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[Rookie-Mistake]

I'm not. I agree the #1 makes it look like I meant #1 overall but I was talking about the Edwards and Culver picks.

At this stage both Edwards and Culver picks have been poor.

Culver. Edwards.

Please do not confuse first round pick and first overall pick.

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[Jedzz]

Hard to see it happening outside of finding a GM dumb enough to take DLo or a plane crash that makes it unnecessary

WTF!

I've mentioned lately that people are going over the deep end with illogical and irrational hate for singular players. I used the word evil the other day and honestly some of these takes start to fit that. Posts have graduated from cherry picking negative moments or stat breakdowns and refusal to see any positives in players or any causality for what is happening, to now just hate posts with nothing behind them at all. There have been devisive attempts to sway others into a group hate with daily fake rhetoric and hate posts. I don't think they all qualify as opinions anymore. There is an irrational level being reached here that maybe should be culled.

[Jedzz]

I'm not. I agree the #1 makes it look like I meant #1 overall but I was talking about the Edwards and Culver picks.

At this stage both Edwards and Culver picks have been poor.

Culver. Edwards.

Please do not confuse first round pick and first overall pick.

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One of the reasons they have been poor choices has been that the team really didn't need that type of player selected at the time and it's causing a worsening environment for getting the best out of these new kids and the roster that was in place already. When will they finally start targeting the team's major weaknesses more and by doing so helping everyone look better instead of worse? The 1-3-1 fairytale or the 4-1 it seems to actually be is coming from the top down and I think it's hard to see an improvement coming operating like that.

[thinktank]

I'm not. I agree the #1 makes it look like I meant #1 overall but I was talking about the Edwards and Culver picks.

At this stage both Edwards and Culver picks have been poor.

Please do not confuse first round pick and first overall pick.

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One of the reasons they have been poor choices has been that the team really didn't need that type of player selected at the time and it's causing a worsening environment for getting the best out of these new kids and the roster that was in place already. When will they finally start targeting the team's major weaknesses more and by doing so helping everyone look better instead of worse? The 1-3-1 fairytale or the 4-1 it seems to actually be is coming from the top down and I think it's hard to see an improvement coming operating like that.

Your theories fall flat because you wanted Haliburton over Ball.

Same issues if you would’ve been drafting.

[Jedzz]

I'm not. I agree the #1 makes it look like I meant #1 overall but I was talking about the Edwards and Culver picks.

At this stage both Edwards and Culver picks have been poor.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using RealGM mobile app

One of the reasons they have been poor choices has been that the team really didn't need that type of player selected at the time and it's causing a worsening environment for getting the best out of these new kids and the roster that was in place already. When will they finally start targeting the team's major weaknesses more and by doing so helping everyone look better instead of worse? The 1-3-1 fairytale or the 4-1 it seems to actually be is coming from the top down and I think it's hard to see an improvement coming operating like that.

Your theories fall flat because you wanted Haliburton over Ball.

Same issues if you would’ve been drafting.

Haliburton didn't have to be onball to help this team. He adds shooting and game IQ. Things the team lacks enough of. These things made him useful right now without rubbing the rest of the team the wrong way.

Where as Ball would have needed the ball. Much like Edwards needs that ball, at least right now.

So you see, your opinion is the one falling flat.
Mine are backed by something real. As in 49/43/84

As good as Lamello has looked at times... he's 45/38/80

The post you quoted is talking about Rosas and his system. My suggestion for Haliburton was for his system and the guards he wants, and keeping an eye open for the players he is already paying. Somehow everyone has to play together and still get better shooting and smart play out of the team.

[thinktank]

One of the reasons they have been poor choices has been that the team really didn't need that type of player selected at the time and it's causing a worsening environment for getting the best out of these new kids and the roster that was in place already. When will they finally start targeting the team's major weaknesses more and by doing so helping everyone look better instead of worse? The 1-3-1 fairytale or the 4-1 it seems to actually be is coming from the top down and I think it's hard to see an improvement coming operating like that.

Your theories fall flat because you wanted Haliburton over Ball.

Same issues if you would’ve been drafting.

Haliburton didn't have to be onball to help this team. He adds shooting and game IQ. Things the team lacks enough of. These things made him useful right now without rubbing the rest of the team the wrong way.

Where as Ball would have needed the ball. Much like Edwards needs that ball, at least right now.

So you see, your opinion is the one falling flat.
Mine are backed by something real. As in 49/43/84

As good as Lamello has looked at times... he's 45/38/80

So you would’ve picked a backcourt player at the same position as Beasley.



If you’re arguing for need then why would you pick a PG or SG?



You make no sense.

[Jedzz]

Your theories fall flat because you wanted Haliburton over Ball.

Same issues if you would’ve been drafting.

Haliburton didn't have to be onball to help this team. He adds shooting and game IQ. Things the team lacks enough of. These things made him useful right now without rubbing the rest of the team the wrong way.

Where as Ball would have needed the ball. Much like Edwards needs that ball, at least right now.

So you see, your opinion is the one falling flat.
Mine are backed by something real. As in 49/43/84

As good as Lamello has looked at times... he's 45/38/80

Still, we’re heavy in the backcourt, you argue “draft for need”, yet you would’ve picked a backcourt player at the same position as Beasley.

Because I know what Rosas wanted and you just trade one of the guards that don't shoot as well.

If you've paid any attention at all you know how I feel about the logjam. But Rosas is Rosas so at least pick a good one for this team that can play with others and guarantee us better team shooting. But we just can't have a smart team and we just can't seem to draft our own shooters. It's against a universal law of some sort.

[Jedzz]

Your theories fall flat because you wanted Haliburton over Ball.

Same issues if you would’ve been drafting.

Haliburton didn't have to be onball to help this team. He adds shooting and game IQ. Things the team lacks enough of. These things made him useful right now without rubbing the rest of the team the wrong way.

Where as Ball would have needed the ball. Much like Edwards needs that ball, at least right now.

So you see, your opinion is the one falling flat.
Mine are backed by something real. As in 49/43/84

As good as Lamello has looked at times... he's 45/38/80

So you would’ve picked a backcourt player at the same position as Beasley.



If you’re arguing for need then why would you pick a PG or SG?



You make no sense.

The PoBo is who the pobo is. he's drafting guards. I've got other time spent posting other names for who I thought the team NEEDED.

Your childish posting is no longer worth my time. "thinktank"

[thinktank]

Haliburton didn't have to be onball to help this team. He adds shooting and game IQ. Things the team lacks enough of. These things made him useful right now without rubbing the rest of the team the wrong way.

Where as Ball would have needed the ball. Much like Edwards needs that ball, at least right now.

So you see, your opinion is the one falling flat.
Mine are backed by something real. As in 49/43/84

As good as Lamello has looked at times... he's 45/38/80

So you would’ve picked a backcourt player at the same position as Beasley.



If you’re arguing for need then why would you pick a PG or SG?



You make no sense.

The PoBo is who the pobo is. he's drafting guards. I've got other time spent posting other names for who I thought the team NEEDED.

Your childish posting is no longer worth my time. "thinktank"

Name-calling is your best bet because you contradict your own “draft for need” argument by taking Haliburton.

But you prove my point by taking BPA.

Thank you.

(Btw, I only see you complain here. Not sure why you bother posting on a fan forum if you hate the product so much. And you post A TON.)

[Jedzz]

Thinktank. Are you going to claim you weren't posting childish responses there?

(Btw, I only see you complain here. Not sure why you bother posting on a fan forum if you hate the product so much. And you post A TON.)

Yes I post a ton. Because there is A TON wrong with losing 50-60+ games every season and it begs to be said. I had that discussion already here my first month and said...that's why I came to Post. Someone has to start telling it as it is. This team needs to be contracted if they will never change. Yes I've said that here before too.

[Jedzz]

you contradict your own “draft for need” argument by taking Haliburton.

But you prove my point by taking BPA.

Thank you.

I've already responded explaining how there is no contradiction. But again you will refuse to listen. You are lobbing childish rhetoric at me now. Is your name Trump Jr.??

No, BPA has nothing to do with anything i've said. Go claim what you want.

Thank you for not quoting me again if you don't want to discuss this team honestly.

[andyhop]

Hard to see it happening outside of finding a GM dumb enough to take DLo or a plane crash that makes it unnecessary

WTF!

I've mentioned lately that people are going over the deep end with illogical and irrational hate for singular players. I used the word evil the other day and honestly some of these takes start to fit that. Posts have graduated from cherry picking negative moments or stat breakdowns and refusal to see any positives in players or any causality for what is happening, to now just hate posts with nothing behind them at all. There have been devisive attempts to sway others into a group hate with daily fake rhetoric and hate posts. I don't think they all qualify as opinions anymore. There is an irrational level being reached here that maybe should be culled.

It isn't illogical or irrational to hate having DLo on the team, I would argue its the exact opposite.

I have no hatred for DLo as a person and don't wish him any ill but he is a massive detriment to the team go now and going forward.

[thinktank]

Jedzz quotes me twice then asks me not to quote him.

Dohkay.

[Jedzz]

Hard to see it happening outside of finding a GM dumb enough to take DLo or a plane crash that makes it unnecessary

WTF!

I've mentioned lately that people are going over the deep end with illogical and irrational hate for singular players.

It isn't illogical or irrational to hate having DLo on the team, I would argue its the exact opposite.

I have no hatred for DLo as a person and don't wish him any ill but he is a massive detriment to the team go now and going forward.

Well yes you have posted one way to remove him is a plane crash. "...don't wish him any ill" ? I mean...really? Just kidding around? Just posting irrational stuff to further the hate cause and spin up the masses against him? Which is it?

With what would you argue the opposite is true from this being illogical/irrational to hate having Dlo on the team?

Dlo's statline this year:
29 mins/g, 16.3 FGA/g, 43% FG(.426), 40% 3FG(.399), 75% FT, 2.6 rpg, 5 apg, 1.1 steals, .5 blocks, 19.3 pts

Games 1-14 (before he started missing games and Rosas calling the season developmental)
30 mins/g, 17.4 FGA/g, 43% FG(.426), 40% 3FG(.400), 71% FT, 3 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.4 steals, .5 blocks, 20.5 pts

There is nothing wrong with these numbers. The amazing thing is he was capable of this during an all out mess of a season start.

Point out all the players on this team remotely capable of the same, ever. They've had two players capable of consistent enough efficient scoring and he's one of them.

Yes, you are being irrational and illogical about him. About the only thing that could be improved on is the assists with Rubio or Jmac, maybe rebounds but I don't know who would add much more rebounds. Rubio isn't bringing consistent scoring like that. Nobody will let JMac start. So go make a fairytale trade and find better. Right now he's it and I can live with those numbers and see them getting even better if they fix a few of this roster's issues.

[andyhop]

Hard to see it happening outside of finding a GM dumb enough to take DLo or a plane crash that makes it unnecessary

I've mentioned lately that people are going over the deep end with illogical and irrational hate for singular players.

It isn't illogical or irrational to hate having DLo on the team, I would argue its the exact opposite.

I have no hatred for DLo as a person and don't wish him any ill but he is a massive detriment to the team go now and going forward.

Well yes you have posted one way to remove him is a plane crash. "...don't wish him any ill" ? I mean...really? Just kidding around? Just posting irrational stuff to further the hate cause and spin up the masses against him? Which is it?

With what would you argue the opposite is true from this being illogical/irrational to hate having Dlo on the team?

Dlo's statline this year:
29 mins/g, 16.3 FGA/g, 43% FG(.426), 40% 3FG(.399), 75% FT, 2.6 rpg, 5 apg, 1.1 steals, .5 blocks, 19.3 pts

Games 1-14 (before he started missing games and Rosas calling the season developmental)
30 mins/g, 17.4 FGA/g, 43% FG(.426), 40% 3FG(.400), 71% FT, 3 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.4 steals, .5 blocks, 20.5 pts

There is nothing wrong with these numbers. The amazing thing is he was capable of this during an all out mess of a season start.

Point out all the players on this team remotely capable of the same, ever. They've had two players capable of consistent enough efficient scoring and he's one of them.

Yes, you are being irrational and illogical about him. About the only thing that could be improved on is the assists with Rubio or Jmac, maybe rebounds but I don't know who would add much more rebounds. Rubio isn't bringing consistent scoring like that. Nobody will let JMac start. So go make a fairytale trade and find better. Right now he's it and I can live with those numbers and see them getting even better if they fix a few of this roster's issues.

When it is undeniably true that if one of the teams supposed Stars died unexpectantly that the team would be in a much better position going forward thats a commentary on the teams terrible situation not a wish for it to happen.

[Jedzz]

Hard to see it happening outside of finding a GM dumb enough to take DLo or a plane crash that makes it unnecessary

It isn't illogical or irrational to hate having DLo on the team, I would argue its the exact opposite.

I have no hatred for DLo as a person and don't wish him any ill but he is a massive detriment to the team go now and going forward.

Well yes you have posted one way to remove him is a plane crash. "...don't wish him any ill" ? I mean...really? Just kidding around? Just posting irrational stuff to further the hate cause and spin up the masses against him? Which is it?

With what would you argue the opposite is true from this being illogical/irrational to hate having Dlo on the team?

Dlo's statline this year:
29 mins/g, 16.3 FGA/g, 43% FG(.426), 40% 3FG(.399), 75% FT, 2.6 rpg, 5 apg, 1.1 steals, .5 blocks, 19.3 pts

Games 1-14 (before he started missing games and Rosas calling the season developmental)
30 mins/g, 17.4 FGA/g, 43% FG(.426), 40% 3FG(.400), 71% FT, 3 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.4 steals, .5 blocks, 20.5 pts

There is nothing wrong with these numbers. The amazing thing is he was capable of this during an all out mess of a season start.

Point out all the players on this team remotely capable of the same, ever. They've had two players capable of consistent enough efficient scoring and he's one of them.

Yes, you are being irrational and illogical about him. About the only thing that could be improved on is the assists with Rubio or Jmac, maybe rebounds but I don't know who would add much more rebounds. Rubio isn't bringing consistent scoring like that. Nobody will let JMac start. So go make a fairytale trade and find better. Right now he's it and I can live with those numbers and see them getting even better if they fix a few of this roster's issues.

When it is undeniably true that if one of the teams supposed Stars died unexpectantly that the team would be in a much better position going forward thats a commentary on the teams terrible situation not a wish for it to happen.

You are over the top, irrational. I just gave you the numbers and you refuse to see it. It's irrational. Beasley hasn't even shot that well. Kat hasn't. You are saying the best shooter this team has this season and the second best assist player being gone will make this team better. Leave your personal items at home when they check you in. Personal opinions on a player are fine. We all have players we like more than others. But talking about plane crashes and dieing unexpectantly is over the line. Good bye.

[andyhop]

Well yes you have posted one way to remove him is a plane crash. "...don't wish him any ill" ? I mean...really? Just kidding around? Just posting irrational stuff to further the hate cause and spin up the masses against him? Which is it?

With what would you argue the opposite is true from this being illogical/irrational to hate having Dlo on the team?

Dlo's statline this year:
29 mins/g, 16.3 FGA/g, 43% FG(.426), 40% 3FG(.399), 75% FT, 2.6 rpg, 5 apg, 1.1 steals, .5 blocks, 19.3 pts

Games 1-14 (before he started missing games and Rosas calling the season developmental)
30 mins/g, 17.4 FGA/g, 43% FG(.426), 40% 3FG(.400), 71% FT, 3 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.4 steals, .5 blocks, 20.5 pts

There is nothing wrong with these numbers. The amazing thing is he was capable of this during an all out mess of a season start.

Point out all the players on this team remotely capable of the same, ever. They've had two players capable of consistent enough efficient scoring and he's one of them.

Yes, you are being irrational and illogical about him. About the only thing that could be improved on is the assists with Rubio or Jmac, maybe rebounds but I don't know who would add much more rebounds. Rubio isn't bringing consistent scoring like that. Nobody will let JMac start. So go make a fairytale trade and find better. Right now he's it and I can live with those numbers and see them getting even better if they fix a few of this roster's issues.

When it is undeniably true that if one of the teams supposed Stars died unexpectantly that the team would be in a much better position going forward thats a commentary on the teams terrible situation not a wish for it to happen.

You are over the top, irrational. I just gave you the numbers and you refuse to see it. It's irrational. Beasley hasn't even shot that well. Kat hasn't. You are saying the best shooter this team has this season and the second best assist player being gone will make this team better. Leave your personal items at home when they check you in. Personal opinions on a player are fine. We all have players we like more than others. But talking about plane crashes and dieing unexpectantly is over the line. Good bye.

Which of those numbers denote defense and impact?

The fact that you take individual offensive numbers as some kind of holy grail explains your lack of understanding of the game