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2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59)

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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#641 » by Worm Guts » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:34 am

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Worm Guts wrote:Flip isn't that bad and I saw him talking to Tyus Jones after the state title. Anyone who can get Tyus to Minnesota is worth hiring.

But to quote Tirion, I think Teague wants to go away from the U's version of the Good Ol Boys


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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#642 » by Klomp » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:36 am

Worm Guts wrote:The U doesn't really have a country club like the Wolves did.

True.

I just don't think Flip is the type of coach Norwood wants.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#643 » by Worm Guts » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:42 am

As far as recruiting goes the Gophers have typically been OK at keeping the elite guys in state and the junior class this year is the best in my memory. I'd hate to completely strike out.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#644 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:44 am

I didn't hear the interview, but those quotes look like a lot of legitimate questions, though probably they sounded ornery, and Teague gave tepid canned answers that basically confirmed all Sid's criticisms.

"your arena sucks, your budget sucks...how can you recruit"
Teague: "we have an unbelievable fan base and a great state!"

"Why would you get an elite coach ahead of a school like UCLA?"
Teague: "we're going to hire somebody you've never heard of! aroooooooo!"
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#645 » by Klomp » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:56 am

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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#646 » by Calinks » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:39 am

Damn. Well it raises questions. As I said, getting Tubby was a miracle for us. I don't know if we can pull that again and now we do have to start from square one. I am tired of others states like Wisconsin taking all of our best players. I don't know how the hell the Indiana's, Wisconsin's etc keep out recruiting us like nobodies business.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#647 » by [RCG] » Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:05 am

Hopefully we can nab Plumlee with out Memphis pick. I can see the Rubio-to-Plumlee alley-oop now.

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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#648 » by Vindicater » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:23 am

[RCG] wrote:Hopefully we can nab Plumlee with out Memphis pick. I can see the Rubio-to-Plumlee alley-oop now.

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I am still hoping for an Olapido/Franklin combo out of our picks.

Franklin is going to be a steal for whoever gets him late in the `1st. He will drop to his age but is a solid wing.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#649 » by moss_is_1 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:45 pm

I think we should definitely use both of our picks(assuming we still get both).

Grab someone like Oladipo, McLemore, Otto Porter, possibly Muhammad with our pick. Then with the Memphis 1st swing on a high potential guy...someone like Giannis Adetokunbo...sure he's raw as hell but he can learn behind AK for a year or 2 and then battle with Bud.

Then try and trade D-will for a veteran backup 4/5?
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#650 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:43 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:I think we should definitely use both of our picks(assuming we still get both).

Grab someone like Oladipo, McLemore, Otto Porter, possibly Muhammad with our pick.
Then try and trade D-will for a veteran backup 4/5?


I want both Oladipo and Porter and I'd be more than willing to use Derrck + Mphs pick to do so
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#651 » by zerogravity15 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:46 pm

I'd like for us to get a wing player who can score from the outside and defend, but I think all wings that fit that bill will be off the board, when our pick comes up.

Noel would be great too, but I doubt he drops further than 5, despite recovering from that ACL tear.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#652 » by [RCG] » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:51 pm

zerogravity15 wrote:I'd like for us to get a wing player who can score from the outside and defend, but I think all wings that fit that bill will be off the board, when our pick comes up.

Noel would be great too, but I doubt he drops further than 5, despite recovering from that ACL tear.


I doubt he drops farther than 3.
I don't want us to double up on positions again.
We need to take 2 out of 3 positions SG, SF, C.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#653 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:45 pm

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zerogravity15 wrote:I'd like for us to get a wing player who can score from the outside and defend, but I think all wings that fit that bill will be off the board, when our pick comes up.

Noel would be great too, but I doubt he drops further than 5, despite recovering from that ACL tear.


I doubt he drops farther than 3.
I don't want us to double up on positions again.
We need to take 2 out of 3 positions SG, SF, C.



What do you know about Archie Goodwin? Will he declare and does he have a good nba outlook? I was wondering about him if we keep that Memphis pick and he makes it there, but then I was thinking if his stock falls that far, would he even declare
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#654 » by [RCG] » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:12 pm

I think its 60% he returns to UK and 40% he declares. He might be the most athletic 2-guard in the country. He has a decent handle but is a poor shooter both from long-range and at the FT line. He can get to the basket and he can be a decent man-to-man defender but he'll need to improve his shot and handles and is a work in progress. He is worth a late-1st but his potential may get him picked in the mid-1st but again I don't think he'll declare.

With Harrison & Young coming in as SGs he may be pressed for minutes. I don't think he's likely to get picked much higher next year than this year even if he improves but it might be best for him long-term.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#655 » by jfg » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:39 pm

I'd love to see the Gophers shock everyone and go with a guy like Antigua or Wojo/Dawkins depending on who Duke wants to be the heir. Usually assistants have to take a smaller job first but I think it would be well worth the risk to go after one of those three. All are ready to take on a big program.
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Post#656 » by [RCG] » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:23 pm

I think Brad Stevens or Flip Saunders would be huge gets.

I don't get why Shaka Smart wouldn't take the UCLA job if offered. The premier program on the West Coast, more $, better recruits. Major conference that is fairly weak.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#657 » by jfg » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:45 pm

Job security and the fact that a big program doesn't mean automatic success like it has in the past. Really the only plus to going to a big school now is money. Prestige can be found coaching anywhere which wasn't always the case. Brad Stevens and Mark Few are probably top 10 when it comes to prestige coaches. Shaka Smart might not be that far out of it and will be in the equation if he continues his success at VCU. A big school can eat you up and spit you out like Howland at UCLA.

I think Smart would have made a terrible Big 10 coach, his style of play just wouldn't have been able to get through the Big 10 grind. I do think it would have fit at UCLA and the Pac-10. But other than the money, a school like UCLA is a huge risk for Shaka. He has a program that is continually successful and he knows it works at VCU. He's young, I can understand not wanting to throw away a career that is on the right path to go to UCLA.

Of all the big names I think only Flip and Hoiberg have a shot of coming here and I think Antigua , Wojo or Dawkins would bring Minnesota to heights that those two would never be able to reach. But all three come at the risk of knowing that you haven't seen them lead their own team and carry the weight of media pressure. I don't think any of those guys are that risky though. I know Antigua was on the short list for the South Carolina job and rumors are that Hofstra wants him. Dawkins most likely isn't leaving Duke because he'll be their coach in a few years. Unless it's Wojo's.
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Post#658 » by [RCG] » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:31 pm

Sure, but if you're afraid to make a jump when is the right time? If he wants to move up the ladder there isn't going to be a much better opportunity than UCLA, not like he's going to go from VCU to the NBA. I'd put UCLA right up there with Kentucky, UNC, Duke, Kansas. Keep turning down offers and eventually they won't keep knocking.

If he wants to stay at VCU that is his decision I would just think he'd want to take the next step. Hate to break it to him but VCU isn't going to win a championship.
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Post#659 » by jfg » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:49 pm

Word on Twitter is that the job is Hoiberg's if he wants it. Have a feeling he's going to turn it down.
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Post#660 » by [RCG] » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:28 pm

jfg wrote:Word on Twitter is that the job is Hoiberg's if he wants it. Have a feeling he's going to turn it down.


Yep. Sad to watch some of these college ADs flail around trying to hire guys out of their league and getting shut down.
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