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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#601 » by jscott » Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:09 pm

shrink wrote:Does the lack of signing a vet back up PG signal that Ant will be asked to focus his development on having the ball in his hands?

There are still some solid ones on the market. I don’t expect Tyus or Lowry to end up with us but you never know about a Dinwiddie or someone else.

Although, if that doesn’t materialize I’m certainly cool with the ball in Ant’s hands more.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#602 » by Klomp » Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:56 pm

I think it's very likely that the "third PG" will be someone on a two-way deal, whether Nix or someone else.

If someone goes down mid-game, we have enough extra ballhandlers between NAW, Ant, Joe, PJ to get through a game and then reassess from there.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#603 » by Nick K » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:00 pm

J Mac signs a 1 yr deal with Sacramento.

Good Luck J Mac.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#604 » by younggunsmn » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:10 pm

Jmac probably had a better path to playing time in Sacramento, but Monk will probably take most of the backup PG minutes.

We need another PG on the roster though.
It's a needlessly dangerous role to leave unfilled with a 37 year old starter and a 19 year old backup.

PJ Dozier doesn't deserve a guaranteed contract and I'd be surprised if we gave him one.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#605 » by Nick K » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:47 pm

younggunsmn wrote:Jmac probably had a better path to playing time in Sacramento, but Monk will probably take most of the backup PG minutes.

We need another PG on the roster though.
It's a needlessly dangerous role to leave unfilled with a 37 year old starter and a 19 year old backup.

PJ Dozier doesn't deserve a guaranteed contract and I'd be surprised if we gave him one.


Why don't we wait and see what we have with Dozier? We really don't know how well he runs a team. TC knows far more than we do right now. Plus, we have Daishen Nix that has nice size and is very promising.

Chances are Mike Conley plays the year without any severe injury.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#606 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:49 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:Jmac probably had a better path to playing time in Sacramento, but Monk will probably take most of the backup PG minutes.

We need another PG on the roster though.
It's a needlessly dangerous role to leave unfilled with a 37 year old starter and a 19 year old backup.

PJ Dozier doesn't deserve a guaranteed contract and I'd be surprised if we gave him one.


Why don't we wait and see what we have with Dozier? We really don't know how well he runs a team. TC knows far more than we do right now. Plus, we have Daishen Nix that has nice size and is very promising.

Chances are Mike Conley plays the year without any severe injury.

After what Klomp posted in the SL thread I'm thinking we just found our PG3. Nadir Hifi from France.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#607 » by BlacJacMac » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:51 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:Jmac probably had a better path to playing time in Sacramento, but Monk will probably take most of the backup PG minutes.

We need another PG on the roster though.
It's a needlessly dangerous role to leave unfilled with a 37 year old starter and a 19 year old backup.

PJ Dozier doesn't deserve a guaranteed contract and I'd be surprised if we gave him one.


Why don't we wait and see what we have with Dozier? We really don't know how well he runs a team. TC knows far more than we do right now. Plus, we have Daishen Nix that has nice size and is very promising.

Chances are Mike Conley plays the year without any severe injury.


That's a bold statement. 37 years old and never been an Iron Man. He's almost always going to miss 10-20 games.

Last year was his healthiest season since 2012. And he was still really dinged up in the Playoffs.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#608 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:52 pm

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Nick K wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:Jmac probably had a better path to playing time in Sacramento, but Monk will probably take most of the backup PG minutes.

We need another PG on the roster though.
It's a needlessly dangerous role to leave unfilled with a 37 year old starter and a 19 year old backup.

PJ Dozier doesn't deserve a guaranteed contract and I'd be surprised if we gave him one.


Why don't we wait and see what we have with Dozier? We really don't know how well he runs a team. TC knows far more than we do right now. Plus, we have Daishen Nix that has nice size and is very promising.

Chances are Mike Conley plays the year without any severe injury.


That's a bold statement. 37 years old and never been an Iron Man. He's almost always going to miss 10-20 games.

Last year was his healthiest season since 2012. And he was still really dinged up in the Playoffs.

10-20 games missed would not be what I consider a severe injury. I think the average missed games per player in the NBA these days is 12.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#609 » by BlacJacMac » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:54 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
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Why don't we wait and see what we have with Dozier? We really don't know how well he runs a team. TC knows far more than we do right now. Plus, we have Daishen Nix that has nice size and is very promising.

Chances are Mike Conley plays the year without any severe injury.


That's a bold statement. 37 years old and never been an Iron Man. He's almost always going to miss 10-20 games.

Last year was his healthiest season since 2012. And he was still really dinged up in the Playoffs.

10-20 games missed would not be what I consider a severe injury. I think the average missed games per player in the NBA these days is 12.


That's throughout his career. Guys generally don't get sturdier as they age.

Last year he only missed 6 regular season games - which is great. But he was playing hurt most of the Playoffs - which kind of killed us.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#610 » by minimus » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:56 pm

Klomp wrote:I think it's very likely that the "third PG" will be someone on a two-way deal, whether Nix or someone else.

If someone goes down mid-game, we have enough extra ballhandlers between NAW, Ant, Joe, PJ to get through a game and then reassess from there.


I think ballhandler is a better definition of this role behind Conley and Dilly. Third guy will be a ballhandler, not necessary PG, like we used to say. Bring the ball, and let Edwards and Towns run offense. Also Finch likes hybrid two-guard lineups. We saw Morris-McLaughlin, Conley-Morris etc. Thats why I think NAW/Dozier or whoever we bring as third ballhandler will see playing time in hybrid backcourt.

P.S. My biggest hope however, is that TSJ can play with the ball, not necessary as distributor, but someone who can attack offense of the dribble.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#611 » by minimus » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:57 pm

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P.S. We went from 6'1"-6'2" McLaughlin-Morris 3rd string PG to 6'5"-6'6" NAW-Dozier?

Seriously? How long have you been a fan of this team?


Yeah, I meant top5 favourite players.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#612 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:03 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
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That's a bold statement. 37 years old and never been an Iron Man. He's almost always going to miss 10-20 games.

Last year was his healthiest season since 2012. And he was still really dinged up in the Playoffs.

10-20 games missed would not be what I consider a severe injury. I think the average missed games per player in the NBA these days is 12.


That's throughout his career. Guys generally don't get sturdier as they age.

Last year he only missed 6 regular season games - which is great. But he was playing hurt most of the Playoffs - which kind of killed us.

It certainly didn't help. I was simply pointing out that missing 10 games or more is the norm now. To be what I would call a severe injury it would have to put him out for 20 games in a row or something like that. It's certainly possible something like that could happen. That's why we need to limit him to 28 MPG and give 20MPG to Dilly.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#613 » by Nick K » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:12 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
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younggunsmn wrote:Jmac probably had a better path to playing time in Sacramento, but Monk will probably take most of the backup PG minutes.

We need another PG on the roster though.
It's a needlessly dangerous role to leave unfilled with a 37 year old starter and a 19 year old backup.

PJ Dozier doesn't deserve a guaranteed contract and I'd be surprised if we gave him one.


Why don't we wait and see what we have with Dozier? We really don't know how well he runs a team. TC knows far more than we do right now. Plus, we have Daishen Nix that has nice size and is very promising.

Chances are Mike Conley plays the year without any severe injury.


That's a bold statement. 37 years old and never been an Iron Man. He's almost always going to miss 10-20 games.

Last year was his healthiest season since 2012. And he was still really dinged up in the Playoffs.


I really don't care about 10 games or so. What matters to me is health at playoff time.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#614 » by Nick K » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:15 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
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younggunsmn wrote:Jmac probably had a better path to playing time in Sacramento, but Monk will probably take most of the backup PG minutes.

We need another PG on the roster though.
It's a needlessly dangerous role to leave unfilled with a 37 year old starter and a 19 year old backup.

PJ Dozier doesn't deserve a guaranteed contract and I'd be surprised if we gave him one.


Why don't we wait and see what we have with Dozier? We really don't know how well he runs a team. TC knows far more than we do right now. Plus, we have Daishen Nix that has nice size and is very promising.

Chances are Mike Conley plays the year without any severe injury.

After what Klomp posted in the SL thread I'm thinking we just found our PG3. Nadir Hifi from France.


I didn't see that. I'll check it out.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#615 » by TimberKat » Mon Jul 8, 2024 10:50 pm

Since we are on the championship run, here is a list of still available free agents that I won't mind signing if we need to throw Minott, Miller, Luka, and Dozier under the bus and give away picks to make it work: Tyrus, Lowry, Trent Jr, Achiuwa, and Hayward. I would guess more than half will end up signing with 76ers. (Edit: adding Terrence Shannon Jr. to the list for Jones only)
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#616 » by winforlose » Mon Jul 8, 2024 10:56 pm

TimberKat wrote:Since we are on the championship run, here is a list of still available free agents that I won't mind signing if we need to throw Minott, Miller, Luka, and Dozier under the bus and give away picks to make it work: Tyrus, Lowry, Trent Jr, Achiuwa, and Hayward. I would guess more than half will end up signing with 76ers.


1. We have almost no picks to give away.

2. Tyus and GTJ are out of price range. Precious is almost definitely going back to NYK. Hayward is interesting but he wants a promise of minutes. If we would commit to him being #8 we would be in the running. That said, I dislike the move because we need more on ball guards.

3. PJ is not fully guaranteed. We can dump him and only eat some of his money. Why he got any guaranteed money in our cap situation is beyond me. My guess is he threatens to go to Europe again if we didn’t commit. Either way, #14 is still open.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#617 » by minimus » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:07 pm

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Post#618 » by minimus » Mon Jul 22, 2024 4:54 pm

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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#619 » by shrink » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:21 am

Keeping Dozier for the rest of the season would have cost $6.25 mil. Now that he’s waived, MIN has an open roster spot. The CBA allows 10-day contracts starting January 5, so I took a look at available free agents:

If Gobert goes down:

Bismack Biyombo: long and athletic, but dumber than a box of rocks.
JaVale McGee - Biyombo’s even dumber brother.
Frank Kaminski. Interesting. He’s not good, but he knows how to play. Apparently he’s been playing in Europe, and I bet he’d like playing closer to home.

If Conley goes down:

I assume Finch just uses Dillingham, but if he is trying to protect his confidence by letting him avoid facing starters …

Markelle Fultz
Dennis Smith
Killian Hayes
Malachi Flynn
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#620 » by winforlose » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:35 pm

shrink wrote:With Dozier waived, MIN has an open roster spot. The CBA allows 10-day contracts starting January 5, so I took a look at available free agents:

If Gobert goes down:

Bismack Biyombo: long and athletic, but dumber than a box of rocks.
JaVale McGee - Biyombo’s even dumber brother.
Frank Kaminski. Interesting. He’s not good, but he knows how to play. Apparently he’s been playing in Europe, and I bet he’d like playing closer to home.

If Conley goes down:

I assume Finch just uses Dillingham, but if he is trying to protect his confidence by letting him avoid facing starters …

Markelle Fultz
Dennis Smith
Killian Hayes
Malachi Flynn


Honest question because I don’t know the answer. How much does a ten day contract cost in tax?

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