Pre-Draft Thread / Workout Updates

[shrink]

On second look, I wouldn't mind giving up the #26 to upgrade the #6 to get any one of those players. The next ones are Burke, MCW, McCollum, Zeller .. he has Shabazz much lower. Is that a gap?

I wonder if I see the Top 6 as a good selection now, then New Orleans would think the same, and be unwilling to trade for that price?

[Devilzsidewalk]

McCollum does know a bit about the Wolves;
http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/212082961.html

“They were last in the NBA three-point percentage for starters, and I’m a pretty good shooter,” McCollum said. “It all depends on team needs. Obviously, they have a really good point guard here in Ricky Rubio. The need is the 2-guard position, another guy who can knock down shots, score and help Kevin Love out down low. I feel like I’m that guy.”

I like it. Straight and to the point. No BS about "they already have a PG, I see myself as a PG too, but I guess I could maybe play a little SG if I had too..."

He's says we need a a SG, somebody that can hit threes, and "hey thats me!" Thats solid. And its not like when a guy who's tabbed to go 20-25 has to try and oversell themselves to a team picking higher than that range; if anything, #9 might be a spot or 2 lower than I'd expect. I'd still go w/ KCP, but I guess I wouldn't be shocked if McCollum turned out to be better, even by a decent margin. They're both guys that will need to create space on the perimeter, it's just going to be up to who has an easier time of adjusting to NBA defense.

[Esohny]

On second look, I wouldn't mind giving up the #26 to upgrade the #6 to get any one of those players. The next ones are Burke, MCW, McCollum, Zeller .. he has Shabazz much lower. Is that a gap?

I wonder if I see the Top 6 as a good selection now, then New Orleans would think the same, and be unwilling to trade for that price?

Eh. I think that the only one available at 6 would be Bennett. No thanks, unless there's some reason to think that both McCollum and KCP are gone before 9 (seems unlikely to me).

[cpfsf]

this thread kind of seems redundant. come on mods, what exactly are you paid to do here on these forums?

[Devilzsidewalk]

this thread kind of seems redundant. come on mods, what exactly are you paid to do here on these forums?

every thread and post on this entire forum is redundant. Except for mine which are all original and artistic pieces of legendary poetry.

Someday an internet archaeologist will compile my RealGM posts into a book that will overtake the bible as the best selling book of all time

[Esohny]

this thread kind of seems redundant. come on mods, what exactly are you paid to do here on these forums?

every thread and post on this entire forum is redundant. Except for mine which are all original and artistic pieces of legendary poetry.

Someday an internet archaeologist will compile my RealGM posts into a book that will overtake the bible as the best selling book of all time

I hope it's Steve Guttenberg. Then we'll call it the Guttenberg Devilznomicron.

[shrink]

this thread kind of seems redundant. come on mods, what exactly are you paid to do here on these forums?

every thread and post on this entire forum is redundant. Except for mine which are all original and artistic pieces of legendary poetry.

Someday an internet archaeologist will compile my RealGM posts into a book that will overtake the bible as the best selling book of all time

I hope it's Steve Guttenberg. Then we'll call it the Guttenberg Devilznomicron.

Awesome.

[[RCG]]

According to all the reports McCollum is a bright young man who possesses high BBIQ and most likely high general IQ. He's been sterling in all of his interviews apparently.

[Howard Cosell]

Ok.

I'm going to spice up this thread up a bit.

Post Final Twolves Trade-Up Prediction (if one happens, that is )

Howard Cosell:

The Wizards trade their 1st Round Pick (3rd overall) + Vesely ($3,340,920) + Seraphin ($2,761,114) + Booker ($2,350,820)

The Timberwolves trade their 1st Round Pick (9th overall) + 1st Round Pick (26th overall) + Derrick Williams ($5,016,960) + Ridnour ($4,320,000) to the Wizards.

C Okafor / #9 Adams
F Nene / Booker/ #38 Carmichael
F Williams/Webster
G Beal / #26 Franklin
G Wall /Ridnour

C Pekovich /Seraphin/Johnson
F Love /Cunningham/Booker
F AK47/Budinger/Vesely
G Oladipo /Barea/#52 Goodwin
G Rubio/Shved/Lee

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Mr.Cosell, I would invite you to start new threads when you have individual trade ideas.

Different teams boards do it differently, but here, with seperate threads we are able to keep the discussion centered on the individual deal. I also think it works well to direct people that are interested in these things (like me) to the threads, and people that are more interested in real moves can avoid the threads. Finally, I think that individual threads encourage visiting posters from other teams to notice these trades, and give comments from their local perspective.

Let me also say that I've appreciated the work you've been doing here lately. Keep it up!

[[RCG]]

T'Wolves and Bobcats swap:

Derrick Williams, Greg Stiemsma & #26 for Tyrus Thomas & #4

Rubio / Ridnour / Barea
#4 Oladipo / Shved
Kirilenko / Budinger
Love / Cunningham / Thomas
Pekovic / #9 Adams / Thomas

Walker / Sessions
Henderson / Gordon
Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor
Williams / Mullens
Biyombo / Stiemsma

#26: Tony Mitchell, Ricky Ledo, Glen RIce Jr, Jeff WIthey, Mike Muscala

[Howard Cosell]

Mr.Cosell, I would invite you to start new threads when you have individual trade ideas.

Different teams boards do it differently, but here, with seperate threads we are able to keep the discussion centered on the individual deal. I also think it works well to direct people that are interested in these things (like me) to the threads, and people that are more interested in real moves can avoid the threads. Finally, I think that individual threads encourage visiting posters from other teams to notice these trades, and give comments from their local perspective.

Let me also say that I've appreciated the work you've been doing here lately. Keep it up!

I will create a new thread "Post final Twolves Trade-Up predictions Here" and will move this over.

Thanks.


RCG,

Please move over your Bobcats Trade-Up prediction over to the new thread when you get a chance. Thanks.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Flip will make the right decision.

I think it's the first time in years, we can say that about someone in our Front Office.

He has absolutely no track record, how do we know he won't make the worst possible decision?

[Krapinsky]

Flip will make the right decision.

I think it's the first time in years, we can say that about someone in our Front Office.

He has absolutely no track record, how do we know he won't make the worst possible decision?

Because he doesn't seem like he would rather be fishing and when you hear him talk he doesn't sound like a total buffoon? That's good enough for me.

[Howard Cosell]

I think it's the first time in years, we can say that about someone in our Front Office.

He has absolutely no track record, how do we know he won't make the worst possible decision?

Because he doesn't seem like he would rather be fishing and when you hear him talk he doesn't sound like a total buffoon? That's good enough for me.

Me to.

For now.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Dont get me wrong, I feel pretty good about him so far, but there's still time for him to trade the pick for Afflalo or draft Zeller, so I want to see how this first draft shakes out at least.

[Wolves_Nation]

Flip will make the right decision.

I think it's the first time in years, we can say that about someone in our Front Office.

He has absolutely no track record, how do we know he won't make the worst possible decision?

No track record? He's been in the NBA for years. He had a say in building up the KG days here. He worked with the Celtics recently. He's been a HC for years.

[Devilzsidewalk]

all you did was list a bunch of stuff that isn't a track record of a basketball president

its the same as saying Jason Kidd has a storied head coaching track record because he was a high IQ hall of fame point guard. Its a solid foundation to build off of, but it's a record of exactly zero head coaching achievements.

[Saltine]

Read this, excellent work
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jus ... -Crop-4272

[Saltine]

I assume you don't realize it, but Mbakwe has a taller standing reach and a bigger wingspan than Zeller. Mbakwe is also a 6th year senior vs a 2nd year sophmore. Mbakwe is also very muscular. They were also playing in Williams arena this game with the crowd in a frenzy. There were reasons why this happened. Zeller has very elite athleticism along with very good basketball skills, however he is not a finished product yet. He at least has these two important things to build on. He will need to add some strength, but once he does, he could be a quite good NBA big man - maybe not a center, but 4 or 4/5.

I do realize it, Zeller just looks like a bust, to me.
Maybe I'm wrong, though I've been pretty good at picking Bigs over the past three decades.