Game 63: Minnesota @ Golden State

[Folklore]

I hate to say it but the season's over. Even if the team clicks when KAT comes back, it will be too late.

With no KAT and D'Lo gone, we don't have enough offense.

But we had to trade him.

[Baseline81]

But we had to trade him.

But Conley's going to unlock Gobert.

[bluethunder0005]

DLo still sucked here and we wouldn't have won any games we lost since he's been gone with maybe the exception of last night if he had a good shooting game. Other than that DLo was easily the second worst rotation player of the guys getting more than 20 minutes a night (Rivers is the worst). Conley can't go out and score 25+ often but maybe if Ant hadn't shot 5-19 we wouldn't be having this discussion. Not having other viable offensive threats never stops Luka from scoring well.

[_AIJ_]

Rivers was -12 btw. I really dont know why that guy gets minutes

[minimus]

Rivers was -12 btw. I really dont know why that guy gets minutes

Because Nowell and TP were out? But yeah, I wish Moore gets a chance.

[Baseline81]

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[papertrail]

In reality, if Karl-Anthony Towns' calf doesn't implode, Minnesota likely wins at least three more games this season, which would amount to Minnesota being the fourth seed (honestly, a healthy Taurean Prince likely allows for that). If Towns doesn't go down, I think it is relatively likely that Minnesota would be in contention for the second seed right now (6-7 more wins).

That said, even with that information, it doesn't make the season feel any less miserable.

Second seed? Not sure if I watched the same Gobert-KAT pairing as you did...

Truthfully, not sure what you watched, given that Minnesota's early problems stemmed from Minnesota's guardplay being absolutely dreadful, to start the season. The Rudy Gobert and Karl-Anthony Towns combination was relatively fine.

But again, let's pretend that Minnesota wins only four more games if their best player was not injured. That's it, nothing more because the fit is janky, or whatever issues arise.

That would put them 1.5 games back from the third seed and 3 games back from the second seed.

You are probably the only member of this fandom who thinks that KAT-Gobert pairing was fine lol

[papertrail]

DLo still sucked here and we wouldn't have won any games we lost since he's been gone with maybe the exception of last night if he had a good shooting game. Other than that DLo was easily the second worst rotation player of the guys getting more than 20 minutes a night (Rivers is the worst). Conley can't go out and score 25+ often but maybe if Ant hadn't shot 5-19 we wouldn't be having this discussion. Not having other viable offensive threats never stops Luka from scoring well.

Smartest poster of this board, ladies and gentlemen.

[Note30]

DLo still sucked here and we wouldn't have won any games we lost since he's been gone with maybe the exception of last night if he had a good shooting game. Other than that DLo was easily the second worst rotation player of the guys getting more than 20 minutes a night (Rivers is the worst). Conley can't go out and score 25+ often but maybe if Ant hadn't shot 5-19 we wouldn't be having this discussion. Not having other viable offensive threats never stops Luka from scoring well.

Hold up. Does that mean Ant is our entire offense? If he is, it's def the first year and a select number of games for where that's true.

Luka is the 2nd best (arguably) best player in the league behind or in front of Giannis.

Edwards is two years younger and clearly not the playmaker that Luka is. Our entire offense is NOT dictated around Ant playmaking and scoring. Unlike Luka.

The Mavs have an entire heliocentric offense around Luka. They've constructed the roster as such and he's been playing this way for almost 5 years now.

Luka also has 3-4 GOOD shooters around him all the time. In fact outside of Powell everyone that plays regular minutes shoots above 36% from the 3.

Ant just got the keys to the kingdom where he's responsible for everything and you know what he has?

Ant has Gobert, Conley, and Anderson (who's shooting great on 1 shot attempt per game).

All of which is revolving around an offense designed to get almost every player involved but practically no cuts, flares, or spacing.

Any more asinine takes behind why this is Ants fault?

**** idiot.

[Note30]

DLo still sucked here and we wouldn't have won any games we lost since he's been gone with maybe the exception of last night if he had a good shooting game. Other than that DLo was easily the second worst rotation player of the guys getting more than 20 minutes a night (Rivers is the worst). Conley can't go out and score 25+ often but maybe if Ant hadn't shot 5-19 we wouldn't be having this discussion. Not having other viable offensive threats never stops Luka from scoring well.

Smartest poster of this board, ladies and gentlemen.

Edit of the original post: This should be in green text.
Hey, no personal attacks! -Calinks

[Shaka_Zulu]

I appreciated Finch so far. But its TIME for him to go, like right now. Same inexcusable bad coaching end of games, cant be tolerated further.


We suck again, and we dont even have our own pick to gain anything from it, meaning we suck even more then usual...

[Neeva]

Yep Finch has to go our record against bad to mediocre teams and giving up big leads in the third is just inexcusable! He is not head coach material. He just doesn’t know when to put in the right players or when to bench them. When to call timeouts or motivate his players. Lacks the intangibles needed to be a successful head coach in the league.

[bluethunder0005]

DLo still sucked here and we wouldn't have won any games we lost since he's been gone with maybe the exception of last night if he had a good shooting game. Other than that DLo was easily the second worst rotation player of the guys getting more than 20 minutes a night (Rivers is the worst). Conley can't go out and score 25+ often but maybe if Ant hadn't shot 5-19 we wouldn't be having this discussion. Not having other viable offensive threats never stops Luka from scoring well.

Hold up. Does that mean Ant is our entire offense? If he is, it's def the first year and a select number of games for where that's true.

Luka is the 2nd best (arguably) best player in the league behind or in front of Giannis.

Edwards is two years younger and clearly not the playmaker that Luka is. Our entire offense is NOT dictated around Ant playmaking and scoring. Unlike Luka.

The Mavs have an entire heliocentric offense around Luka. They've constructed the roster as such and he's been playing this way for almost 5 years now.

Luka also has 3-4 GOOD shooters around him all the time. In fact outside of Powell everyone that plays regular minutes shoots above 36% from the 3.

Ant just got the keys to the kingdom where he's responsible for everything and you know what he has?

Ant has Gobert, Conley, and Anderson (who's shooting great on 1 shot attempt per game).

All of which is revolving around an offense designed to get almost every player involved but practically no cuts, flares, or spacing.

Any more asinine takes behind why this is Ants fault?

**** idiot.

Last night was largely Ant's fault, and if you think it wasn't then there's no point in having a discussion with you about it. There is no excuse to shoot sub 30% in a game. I never said he should be as good as Luka but if you think we're in any better spot with DLo right now then you're wrong which was my point. It's like you read one sentence in my post and went "Oh damn, he thinks Ant should be as good as Luka" and ignored the rest. DLo sucks is my point. He had the 2nd worst On-Off numbers on the team and only Rivers was worse.

[minimus]

DLo still sucked here and we wouldn't have won any games we lost since he's been gone with maybe the exception of last night if he had a good shooting game. Other than that DLo was easily the second worst rotation player of the guys getting more than 20 minutes a night (Rivers is the worst). Conley can't go out and score 25+ often but maybe if Ant hadn't shot 5-19 we wouldn't be having this discussion. Not having other viable offensive threats never stops Luka from scoring well.

Hold up. Does that mean Ant is our entire offense? If he is, it's def the first year and a select number of games for where that's true.

Luka is the 2nd best (arguably) best player in the league behind or in front of Giannis.

Edwards is two years younger and clearly not the playmaker that Luka is. Our entire offense is NOT dictated around Ant playmaking and scoring. Unlike Luka.

The Mavs have an entire heliocentric offense around Luka. They've constructed the roster as such and he's been playing this way for almost 5 years now.

Luka also has 3-4 GOOD shooters around him all the time. In fact outside of Powell everyone that plays regular minutes shoots above 36% from the 3.

Ant just got the keys to the kingdom where he's responsible for everything and you know what he has?

Ant has Gobert, Conley, and Anderson (who's shooting great on 1 shot attempt per game).

All of which is revolving around an offense designed to get almost every player involved but practically no cuts, flares, or spacing.

Any more asinine takes behind why this is Ants fault?

**** idiot.

Last night was largely Ant's fault, and if you think it wasn't then there's no point in having a discussion with you about it. There is no excuse to shoot sub 30% in a game. I never said he should be as good as Luka but if you think we're in any better spot with DLo right now then you're wrong which was my point. It's like you read one sentence in my post and went "Oh damn, he thinks Ant should be as good as Luka" and ignored the rest. DLo sucks is my point. He had the 2nd worst On-Off numbers on the team and only Rivers was worse.

Yesterday Edwards gave me Wiggins vibes: low effort, in one defensive possession he didn't box out twice, lost the ball multiple times.

[PharmD]

I did not know the wolves lost this game. It was 94-84 with like 8 minutes left when i left the bar. Assumed victory. Big loss too.

[TimberKat]

The good news (if we could call it that) is we had the lead in the 4qtr for all 3 games. We still could get the 9 or 10 seed because Zion is still out, LBJ is out, Lillard is not going to score 71 pts every game, and Ainge will fix Jazz to ensure they get into the lottery.

[Krapinsky]

I did not know the wolves lost this game. It was 94-84 with like 8 minutes left when i left the bar. Assumed victory. Big loss too.

You clearly haven't been following the Wolves too closely this year

[shrink]

I’m amused that TNT is hyping Wednesday’s game as the Timberwolves versus the Clippers “New Big Three.”

Westbrook waived by one LA team, and is suddenly part of a Big Three on the other!

[Calinks]

I’m amused that TNT is hyping Wednesday’s game as the Timberwolves versus the Clippers “New Big Three.”

Westbrook waived by one LA team, and is suddenly part of a Big Three on the other!

I am so not looking forward to Charles Barkley annihilating our team again. He said we were dumb for making the trade early, he said its the worst trade in NBA history and now we will get ripped to shreds for losing these games and spiraling out of the playoff race.

[minimus]

Well, I thought GSW broke our defense, but actually it was not that bad, there were a few mistakes like McLaughlin allowing open 3 for J.Green, otherwise it was ok. But the GSW offense and execution was completely different level. One example we tried to run split action with Conley, Edwards and Garza. DDV recognized the play and jumped between Edwards and Garza and intercepted the pass. Meanwhile GSW run multiple actions without turnovers. I also felt like every GSW screen for Klay Thompson was a moving screen.