Preseason thread

[BlacJacMac]

Its not even a knock against Dillingham.

Most rookies stink. Especially young ones. Especially small ones. Especially PGs.

2 of the best physical comparisons to him are Trae Young and Mike Conley.

Young shot 42/32 as a rookie. Was a disaster on defense and only had a 2/1 AST/TO ratio. He was awful.

Conley was a negative on both ends and terrible by every advanced stat. He was so far from being good that he got MIP votes in 4 of his first 7 seasons.

Both guys got to play a lot because they were on terrible teams that failed to win 30 games.

Dillingham has the rare opportunity of being on a very good team that doesn't need him to produce. He can work on his body and his game with coaches, trainers and dietitians. If he earns spot minutes, that's awesome. If he doesn't, its OK because its a year for him to grow and learn.

[KGdaBom]

That's short sighted.

We are lacking draft picks over the next handful of years. And likely lacking any kind of high picks.

If they saw Dillingham as a big-time talent, you absolutely take him. Even if you think he might need a couple years to physically mature.

Because we can all predict the future. This player really sucks now, but let's draft him mid lottery because he's going to get good 3 years from now. If that's how it works I prefer to be short sighted.
Dilly can help us now and he can help us later. It doesn't need to be one or the other.

You are such a dishonest arguer...

No one said he "sucks now". No one.

You really don't see the difference between saying "a player sucks" and "a player might not be physically ready yet"?

No. I really don't. If he's not ready he sucks. It doesn't mean he will suck forever, but if you say he's not ready now you're saying he sucks now. I'm arguing in complete good faith.

[Slim Tubby]

I would argue (and could be wrong) that Dilly's development is best served staying up with the Wolves:

1.Practice/scrimmage every day with future teammates and coaches

2. Daily access to better strength and conditioning programs and trainers

3. Traveling with the team and bonding off/on the court

4. Watch the veterans every day to learn how to be a professional (Conley's shadow)

If Dilly plays significant minutes this year, either disaster has struck or we have the next coming of Steve Francis.

Either way, it's fun having a GM that identifies what he wants and has the marbles to go get it. Our Cap future would look a lot rosier if we are able to get meaningful minutes from Dilly, TSJ and Minott sooner rather than later.

The real question to me is what becomes of Randle. I find it implausible that we would trade KAT's Max deal just to turn around and sign Julius to one and I wouldn't expect his trade market to be all that desirable.

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[KGdaBom]

Its not even a knock against Dillingham.

Most rookies stink. Especially young ones. Especially small ones. Especially PGs.

2 of the best physical comparisons to him are Trae Young and Mike Conley.

Young shot 42/32 as a rookie. Was a disaster on defense and only had a 2/1 AST/TO ratio. He was awful.

Conley was a negative on both ends and terrible by every advanced stat. He was so far from being good that he got MIP votes in 4 of his first 7 seasons.

Both guys got to play a lot because they were on terrible teams that failed to win 30 games.

Dillingham has the rare opportunity of being on a very good team that doesn't need him to produce. He can work on his body and his game with coaches, trainers and dietitians. If he earns spot minutes, that's awesome. If he doesn't, its OK because its a year for him to grow and learn.

He's ripped as hell. His body can't get much better. What we see is what we are going to get. Sure he will improve some, but those looking for him to become an NFL linebacker will be disappointed. His value to the Wolves is going to be on the offensive side. Hopefully that outweighs any negatives on the defensive side.

[BlacJacMac]

Its not even a knock against Dillingham.

Most rookies stink. Especially young ones. Especially small ones. Especially PGs.

2 of the best physical comparisons to him are Trae Young and Mike Conley.

Young shot 42/32 as a rookie. Was a disaster on defense and only had a 2/1 AST/TO ratio. He was awful.

Conley was a negative on both ends and terrible by every advanced stat. He was so far from being good that he got MIP votes in 4 of his first 7 seasons.

Both guys got to play a lot because they were on terrible teams that failed to win 30 games.

Dillingham has the rare opportunity of being on a very good team that doesn't need him to produce. He can work on his body and his game with coaches, trainers and dietitians. If he earns spot minutes, that's awesome. If he doesn't, its OK because its a year for him to grow and learn.

He's ripped as hell. His body can't get much better. What we see is what we are going to get. Sure he will improve some, but those looking for him to become an NFL linebacker will be disappointed. His value to the Wolves is going to be on the offensive side. Hopefully that outweighs any negatives on the defensive side.

He's ripped because he has no fat, not because his muscles are maxed out. Ripped does not equal strong. Steph Curry is ridiculously strong. Like legit crazy strong. He's not shredded because he built his body for strength, not show.

Dillingham can absolutely add muscle mass and get MUCH stronger. He's 19 years old.

And he needs that strength for offense as much as he does for defense. Right now he really struggles against contact and getting to the basket. He needs that strength to be able to absorb it and fight through it.

[KGdaBom]

Its not even a knock against Dillingham.

Most rookies stink. Especially young ones. Especially small ones. Especially PGs.

2 of the best physical comparisons to him are Trae Young and Mike Conley.

Young shot 42/32 as a rookie. Was a disaster on defense and only had a 2/1 AST/TO ratio. He was awful.

Conley was a negative on both ends and terrible by every advanced stat. He was so far from being good that he got MIP votes in 4 of his first 7 seasons.

Both guys got to play a lot because they were on terrible teams that failed to win 30 games.

Dillingham has the rare opportunity of being on a very good team that doesn't need him to produce. He can work on his body and his game with coaches, trainers and dietitians. If he earns spot minutes, that's awesome. If he doesn't, its OK because its a year for him to grow and learn.

He's ripped as hell. His body can't get much better. What we see is what we are going to get. Sure he will improve some, but those looking for him to become an NFL linebacker will be disappointed. His value to the Wolves is going to be on the offensive side. Hopefully that outweighs any negatives on the defensive side.

He's ripped because he has no fat, not because his muscles are maxed out. Ripped does not equal strong. Steph Curry is ridiculously strong. Like legit crazy strong. He's not shredded because he built his body for strength, not show.

Dillingham can absolutely add muscle mass and get MUCH stronger. He's 19 years old.

And he needs that strength for offense as much as he does for defense. Right now he really struggles against contact and getting to the basket. He needs that strength to be able to absorb it and fight through it.

That is true, but may never come to be. I think he can be a good and efficient scorer even if it never comes.
My prediction is he will add 10 pounds of muscle in the next 1 to 2 seasons and that will pretty much be it. He will add a few pounds later as his body settles in. Last I heard is he was 163 and honestly I hope he never plays above 185.

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[Sealab2024]

Its not even a knock against Dillingham.

Most rookies stink. Especially young ones. Especially small ones. Especially PGs.

2 of the best physical comparisons to him are Trae Young and Mike Conley.

Young shot 42/32 as a rookie. Was a disaster on defense and only had a 2/1 AST/TO ratio. He was awful.

Conley was a negative on both ends and terrible by every advanced stat. He was so far from being good that he got MIP votes in 4 of his first 7 seasons.

Both guys got to play a lot because they were on terrible teams that failed to win 30 games.

Dillingham has the rare opportunity of being on a very good team that doesn't need him to produce. He can work on his body and his game with coaches, trainers and dietitians. If he earns spot minutes, that's awesome. If he doesn't, its OK because its a year for him to grow and learn.

Neither of those are very good comps. Mike was a pass first point guard with a shaky offensive game and was too skinny to guard anyone. Trae is more Iverson just not anywhere near as good in that he needs to have the ball in his hands at all times to be anything like effective. Rob has an advanced offensive game and he can catch and shoot and play off ball.

The proper comparison in my mind is Brandon Jennings. 6'1" 155 lbs when he entered the league. Of course he was handed a starting job on a bad Milwaukee team but he averaged 15 and 6 in 32 minutes per while getting bullied on the defensive side. Brandon had a ton of the same offensive attributes Rob does. Nice shot, good floater, shifty enough to get off in the midrange and get to the basket when possible. And the same negatives; plain to skinny to defend.

Personally I think Rob has a better feel than Brandon did at the same age, but Robs also playing off the bench which maximizes your abilities while minimizing your deficiencies. If he can go 8 and 3 and provide spark in some games, being able to handle 15-18 minutes of backup duty by years end that's a huge win for the Wolves.

[younggunsmn]

Its not even a knock against Dillingham.

Most rookies stink. Especially young ones. Especially small ones. Especially PGs.

2 of the best physical comparisons to him are Trae Young and Mike Conley.

Young shot 42/32 as a rookie. Was a disaster on defense and only had a 2/1 AST/TO ratio. He was awful.

Conley was a negative on both ends and terrible by every advanced stat. He was so far from being good that he got MIP votes in 4 of his first 7 seasons.

Both guys got to play a lot because they were on terrible teams that failed to win 30 games.

Dillingham has the rare opportunity of being on a very good team that doesn't need him to produce. He can work on his body and his game with coaches, trainers and dietitians. If he earns spot minutes, that's awesome. If he doesn't, its OK because its a year for him to grow and learn.

Neither of those are very good comps. Mike was a pass first point guard with a shaky offensive game and was too skinny to guard anyone. Trae is more Iverson just not anywhere near as good in that he needs to have the ball in his hands at all times to be anything like effective. Rob has an advanced offensive game and he can catch and shoot and play off ball.

The proper comparison in my mind is Brandon Jennings. 6'1" 155 lbs when he entered the league. Of course he was handed a starting job on a bad Milwaukee team but he averaged 15 and 6 in 32 minutes per while getting bullied on the defensive side. Brandon had a ton of the same offensive attributes Rob does. Nice shot, good floater, shifty enough to get off in the midrange and get to the basket when possible. And the same negatives; plain to skinny to defend.

Personally I think Rob has a better feel than Brandon did at the same age, but Robs also playing off the bench which maximizes your abilities while minimizing your deficiencies. If he can go 8 and 3 and provide spark in some games, being able to handle 15-18 minutes of backup duty by years end that's a huge win for the Wolves.

I agree with the Brandon Jennings comp with the quickness and body type.

It's a little on the low end of expectations for Dillingham though.
I hope Dillingham ends up being a much better shooter and a better playmaker.

[thinktank]

Anybody have a game stream?

Can't seem to find one.

[winforlose]

Where can we watch game 2?

[younggunsmn]

It's in Des Moines so not likely to be televised anywhere.

[winforlose]

It's in Des Moines so not likely to be televised anywhere.

NBAtv has it. ****. NBA tv would rather show raptors vs wizards. BTW, Naz, Jaden, and DDV all have 1 foul thus far. Refs active tonight.

[younggunsmn]

Conley/Edwards/Divincenzo/McDaniels/Reid starting.

No Rudy or Randle in the starting lineup. No Embiid either.

[BlacJacMac]

Donte now 5/5 from 3 on the preseason.

6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists in 8 minutes.

[winforlose]

Donte now 5/5 from 3 on the preseason.

6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists in 8 minutes.

Ant still scoreless. I wish we could see how they are guarding him.

[KGdaBom]

Anybody have a game stream?

Can't seem to find one.

I buy the NBA league pass for $110 for the whole year. That's $9 a month. I live in Arizona so I don't have to worry about blackouts unless Wolves are playing the Suns. I have been having Tech difficulties today.

[m2002brian]

Where can we watch game 2?

https://pre.topstreams.me/match/nba/minnesota-timberwolves-vs-philadelphia-76ers/12731848

Try “link 2” under the video

[KGdaBom]

Where can we watch game 2?

https://pre.topstreams.me/match/nba/minnesota-timberwolves-vs-philadelphia-76ers/12731848

Try “link 2” under the video

I do it that way for NFL, but NBA league pass to me is such a good deal that I pay.

[KGdaBom]

Naz lighting it up.