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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#61 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:14 pm

Mattya wrote:
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KGdaBom wrote:With Morant he has never shown any remorse or contrition. He continues to do the same things over and over and over again. You understand that when you aim a laser targeting device at a person you are making a threat on their life. I believe in forgiveness. It's not my job to punish people. I leave that to the courts. To get my forgiveness show me a change and pay the time for whatever crime you committed. I'm more forgiving of Miles. I'm not saying I want Miles on my team.


Just a pathetic and weak response to your own hypocrisy. What f'ing change has Bridges shown to have you so eager to forgive him? Was it the apology he gave in a press conference in July 2023 roughly 3 months before he was charged again for violating the protective order against him where he was throwing pool balls at his ex's car destroying her windshield and denting the windows, as well as his current girlfriend was kicking the car, all while his kids were in the car? Why are you so sympathetic to someone this violent around women and kids?

I'm not particularly sympathetic to Miles. He did the crime he did the time. No incidences in a long time now. IMO it's time to move on. Ja just never stops. In a few years I can move on with him also.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#62 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:19 pm

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Why?

How is using a laser pointer worse than what Bridges did?

On June 29, 2022, Bridges was arrested in Los Angeles for felony domestic violence and was released on $130,000 bond.[78] He allegedly assaulted Mychelle Johnson in front of their two children. According to Johnson's hospital report which she posted to Instagram, she was an "adult victim of abuse by male partner" which included assault by strangulation, brain concussion, closed fracture of nasal bone, contusion of rib, multiple bruises, and a neck muscle strain. On July 19, Bridges was charged with one felony count of injuring a child's parent and two felony counts of child abuse. The following day, he pled not guilty to all three charges at his arraignment. On November 3, he pled no contest to the felony domestic charge and was sentenced to three years of probation. The other two charges were dismissed.

In October 2023, Bridges was charged with violating his probation and protection order after an October 6 incident where he allegedly threw billiard balls at Johnson's car, breaking her windshield while their children were inside the car. Bridges' current girlfriend is also alleged to have kicked the car while yelling in Johnson's direction. Bridges turned himself in on October 13 and was released upon paying $1,000 bond. At this time, Bridges had an outstanding warrant stemming from January 2023 that had yet to be served.

I know what Miles did and it was bad. He has changed. Ja has not. Not changed one Iota. Do we know Ja just used a laser pointer? What makes you so sure it wasn't an actual weapon equipped with a laser targeting device? Based on my knowlege of Ja I'm inclined to believe the latter more than the former. I'm more sympathetic and forgiving on Miles. He did the crime and did the time. You might not think he did enough time/received enough punishment. Miles received the sentence that the courts deemed appropriate. I'm not a court of law and it isn't my job to dole out punishment. What good does continuing to punish Miles do? Should we eliminate him from doing the job he is best suited for? He has children to support.


He has children to support? The guy who has used his child support payment as leverage against allegations being made public about himself. This is psychotic levels of cope.

Does he or does he not have children to support? I don't know about the child support leverage situation you are talking about. Is it happening now or was it years ago. I'm not actively looking for additional reasons to be angry at Miles Bridges. He doesn't matter much to me. If it's so important to you that I show less forgiveness to Miles than I have (and it's not much) present me the evidence. I'll reconsider.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#63 » by Slim Tubby » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:19 pm

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Why?

How is using a laser pointer worse than what Bridges did?

On June 29, 2022, Bridges was arrested in Los Angeles for felony domestic violence and was released on $130,000 bond.[78] He allegedly assaulted Mychelle Johnson in front of their two children. According to Johnson's hospital report which she posted to Instagram, she was an "adult victim of abuse by male partner" which included assault by strangulation, brain concussion, closed fracture of nasal bone, contusion of rib, multiple bruises, and a neck muscle strain. On July 19, Bridges was charged with one felony count of injuring a child's parent and two felony counts of child abuse. The following day, he pled not guilty to all three charges at his arraignment. On November 3, he pled no contest to the felony domestic charge and was sentenced to three years of probation. The other two charges were dismissed.

In October 2023, Bridges was charged with violating his probation and protection order after an October 6 incident where he allegedly threw billiard balls at Johnson's car, breaking her windshield while their children were inside the car. Bridges' current girlfriend is also alleged to have kicked the car while yelling in Johnson's direction. Bridges turned himself in on October 13 and was released upon paying $1,000 bond. At this time, Bridges had an outstanding warrant stemming from January 2023 that had yet to be served.

I know what Miles did and it was bad. He has changed. Ja has not. Not changed one Iota. Do we know Ja just used a laser pointer? What makes you so sure it wasn't an actual weapon equipped with a laser targeting device? Based on my knowlege of Ja I'm inclined to believe the latter more than the former. I'm more sympathetic and forgiving on Miles. He did the crime and did the time. You might not think he did enough time/received enough punishment. Miles received the sentence that the courts deemed appropriate. I'm not a court of law and it isn't my job to dole out punishment. What good does continuing to punish Miles do? Should we eliminate him from doing the job he is best suited for? He has children to support.
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Bridges beat the crap out of a woman and terrified their children on multiple occasions. There is no "change" for people like that...it's who they are with a terrible character flaw influenced by rage and willingness to commit violence. Bridges is human trash. It would disgust me to have him on our team.

Not so much for Morant...although I don't want him on our team for basketball related concerns. You got this one wrong, my friend.

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#64 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:20 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Why?

How is using a laser pointer worse than what Bridges did?

On June 29, 2022, Bridges was arrested in Los Angeles for felony domestic violence and was released on $130,000 bond.[78] He allegedly assaulted Mychelle Johnson in front of their two children. According to Johnson's hospital report which she posted to Instagram, she was an "adult victim of abuse by male partner" which included assault by strangulation, brain concussion, closed fracture of nasal bone, contusion of rib, multiple bruises, and a neck muscle strain. On July 19, Bridges was charged with one felony count of injuring a child's parent and two felony counts of child abuse. The following day, he pled not guilty to all three charges at his arraignment. On November 3, he pled no contest to the felony domestic charge and was sentenced to three years of probation. The other two charges were dismissed.

In October 2023, Bridges was charged with violating his probation and protection order after an October 6 incident where he allegedly threw billiard balls at Johnson's car, breaking her windshield while their children were inside the car. Bridges' current girlfriend is also alleged to have kicked the car while yelling in Johnson's direction. Bridges turned himself in on October 13 and was released upon paying $1,000 bond. At this time, Bridges had an outstanding warrant stemming from January 2023 that had yet to be served.

I know what Miles did and it was bad. He has changed. Ja has not. Not changed one Iota. Do we know Ja just used a laser pointer? What makes you so sure it wasn't an actual weapon equipped with a laser targeting device? Based on my knowlege of Ja I'm inclined to believe the latter more than the former. I'm more sympathetic and forgiving on Miles. He did the crime and did the time. You might not think he did enough time/received enough punishment. Miles received the sentence that the courts deemed appropriate. I'm not a court of law and it isn't my job to dole out punishment. What good does continuing to punish Miles do? Should we eliminate him from doing the job he is best suited for? He has children to support.


The courts didn't deem anything. He took a plea.

What makes you say he's changed?

Also, are you aware that it was't Ja that (allegedly) used the "laser targeting device", but a friend of his? Are you assuming Ja made him do it?

He took a plea and the courts doled out what they considered appropriate repercussions.

From my experience with Ja I'm always ready to believe the worst.
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Post#65 » by minimus » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:27 pm

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#66 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:29 pm

Mattya wrote:https://www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/news-is-this-behavior-you-allow-miles-bridges-ex-mychelle-johnson-puts-hornets-notice-emotional-plea-as-shocking-allegations-come-light

This is the guy who you want to be empathetic towards because "he has children to support" but Ja Morant is worse? How are people this forgiving of spousal abuse. Let alone care about his relationship with kids. He should be nowhere near those kids.

Thanks for the information. It's old news and doesn't move the needle much. I'm not particularly empathetic to him. Miles meets my threshold for moving on. Maybe if I looked into it more he wouldn't meet my threshold for moving on.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#67 » by Mattya » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:32 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Mattya wrote:https://www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/news-is-this-behavior-you-allow-miles-bridges-ex-mychelle-johnson-puts-hornets-notice-emotional-plea-as-shocking-allegations-come-light

This is the guy who you want to be empathetic towards because "he has children to support" but Ja Morant is worse? How are people this forgiving of spousal abuse. Let alone care about his relationship with kids. He should be nowhere near those kids.

Thanks for the information. It's old news and doesn't move the needle much. I'm not particularly empathetic to him. Miles meets my threshold for moving on. Maybe if I looked into it more he wouldn't meet my threshold for moving on.
I'm not in favor of removing people from employment that they are best suited for due to things completely unrelated to their job. I got into this on a football site with Jeff Gladney. I'm not going to go all out on the subject again. You do you. I'll do me.


2 days ago is old news and you want this guy around his kid? gross
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#68 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:34 pm

Mattya wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Mattya wrote:https://www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/news-is-this-behavior-you-allow-miles-bridges-ex-mychelle-johnson-puts-hornets-notice-emotional-plea-as-shocking-allegations-come-light

This is the guy who you want to be empathetic towards because "he has children to support" but Ja Morant is worse? How are people this forgiving of spousal abuse. Let alone care about his relationship with kids. He should be nowhere near those kids.

Thanks for the information. It's old news and doesn't move the needle much. I'm not particularly empathetic to him. Miles meets my threshold for moving on. Maybe if I looked into it more he wouldn't meet my threshold for moving on.
I'm not in favor of removing people from employment that they are best suited for due to things completely unrelated to their job. I got into this on a football site with Jeff Gladney. I'm not going to go all out on the subject again. You do you. I'll do me.


2 days ago is old news and you want this guy around his kid? gross

The report may have been from 2 days ago. The stuff in the report was old news as far as I can tell. I do think as a general rule it is good for Children to have both their mother and father involved in their lives. Maybe in Miles case it isn't for the best. I don't know. You do you. I'll do me.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#69 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:58 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Why?

How is using a laser pointer worse than what Bridges did?

On June 29, 2022, Bridges was arrested in Los Angeles for felony domestic violence and was released on $130,000 bond.[78] He allegedly assaulted Mychelle Johnson in front of their two children. According to Johnson's hospital report which she posted to Instagram, she was an "adult victim of abuse by male partner" which included assault by strangulation, brain concussion, closed fracture of nasal bone, contusion of rib, multiple bruises, and a neck muscle strain. On July 19, Bridges was charged with one felony count of injuring a child's parent and two felony counts of child abuse. The following day, he pled not guilty to all three charges at his arraignment. On November 3, he pled no contest to the felony domestic charge and was sentenced to three years of probation. The other two charges were dismissed.

In October 2023, Bridges was charged with violating his probation and protection order after an October 6 incident where he allegedly threw billiard balls at Johnson's car, breaking her windshield while their children were inside the car. Bridges' current girlfriend is also alleged to have kicked the car while yelling in Johnson's direction. Bridges turned himself in on October 13 and was released upon paying $1,000 bond. At this time, Bridges had an outstanding warrant stemming from January 2023 that had yet to be served.

I know what Miles did and it was bad. He has changed. Ja has not. Not changed one Iota. Do we know Ja just used a laser pointer? What makes you so sure it wasn't an actual weapon equipped with a laser targeting device? Based on my knowlege of Ja I'm inclined to believe the latter more than the former. I'm more sympathetic and forgiving on Miles. He did the crime and did the time. You might not think he did enough time/received enough punishment. Miles received the sentence that the courts deemed appropriate. I'm not a court of law and it isn't my job to dole out punishment. What good does continuing to punish Miles do? Should we eliminate him from doing the job he is best suited for? He has children to support.
Morant's issues are primarily derived from inexcusable immaturity and personal friendships with less than desirable individuals. His decisionmaking has been very poor...no excuses.

The NBA made an example out of Ja regarding his gun antics and rightfully so. Of course, the NBA seems completely incapable or blatantly unwilling to address their own internal corruption with the Clippers' Salary Cap manipulation. Let's also not forget about the NBA illegal betting scheme while they roll around in piles of cash from gambling entities...but those are topics for another thread.

Bridges beat the crap out of a woman and terrified their children on multiple occasions. There is no "change" for people like that...it's who they are with a terrible character flaw influenced by rage and willingness to commit violence. Bridges is human trash. It would disgust me to have him on our team.

Not so much for Morant...although I don't want him on our team for basketball related concerns. You got this one wrong, my friend.

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I don't want him on our team either. However, my attitude will always be after a person does the time for the crime I move on. I don't want to be a part of piling on additional punishment to a person who was already evaluated by a court of law. Not my job.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#70 » by BlacJacMac » Mon Nov 3, 2025 8:59 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I know what Miles did and it was bad. He has changed. Ja has not. Not changed one Iota. Do we know Ja just used a laser pointer? What makes you so sure it wasn't an actual weapon equipped with a laser targeting device? Based on my knowlege of Ja I'm inclined to believe the latter more than the former. I'm more sympathetic and forgiving on Miles. He did the crime and did the time. You might not think he did enough time/received enough punishment. Miles received the sentence that the courts deemed appropriate. I'm not a court of law and it isn't my job to dole out punishment. What good does continuing to punish Miles do? Should we eliminate him from doing the job he is best suited for? He has children to support.


The courts didn't deem anything. He took a plea.

What makes you say he's changed?

Also, are you aware that it was't Ja that (allegedly) used the "laser targeting device", but a friend of his? Are you assuming Ja made him do it?

He took a plea and the courts doled out what they considered appropriate repercussions.

From my experience with Ja I'm always ready to believe the worst.


The courts didn't dole out anything. A plea is an agreement between the prosecution and the defense.

Nothing was "evaluated by a court of law".
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#71 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 9:01 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
The courts didn't deem anything. He took a plea.

What makes you say he's changed?

Also, are you aware that it was't Ja that (allegedly) used the "laser targeting device", but a friend of his? Are you assuming Ja made him do it?

He took a plea and the courts doled out what they considered appropriate repercussions.

From my experience with Ja I'm always ready to believe the worst.


The courts didn't dole out anything. A plea is an agreement between the prosecution and the defense.

Nothing was "evaluated by a court of law".

The judge is not obligated to go with what the Prosecution and Defense come up with. However, I consider what the prosecution and defense come up with to be determined in a court of law.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#72 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 9:04 pm

No matter how much you want me to change my nature and be vindictive I won't. It's not who I am. Ja is an ongoing matter that never stops. He doesn't qualify for my rules of moving on yet.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#73 » by Mattya » Mon Nov 3, 2025 9:05 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Mattya wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Thanks for the information. It's old news and doesn't move the needle much. I'm not particularly empathetic to him. Miles meets my threshold for moving on. Maybe if I looked into it more he wouldn't meet my threshold for moving on.
I'm not in favor of removing people from employment that they are best suited for due to things completely unrelated to their job. I got into this on a football site with Jeff Gladney. I'm not going to go all out on the subject again. You do you. I'll do me.


2 days ago is old news and you want this guy around his kid? gross

The report may have been from 2 days ago. The stuff in the report was old news as far as I can tell. I do think as a general rule it is good for Children to have both their mother and father involved in their lives. Maybe in Miles case it isn't for the best. I don't know. You do you. I'll do me.


She is talking about what he is currently doing, if you dared to actually educate yourself before forgiving a spousal abuser. Zero consistency on violence in your values and it is very shocking how much you wanted to wash away abuse against women and children.
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Post#74 » by Mattya » Mon Nov 3, 2025 9:06 pm

This just isn't a serious person. He read "fresh allegations" from two days ago and says it is old news.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#75 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 9:06 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:
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2 days ago is old news and you want this guy around his kid? gross

The report may have been from 2 days ago. The stuff in the report was old news as far as I can tell. I do think as a general rule it is good for Children to have both their mother and father involved in their lives. Maybe in Miles case it isn't for the best. I don't know. You do you. I'll do me.


She is talking about what he is currently doing, if you dared to actually educate yourself before forgiving a spousal abuser. Zero consistency on violence in your values and it is very shocking how much you wanted to wash away abuse against women and children.

I read it. It didn't seem like much was going on now. I don't want to wash away anything. He did the crime and he did the time. Now I move on. You can be as vindictive as you want to be.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#76 » by Mattya » Mon Nov 3, 2025 9:18 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Mattya wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:The report may have been from 2 days ago. The stuff in the report was old news as far as I can tell. I do think as a general rule it is good for Children to have both their mother and father involved in their lives. Maybe in Miles case it isn't for the best. I don't know. You do you. I'll do me.


She is talking about what he is currently doing, if you dared to actually educate yourself before forgiving a spousal abuser. Zero consistency on violence in your values and it is very shocking how much you wanted to wash away abuse against women and children.

I read it. It didn't seem like much was going on now. I don't want to wash away anything. He did the crime and he did the time. Now I move on. You can be as vindictive as you want to be.


If you read it you wouldn't have called it old news. What is vindicative about not wanting him to be around his victims?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#77 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 3, 2025 9:29 pm

Mattya wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Mattya wrote:
She is talking about what he is currently doing, if you dared to actually educate yourself before forgiving a spousal abuser. Zero consistency on violence in your values and it is very shocking how much you wanted to wash away abuse against women and children.

I read it. It didn't seem like much was going on now. I don't want to wash away anything. He did the crime and he did the time. Now I move on. You can be as vindictive as you want to be.


If you read it you wouldn't have called it old news. What is vindicative about not wanting him to be around his victims?

I read it. Maybe not super close analyzing every minute detail. Nothing new of any significant substance that I noticed. It was mainly about him trashing her car years ago. It sucked. As for not wanting him to have any access to his children I'm not going there lightly. It's possible that would be for the best, but I'm not close enough to the matter to know for sure. So I'M NOT MAKING ANY JUDGMENT ON THAT.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#78 » by frankenwolf » Mon Nov 3, 2025 9:39 pm

OK can we drop the Ja vs Miles debate as to who is the worse person?
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Post#79 » by Klomp » Mon Nov 3, 2025 9:51 pm

frankenwolf wrote:OK can we drop the Ja vs Miles debate as to who is the worse person?

I agree, this thread has taken a rather gross turn
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#80 » by fattymcgee » Mon Nov 3, 2025 11:29 pm

For all of you calling Ja a loser and dragging his team down, here is the Grizzlies win/lose record with/without him over the last few years.
Other than 2021-2022 the Grizz had a much higher win percentage with him and in 21-22 they still had a .64 win% with him.

24-25
with 30-20
w/o 18-14

23-24
with 6-3
w/o 21-52

22-23
with 40-21
w/o 11-10

21-22
with 36-21
w/o 20-5

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