Nemanja Bjelica

Dleavitt24 · Post #601 » by **Dleavitt24** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:22 am

Projections sent to NBA teams Friday suggest that the league's salary cap is expected to balloon to $108 million for the 2017-18 season. The jump follows a projected $22 million increase -- from $67.1 million to $89 million -- between the 2015-16 and 2016-17 salary caps.

That 5 mills looking more like 3.5 mill

Mirotic12 · Post #602 » by **Mirotic12** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:42 am

UcanUwill wrote:http://www.eurohoops.net/2015/05/featured/98954

This is huge news. Fenerbache just got much much poorer. It was reported that Ulker formed two thirds of teams budget, nearly 20 million Euros.

They are just making much ado about nothing. It is same thing as when Efes had to change its name from Efes Pilsen to Anadolu Efes. Efes is still getting funded by the pilsen section, but they just can't say that, because they made a law saying they can't put certain kinds of companies on sports team names. And when that happened, all the same articles were everywhere how Efes would be even closed down as a team before the next season started. They actually have now a bigger budget than they did then.

Same thing here. It's a bunch of media nonsense.

The same company still pays and gives everything, in this case Ulker, but just can't put their name on it, because they pass a law deciding they don't think it's fair economic practice for certain companies to be able to do that with a club as enormous as Fener is.

That's all. As for budgets going up or down, most clubs change their budget up or down every year, or every 2-3 years (same for example as in NBA, or any US sports league). And in the case of Fener, they change their budget every 3 years. The 3 years of their budget was already expired, so the budget was changing anyways.

It's just media nonsense. It's the same kind of stuff how a few years ago they reported all over Europe that Olympiacos basketball team went totally bankrupt and was closing and shutting down within weeks or even days. Of course all the sources came from the fact that 50% of all sports media in Greece are owned by the current owner of Panathinaikos basketball team. None of the journalists bothered to check it, or were getting paid by that club owner of Panathinaikos then, so obviously wanted to report it. The simple fact was Olympiacos was changing their budget in net player income salaries, due to the fact that the Greek government changed the tax laws in the country, basically doubling them, meaning you had to pay twice as much money in budget for the same player in salary. Because they pay net income in Europe, and also pay the taxes of the players (and their agents). That was spun into the club is going bankrupt and will close within 2 weeks. It was reported everywhere.

Same kind of thing here. It's just spin on a typical kind of thing that happens all the time. Ulker can't legally put their name on the club or a jersey anymore, that's it. Same way the NBA does not allow that, or teams in the US sports leagues. That's all it is. A bunch of nothing.

FinnTheHuman · Post #603 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 6:10 am

LaViggins wrote:Nemanja Bjelica wants 3 year 15 million deal. Sounds like he will most likely be traded.

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I was expecting him to ask for at least 7 considering the incoming TV deal and his Euroleague MVP pedigree lol. I think Flip signs him and runs away giggling like a little girl.

LaViggins · Post #604 » by **LaViggins** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 6:49 am

I translated it on google and came out to this

Reported Nemanja Bjelica hut to go to the NBA , only problem is the unwillingness of t.wolves he wants to give a 3-year $ 15m , will wait for the swap .

And twitter translates it to this

Nemanja Bjelica has reported was going to the NBA club, the only problem is that he wanted $15/3yrs. does not want to give the wolves, will wait for the trade.

Sounds like they dont seem that interested

FinnTheHuman · Post #605 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 8:52 am

LaViggins wrote:I translated it on google and came out to this
Reported Nemanja Bjelica hut to go to the NBA , only problem is the unwillingness of t.wolves he wants to give a 3-year $ 15m , will wait for the swap .

And twitter translates it to this
Nemanja Bjelica has reported was going to the NBA club, the only problem is that he wanted $15/3yrs. does not want to give the wolves, will wait for the trade.

Sounds like they dont seem that interested

I don't think it's about the money, it's probably about Flip wanting to leave all the options open. Same way of doing business like with Love last summer. If Flip doesn't find a trade of value for us, there's no way he's letting him stay in Europe because of 3x5 mil.

MrTwister · Post #606 » by **MrTwister** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 12:16 pm

4-5m $ per season is some rate NBA teams bring good Euroleague players willing to jump to NBA.What he is looking for is somewhat reasonable considering his contract situation and other guys getting it before him.Mirotic signed for 3/18, Bogdanovic got 3/10, Saric is most likely to get same as Mirotic next season if he doesn't get under rookie scale salary.What i heard is 50/50 whether he makes a jump or not.

Post #607 » by **Worm Guts** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 12:22 pm

FinnTheHuman wrote:
LaViggins wrote:I translated it on google and came out to this
Reported Nemanja Bjelica hut to go to the NBA , only problem is the unwillingness of t.wolves he wants to give a 3-year $ 15m , will wait for the swap .

And twitter translates it to this
Nemanja Bjelica has reported was going to the NBA club, the only problem is that he wanted $15/3yrs. does not want to give the wolves, will wait for the trade.

Sounds like they dont seem that interested

I don't think it's about the money, it's probably about Flip wanting to leave all the options open. Same way of doing business like with Love last summer. If Flip doesn't find a trade of value for us, there's no way he's letting him stay in Europe because of 3x5 mil.

It seems to be more about whether Flip thinks he's that good.

FinnTheHuman · Post #608 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 12:33 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
FinnTheHuman wrote:
LaViggins wrote:I translated it on google and came out to this

And twitter translates it to this

Sounds like they dont seem that interested

I don't think it's about the money, it's probably about Flip wanting to leave all the options open. Same way of doing business like with Love last summer. If Flip doesn't find a trade of value for us, there's no way he's letting him stay in Europe because of 3x5 mil.

It seems to be more about whether Flip thinks he's that good.

I think Flip's a fool if he thinks Bjelica is not worth 5 mil a year. I would understand not taking him if we had anybody capable of playing quality PF minutes (outside of KG who is there for the next season only), but we don't, because if Flip's right in mind, he knows there's like 5% chance either of Bennet or Payne panning out.

There is no excuse not to take Bjelica unless we get a new shiny PF, so I'm off the Flip bandwagon if he messes this up.

LaViggins · Post #609 » by **LaViggins** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:46 pm

First Doogie now Jon, I dont think its a coincidence.

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UcanUwill · Post #610 » by **UcanUwill** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 11:51 am

Fenerbache lost Turkish semifinal series to Pinar Karsiyaka, 1-3. Bjelica would have faced Dario Saris and Efes in the finals.

Bjelica averaged (in the series): 9.75 pts. (48.3 FG%) 6.5 rbs. 2 asi. in 25 minutes per game.

Post #611 » by **C.lupus** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 2:37 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/607555139721920512[/tweet]

The Spurs being interested is probably all the evidence needed that he's better than Hummel.

Feilong · Post #612 » by **Feilong** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 2:47 pm

C.lupus wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/607555139721920512[/tweet]

The Spurs being interested is probably all the evidence needed that he's better than Hummel.

I don't know if he is better than Hummel (probably), but he is definitely more expensive. What would you offer him?

jpatrick · Post #613 » by **jpatrick** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 2:59 pm

I've been reported that it'll take at least 3 yrs $15m to get him to come over, basically the mid-level exception. I don't see us bringing him over at that price. What's his value? Could we get a mid-first round pick for him? Pick in the 20s? Would combining him with Bazz and maybe another asset get us a pick in the 8-10 range?

Post #614 » by **C.lupus** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 3:07 pm

The Mavs have #21 and the Bulls have #22. That would probably just get us into the Tyus Jones/Kevon Looney/Jerian Grant range of the draft.

I like Bjelica and 3/15 isn't an unreasonable salary for him. But he probably is a better fit on a win-now team and he's a positive trade asset so I'm good with trading him.

shangrila · Post #615 » by **shangrila** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 3:18 pm

C.lupus wrote:The Mavs have #21 and the Bulls have #22. That would probably just get us into the Tyus Jones/Kevon Looney/Jerian Grant range of the draft.

I like Bjelica and 3/15 isn't an unreasonable salary for him. But he probably is a better fit on a win-now team and he's a positive trade asset so I'm good with trading him.

Rashad Vaughn is another name to throw into that group.

Ethomasp31 · Post #616 » by **Ethomasp31** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 5:40 pm

The Heat pick 10th.... Could we build a trade around Shabazz and Bjelica for #10 plus fillers? Then trade Rubio & Dieng to Sac for #6, Stauskas and Collison? Then package #6 and #10 and whatever else (#31, #36) for #3 and take Russell and Towns? I know.....not realistic....but if we could come out of the draft with Russell and Towns while keeping Wiggins and LaVine that would be a pretty awesome young core to build around.

jpatrick · Post #617 » by **jpatrick** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 6:05 pm

Ethomasp31 wrote:The Heat pick 10th.... Could we build a trade around Shabazz and Bjelica for #10 plus fillers? Then trade Rubio & Dieng to Sac for #6, Stauskas and Collison? Then package #6 and #10 and whatever else (#31, #36) for #3 and take Russell and Towns? I know.....not realistic....but if we could come out of the draft with Russell and Towns while keeping Wiggins and LaVine that would be a pretty awesome young core to build around.

No chance Philly moves the #3 to us if Russell is on the board unless Wiggins is involved. Although, if Towns and Russell are gone, I could see them looking to move down if they are not in love with Mudiay.

mondry · Post #618 » by **mondry** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 6:15 pm

I really don't get all the enthusiasm for blowing the team up, I think it really is as simple as picking towns and then maybe trading something like Bjelica and the 2 2nds plus filler for a later first and calling a day.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #619 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 6:18 pm

sounds like a future 2nd round pick to me, which of course means cash since they've missed on 2nd round picks so many times that they don't even bother to try anymore

Post #620 » by **C.lupus** » Sun Jun 7, 2015 6:21 pm

mondry wrote:I really don't get all the enthusiasm for blowing the team up, I think it really is as simple as picking towns and then maybe trading something like Bjelica and the 2 2nds plus filler for a later first and calling a day.

Couldn't agree more. There might be an additional trade or two involving Bennett or Budinger and a minor free agent signing but that's probably going to be it.