We evaluate whole context, entire organisation as environment around specific player. Not a player in vacuum.
P.S. You might dislike my way of expressing my thoughts. I understand it. Some things come from my bad English. For instance, in Russian language, there no is direct equivalent or such a big difference between "must" and "should". Some things come from my mentality. I try to use words carefully. I try not to attack people. But your extremely long posts I find extremely hard to understand. And honestly, after some time, I should admit that I dont even bother. Here is a good piece of human wisdom, that is actually from chinese culture, and I am korean, born in USSR, living in Germany, but I find it helpful, it explains why some people from different cultures understand each other on this forum, despite all the differences. And some people dont.
"Truth has nothing to do with language. Truth is like Moon in the sky and language is like the finger that points to the moon. A finger can point out where the moon is, but the finger is not the truth. You can see the moon without help of any fingers, can you?"
