Fun facts and unreal stats

Post #681 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:23 pm

winforlose wrote:Combination of Thibs, role, and team composition. Karl is still not the #1 option, if he shooting 3s there isn’t a lot of size for offensive rebounding. Also I watched the Knicks play last week and they said they are one of the lowest 3 point shooting teams in the league. 4th highest in make rate, but near the bottom in volume.

So were we the last few years....maybe there's a connection?

Edit: Can't even blame it on pace necessarily....Knicks are running faster than last year.

BlacJacMac · Post #682 » by **BlacJacMac** » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:41 pm

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Is this actually a question? One guy can dance with the ball and pop it, the other guy most catches and shoots, or is catching centers off a missed rotation.

There are a lot of factors. The game changed quite a bit with the GSW rise and dynasty. 3 point shots are the money ball of the NBA. Karl spent his younger years not being encouraged to have that volume. Also Karl spent the last few years deferring to Ant and trying to accommodate Rudy. That meant Karl had a lower shot volume. Also remember that KAT has been hurt a lot and that meant coming back from injury and spending time finding his rhythm which can take a while for shooters. It doesn’t seem like it should be true, but when you factor in all the variables and differences between the two, the picture starts to emerge.

So what's KAT's excuse this year? Because he currently has his lowest rate of volume since 2018-19. No more Ant or Rudy or injuries to blame.

KAT will never be a volume 3pt guy. He has a slow release and is even slower to pull the trigger. And he's not, in any way, a movement shooter that is going to get himself open. He really only took them with any kind of volume under Ryan when he was much younger and before his leg injuries starting piling up.

Post #683 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:28 am

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winforlose · Post #684 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:44 am

Naz Reid is the longest tenured Wolf. But in honor of our not facing GSW again this year, Naz is the only Wolf left who ever teamed with Andrew Wiggins. If Naz leaves or gets moved that means the entire roster will have turned over since the Wiggins trade.

Post #685 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:54 am

winforlose wrote:Naz Reid is the longest tenured Wolf. But in honor of our not facing GSW again this year, Naz is the only Wolf left who ever teamed with Andrew Wiggins. If Naz leaves or gets moved that means the entire roster will have turned over since the Wiggins trade.

Such is life in the NBA.

winforlose · Post #686 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:00 am

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:Naz Reid is the longest tenured Wolf. But in honor of our not facing GSW again this year, Naz is the only Wolf left who ever teamed with Andrew Wiggins. If Naz leaves or gets moved that means the entire roster will have turned over since the Wiggins trade.

Such is life in the NBA.

Especially when you trade most of the roster within 24 hours of trading Wiggins.

Post #687 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:51 pm

Minnesota was 7-6 in 3-point games all of 2023-24. The most games within 3 points played by a team last year was 15.
Minnesota is 7-6 in 3-point games this season. Next on the list this year are Detroit (7-4) and Denver (6-4)

winforlose · Post #688 » by **winforlose** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:35 am

“Michael C. Wright: Per ESPN Research Ant Edwards is now 0-12 on go-ahead/game-tying FGAs in final 5 seconds of 4th quarter or OT in his career. That’s 2nd-most misses w/out a make by any player since Edwards entered NBA (20-21). Only LeBron has more attempts w/out a make (0-19) during that span. 1 day ago – via Twitter mikecwright”

Copied from hoopshype.

P.S, Fire Finch for not learning from his mistakes.

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #689 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:36 am

Not surprising stats! ANT is not good right now at clutch time… but for his défense not much others players seems willing to take responsibility .

winforlose · Post #690 » by **winforlose** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:37 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Not surprising stats! ANT is not good right now at clutch time… but for his défense not much others players seems willing to take responsibility .

Why did Ant take 2 end of game shots in the last 2 weeks if he never makes them?

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #691 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:44 am

winforlose wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Not surprising stats! ANT is not good right now at clutch time… but for his défense not much others players seems willing to take responsibility .

Why did Ant take 2 end of game shots in the last 2 weeks if he never makes them?

This is a coaching things. Superstar or so call wanna take the last shoot . I remember Phil Jackson calling a TO during a PO game telling Pippen who was not having a good night that he will not have the last possession.Pippen leave the building, Kukoc score and win the game… and Pippen came back after a bit of drama but finally accept that.
As long as Finch don’t control more ANT things will never change unless ANT realise it on his own which is something i doubt.

Post #692 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:53 am

winforlose wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Not surprising stats! ANT is not good right now at clutch time… but for his défense not much others players seems willing to take responsibility .

Why did Ant take 2 end of game shots in the last 2 weeks if he never makes them?

You put the ball in your best player's hands when the game is on the line. You think Pop would be drawing plays up for Bruce Bowen or Avery Johnson? No, he got the ball to his best player. From there, it's up to the star player to make a play.

winforlose · Post #693 » by **winforlose** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:59 am

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Not surprising stats! ANT is not good right now at clutch time… but for his défense not much others players seems willing to take responsibility .

Why did Ant take 2 end of game shots in the last 2 weeks if he never makes them?

You put the ball in your best player's hands when the game is on the line. You think Pop would be drawing plays up for Bruce Bowen or Avery Johnson? No, he got the ball to his best player. From there, it's up to the star player to make a play.

Naz Reid

Post #694 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:40 am

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Post #695 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:45 am

Most 3-pointers in a Timberwolves uniform:
1. 975 - Karl-Anthony Towns
2. 971 - Anthony Edwards
3. 520 - Andrew Wiggins
4. 484 - Naz Reid

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #696 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:08 am

winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Why did Ant take 2 end of game shots in the last 2 weeks if he never makes them?

You put the ball in your best player's hands when the game is on the line. You think Pop would be drawing plays up for Bruce Bowen or Avery Johnson? No, he got the ball to his best player. From there, it's up to the star player to make a play.

Naz Reid

Actually we didn't need a 3 for this particular game. NAZ was an option, Rob speed could have been another one (unexpected situation for the opponent)... the problem with this team is that each time we are in this situation, ball go to ANT for hero time. The problem seems that the others teams know it too and just need to double team him and make his shoot difficult...

Post #697 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:31 am

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Only 13.3% of the Wolves' offensive possessions have come in transition this season (the lowest frequency in the league).

One thing that really drops their transition frequency is an unwillingness to get out in semi-transition. It's plays like this from Jaden McDaniels the Wolves need more of -- to get more transition opportunities, which will lead to more effective overall offense.

Post #698 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:33 am

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FrenchMinnyFan · Post #700 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:18 am

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Mike play well last 4 games, shooting more ( 52% at 3 last 4 games), getting the ball more in hands. Of course we need that specially without DDV. Last 2 games, 16 Assist/1 TO !When players are using their skill, we are a much better team. And may have a chance to go into the PO. Mike will almost never score 16- 18 per night but we need a Mike at 12 PPG/ 6 Assist every night.