2019 NBA draft part deux

[Nick K]

For the record, Towns on 2-pointers away from the rim is only 44.6% for his NBA career, compared to the 52.8% Clarke put up last year....

and does anyone here argue that Towns should be taking 2 pointers away from the rim outside of bail out shots?

You just said you don't want someone taking the ball away from Towns in the post. So unless he gets less than 3 feet from the rim (layups, dunks) on 100% of his post-ups, I guess he's taking either a lot of bail-out shots or he's hurting the offense by taking bad shots.

But hey, if that's what you want over someone who's 50% inside the arc at his worst....

That's exactly right. Clarke is an extremely risky pick to take at 11. Clarke should be drafted 25-35 based on his measurables and broken shot. If you take him 25 and he's mediocre or a bust then you can live with it. Taking him at 11 hurts the franchise so much if he doesn't work out. If he's great you can live with it. Find some other sleeper with your 2nd rd pick that's blows up to all star.

I still don't see it on Sekou. I've tried and tried. Huge risk. I keep coming back to safer picks like NAW, or PJ.

Bruno Fernando is a real sleeper that you could get teens or twenties but we don't need a center.

I still think Chuma Okeke will be better than Clarke, Sekou, and a whole bunch of others and you can get him late first or early second.
I hate this draft because I don't love-love anybody that we have a realistic shot at. I love Coby White for our team but he'll be gone.
NAW will surprise everybody. He'll be the quality of Gary Harris or Jamal Murray. I'll take that.

[Neeva]

Which is why I want the wolves to trade down.
Two shots is better than one not much difference this draft between players 3-25 IMO
But all other gms probably know that :/

[GeekFreak]

Which is why I want the wolves to trade down.
Two shots is better than one not much different this draft between players 3-25 IMO
But all other gms probably know that :/

100% agree, if possible I'd love to trade back with the Celtics. But it's not always so simple to do. Someone else might beat us to the punch, or they don't want our pick. There is not unlimited trade possibilities in the NBA like in the NFL where you have 7-8 picks. There can be very limited trading options.

[Crazy-Canuck]

It would not shock me in the least if Rosas went for Bol Bol at 11.

[CP1981]

Sekou looks like a guy who will either be real good in a few years or just a flat out bust. I don't see much Middle ground with him. It was a good article about him recently where some scouts didn't think he was any good . They didn't think he improved that much and really question his bball IQ

[GeekFreak]

It would not shock me in the least if Rosas went for Bol Bol at 11.

I think Bol is the MOST SKILLED player in this draft, and it ain't even close. If that was the pick my heart would fill with both fear and excitement at the same time.

[Nick K]

It would not shock me in the least if Rosas went for Bol Bol at 11.

Don't laugh. Bol Bol has serious upside. He can rebound, block shots and really shoot it. He could be Rudy Gobert like but a much better shooter. We don't need a center but who knows if they move Gorgui down the road?

[Domejandro]

and shot 38.2 % from 16-to the 3 point line and 12% behind the line. What an amazing shooter.

Never argued that Clarke is great on long 2s or 3s.

But I thought people wanted to eliminate long 2s? So why is it so important for Clarke to shoot them?

This conversation is painful and I am three pages behind, but the answer to this should be Intuitively obvious. It shows potential portability, as well as indicates his ability to develop from further ranges at an accelerated pace. I’m honestly flabbergasted that is a point of argument, Klomp, it isn’t like he is shooting 80% from the line so it doesn’t matter. The dude shot outside of seventeen feet like four times; it is fine to say “sure he has poor measureables for a Small-Forward and has demonstrated no ability to shoot from range, but his phenomenal athleticism and unbelievably high game sense defensively makes me willing to gamble on his ability to develop offensively”, but let’s not be disingenuous about his huge flaws.

[TheDominator273]

Damn 150 posts on Father's Day arguing about the definition of a jump shot? Can the draft get here already?

[GeekFreak]

Damn 150 posts on Father's Day arguing about the definition of a jump shot? Can the draft get here already?

I have no idea How people get caught up in such debates? I could care less. Or as Jim Peterson has taught me to say: "I couldn't care less".

[Klomp]

and does anyone here argue that Towns should be taking 2 pointers away from the rim outside of bail out shots?

You just said you don't want someone taking the ball away from Towns in the post. So unless he gets less than 3 feet from the rim (layups, dunks) on 100% of his post-ups, I guess he's taking either a lot of bail-out shots or he's hurting the offense by taking bad shots.

But hey, if that's what you want over someone who's 50% inside the arc at his worst....

That's exactly right. Clarke is an extremely risky pick to take at 11.

I was actually talking about Towns in the bolded, but whatever. I'm over the conversation.

[alabamawolf]

How would y’all feel about sliding Covington to the 4? He’s proven to be one of the best defenders in the league, better size than Clarke, and a proven shooter.

[Klomp]

How would y’all feel about sliding Covington to the 4? He’s proven to be one of the best defenders in the league, better size than Clarke, and a proven shooter.

If that's what they want to do, fine. But I'd hope we then add a SF in his place. I personally believe we need to keep Wiggins at SG where he can match up against smaller defenders.

[Calinks]

Three more days until draft!

[Klomp]

Three more days until draft!

I prefer this one

[Klomp]

I want to take this Brandon Clarke discussion a different direction. I think we've exhausted every possible angle about offense, but I would like to focus on his defense.

I still don't think he gets enough credit for his work on that end of the court. He's really good. And I personally believe that our defense needs far more improvement than our offense. Not only that, but I believe the frontcourt needs another jolt of athleticism. Towns is athletic, but Dieng and Saric are not. Bates-Diop or Covington can slide down, but I still don't think it's enough.

[wesleyt95]

I want to take this Brandon Clarke discussion a different direction. I think we've exhausted every possible angle about offense, but I would like to focus on his defense.

I still don't think he gets enough credit for his work on that end of the court. He's really good. And I personally believe that our defense needs far more improvement than our offense. Not only that, but I believe the frontcourt needs another jolt of athleticism. Towns is athletic, but Dieng and Saric are not. Bates-Diop or Covington can slide down, but I still don't think it's enough.

If we're only looking at defense i'd rather draft Nic Claxton 6'11 7'2 wingspan, great defender and even more potential at the next level, younger, can handle the ball

[YaleS]

I want to take this Brandon Clarke discussion a different direction. I think we've exhausted every possible angle about offense, but I would like to focus on his defense.

I still don't think he gets enough credit for his work on that end of the court. He's really good. And I personally believe that our defense needs far more improvement than our offense. Not only that, but I believe the frontcourt needs another jolt of athleticism. Towns is athletic, but Dieng and Saric are not. Bates-Diop or Covington can slide down, but I still don't think it's enough.

If we're only looking at defense i'd rather draft Nic Claxton 6'11 7'2 wingspan, great defender and even more potential at the next level, younger, can handle the ball

Brandon has the exact same measurables as rookie Klay Thompson, so I am curius how his strongest offensive skill - finishing around the rim will translate, as well as his best defensive skill - ability to switch and defent the rim too. He will probably be great perimeter defender, who can help down on most nights, but also be useless guarding the rim againts great competition/bad match ups.

[YaleS]

How do you feel about trading our pick this year? We lack the talent to go win now mode even with GSW probably out of the picture and for me, what we really need out of a draft is a young pg to pair with KAT. This years draft is very poor on pgs overall and taking a gamble on any of them seems like a really bad idea to me. I will go out on a limb and say that no allstar/very high level point guard will come out of this draft. Maybe players like PJ, Clarke, Nassir, Hayes will be good players and are worth a shot for most teams, but are they worth the shot to us?

[minimus]

Cant wait for draft night. We are not the luckiest team in NBA, but I hope that we will be the most prepared one. From top to bottom.