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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#61 » by Calinks » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:46 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Farce of an Interview with Miller about him going to the Spurs. Why did they even do this interview.

Legitimate question here, Why can't the NBA do better? What is the massive problem they are trying to avoid that makes something this stupid a better alternative?
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#62 » by KGdaBom » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:47 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:Farce of an Interview with Miller about him going to the Spurs. Why did they even do this interview.

Legitimate question here, Why can't the NBA do better? What is the massive problem they are trying to avoid that makes something this stupid a better alternative?

You're preaching to the choir with me.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#63 » by Note30 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:34 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:We need to get Miller on whatever program we had Naz Reid on for the last 4 years.
A lot of athletic gifts and a frame that can add some bulk.
Not a lot of developed skills or feel for the game yet.

The ~80% FT shooting has me encouraged he will eventually be a plus shooter.
Usually a pretty good bellweather stat, especially for bigs.



Rubio shot 80% from the FT line. That being said, Ricky didn't experience a 6 inch growth spurt in the last two years. I actually think he's closer to a Vanderbilt as his floor and his ceiling is higher than Draymond.

Dray is a very high ceiling for him. He was a total package and a DAWG. However, Miller should easily score more.


The guy who can't shoot or score is a complete package? Please. He's a good passer, but most forwards in Draymond 's position would be able to average 5 assists passing to the best shooters who ever lived. He's a solid passer, who is a good defender. He's also an extremely dirty player, who is extremely cocky, narcissistic, and arrogant. He's not a dawg, he's been in the league for over 10 years, playing closely with the two best shooters who ever lived and hasn't managed to develop an even passable shot. He has no hustle or motor either.

I hope Miller is nothing like him, and I genuinely do think he could be better.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#64 » by younggunsmn » Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:51 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:We need to get Miller on whatever program we had Naz Reid on for the last 4 years.
A lot of athletic gifts and a frame that can add some bulk.
Not a lot of developed skills or feel for the game yet.

The ~80% FT shooting has me encouraged he will eventually be a plus shooter.
Usually a pretty good bellweather stat, especially for bigs.



Rubio shot 80% from the FT line. That being said, Ricky didn't experience a 6 inch growth spurt in the last two years. I actually think he's closer to a Vanderbilt as his floor and his ceiling is higher than Draymond.


With his handle and rebounding ability I have his ceiling as a taller Julius Randle. He has a long long way to go to reach that though.
I like the top half of his shooting motion a lot, but he has a lot of stuff to clean up in his lower body and footwork on his shot.
Too much lean and fade to be consistent.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#65 » by Norseman79 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:08 pm

As far as guys who I could see Miller being similar to, I will set aside Hall of Fame players because people jump to the conclusion that someone is saying that Miller would be like that guy when all they are saying is they would have a similar game. So here are three guys that Miller reminds me of at this point:

Al Harrington, Lamar Odom, Rashard Lewis
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#66 » by Note30 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:57 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
Note30 wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:We need to get Miller on whatever program we had Naz Reid on for the last 4 years.
A lot of athletic gifts and a frame that can add some bulk.
Not a lot of developed skills or feel for the game yet.

The ~80% FT shooting has me encouraged he will eventually be a plus shooter.
Usually a pretty good bellweather stat, especially for bigs.



Rubio shot 80% from the FT line. That being said, Ricky didn't experience a 6 inch growth spurt in the last two years. I actually think he's closer to a Vanderbilt as his floor and his ceiling is higher than Draymond.


With his handle and rebounding ability I have his ceiling as a taller Julius Randle. He has a long long way to go to reach that though.
I like the top half of his shooting motion a lot, but he has a lot of stuff to clean up in his lower body and footwork on his shot.
Too much lean and fade to be consistent.


I agree, I do think he needs to learn to become a set shooter first. Or at least have the mechanics of it.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#67 » by BlacJacMac » Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:47 pm

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Post#68 » by Baseline81 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:15 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:Must read:

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Most importantly, it sounds like he has the drive/will to develop.
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Post#69 » by wolves_89 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:20 pm

My guess is Miller's path to playing time is going to be very similar to Vanderbilt. High end defense and rebounding are going to be what gets him on the court and I hope that is what he focuses on. The offensive side of the game can grow over time.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#70 » by Norseman79 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:25 pm

He basically gets the development year. With Anderson and cat on the roster still, barring injuries, he should be able to focus the year on development. Let's be honest, slow-mo only has one year left and cat could be traded anytime. Miller, McDaniels, and Minot are definitely interesting combination of forwards.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#71 » by ItsDanger » Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:57 pm

Miller is a steal at 33. Of course my Raps don't even bother trying to trade into 2nd to get a local guy, yet again.

Don't try comparing him to other players, they're not many with his style. Any 6'10 player with scoring touch that can pass, handle a bit, and especially operate in traffic is a must draft prospect. He improved a LOT this season, especially his perimeter shooting. Must have put on 10 lbs during g league season.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#72 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:26 am

Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
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Rubio shot 80% from the FT line. That being said, Ricky didn't experience a 6 inch growth spurt in the last two years. I actually think he's closer to a Vanderbilt as his floor and his ceiling is higher than Draymond.

Dray is a very high ceiling for him. He was a total package and a DAWG. However, Miller should easily score more.


The guy who can't shoot or score is a complete package? Please. He's a good passer, but most forwards in Draymond 's position would be able to average 5 assists passing to the best shooters who ever lived. He's a solid passer, who is a good defender. He's also an extremely dirty player, who is extremely cocky, narcissistic, and arrogant. He's not a dawg, he's been in the league for over 10 years, playing closely with the two best shooters who ever lived and hasn't managed to develop an even passable shot. He has no hustle or motor either.

I hope Miller is nothing like him, and I genuinely do think he could be better.

Dray is a bad ass and you are way underrating him. He was a big part of the Warriors titles.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#73 » by theGreatRC » Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:59 am

The way he moves and his mannerisms remind me of JJJ
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#74 » by Nick K » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:42 am

seal wrote:This is a weird comp, but Leonard gives me slight Corey Brewer vibes. Obviously their bodies are a lot different, but they both have a frenetic playstyle that sometimes looks awkward or uncoordinated but is often crudely effective.


I'm not really seeing that. I get your take to a small degree....I get what you're thinking.

He will be a better shooter than Cory.

Cory was a nice player but he couldn't shoot. Never could.

And I'm a big Corey Brewer fan. Chances are Miller turns out better. "Go Wolves"!
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#75 » by wolves_89 » Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:32 am

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seal wrote:This is a weird comp, but Leonard gives me slight Corey Brewer vibes. Obviously their bodies are a lot different, but they both have a frenetic playstyle that sometimes looks awkward or uncoordinated but is often crudely effective.


I'm not really seeing that. I get your take to a small degree....I get what you're thinking.

He will be a better shooter than Cory.

Cory was a nice player but he couldn't shoot. Never could.

And I'm a big Corey Brewer fan. Chances are Miller turns out better. "Go Wolves"!


I agree that Brewer is a poor comp. From the video I've seen of Miller he seems much smoother and more coordinated than Cory. I think his handle and playmaking will eventually be on a completely different level than Brewer. I suspect any awkwardness is due to the huge growth spurt he went through not all that long ago.
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The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#76 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:47 am

I’ve been waiting so patiently to get to a computer to log in and share my absolute glee about this pick, since getting out surgery on draft day. Still not to a computer, but I can’t wait any longer!

A lot of interesting comps thrown around here, but the one I’ve personally settled on offensively is actually Naz Reid. And the more I watch some of his dunks and finishes at the rim and in mid-range, I see a bit some of the ambidexterity of fellow Canadian NAW as well.

Home run pick, I love it so much! And I love the aggressiveness Connelly showed to go get him.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#77 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:01 am

Klomp wrote:I’ve been waiting so patiently to get to a computer to log in and share my absolute glee about this pick, since getting out surgery on draft day. Still not to a computer, but I can’t wait any longer!

A lot of interesting comps thrown around here, but the one I’ve personally settled on offensively is actually Naz Reid. And the more I watch some of his dunks and finishes at the rim and in mid-range, I see a bit of fellow Canadian NAW as well.

Home run pick, I love it so much! And I love the aggressiveness Connelly showed to go get him.

Hey Klomp. I hope your surgery went well. I'm very glad to hear that you love the pick. That says more to me than all the other people who love this pick. To me getting pick 33 in this years draft is a steal for a 2nd in 26 and another in 28. I hope you like the Jaylen Clark pick also.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#78 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:23 am

It’s of course going to be a process for him. I highly doubt he opens the season in the regular rotation. I don’t think he finishes the year there either.

Connelly said something recently about betting on these guys a year early. I think we did that last year with Josh and now this year with Leonard. Interestingly, we have a potential roster decision this year with Taurean and next year with Kyle. That’s probably more a coincidence than anything, but it’s still worth pointing out as we balance the books around our expensive starting lineup.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#79 » by minimus » Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:01 am

Now I wonder what type of contract he gets.
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Re: The Official Leonard Miller Thread 

Post#80 » by shangrila » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:31 am

Calinks wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Farce of an Interview with Miller about him going to the Spurs. Why did they even do this interview.

Legitimate question here, Why can't the NBA do better? What is the massive problem they are trying to avoid that makes something this stupid a better alternative?

A deal falls through is my guess. Although given that very rarely happens, it would be incredibly stupid to have that crap causing the above.

I'm not even sure why our deal can't go through instantly? I get the Dallas-OKC one, given it has to wait until OKC has capspace, but unless I missed something the 33rd pick was the Spurs and our 2 2nds we had gotten prior to the Draft. So what is the wait on? Or is the NBA so anal they need all the forms submitted before they'll formally announce it?

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