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**The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two**

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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#681 » by shrink » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:39 pm

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You win. Karl is a positive player in the playoffs. What a great investment he’s been! So many playoff victories led by our highest paid man! :lol:

Thanks for admitting it. I appreciate your effort to acknowledge the truth is the truth, even if you emotionally feel the need to try to slip and slide away from your own words. (Price, $50 mil, lol).

“I wanted more from a player making $6, $31 and $34,” is a different discussion, and not what you initially said.

I hope in future posts you will turn over a new leaf and try to watch your own words, like positive, and try to use them more honestly, and by their true definition.

Playoff double-doubles are obviously positive. Even if they come from a player you dislike.


You’re caught up in semantics and missing the forest for the trees.

I will absolutely stick to my guns that, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (includes salary, my friend), Karl HAS NOT contributed positively in the playoffs. Not 11 and 18 for 50M per year.

You like that? You’re happy with his playoff output? You’d call it a POSITIVE?

For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?

Certainly not 50M!.

I am going to continue to call you out when you emotionally post untrue stuff.

Karl Anthony Towns has never played a single playoff game at $50 mil a year. As I just posted, his salary was $6, $31 and $34.

You just posted that people would pay $25 and $35. His average price tag for his playoff games was $24.

In my opinion, part of the problem with the forum isn’t people having different opinions, but posting false information to justify their opinions, and you my friend, are one of the main sources of it.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#682 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:43 pm

shrink wrote:
thinktank wrote:
shrink wrote:Thanks for admitting it. I appreciate your effort to acknowledge the truth is the truth, even if you emotionally feel the need to try to slip and slide away from your own words. (Price, $50 mil, lol).

“I wanted more from a player making $6, $31 and $34,” is a different discussion, and not what you initially said.

I hope in future posts you will turn over a new leaf and try to watch your own words, like positive, and try to use them more honestly, and by their true definition.

Playoff double-doubles are obviously positive. Even if they come from a player you dislike.


You’re caught up in semantics and missing the forest for the trees.

I will absolutely stick to my guns that, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (includes salary, my friend), Karl HAS NOT contributed positively in the playoffs. Not 11 and 18 for 50M per year.

You like that? You’re happy with his playoff output? You’d call it a POSITIVE?

For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?

Certainly not 50M!.

I am going to continue to call you out when you emotionally post untrue stuff.

Karl Anthony Towns has never played a single playoff game at $50 mil a year. As I just posted, his salary was $6, $31 and $34.

And you just posted that $25 and $35 was positive.

In my opinion, part of the problem with the forum isn’t people having different opinions, but posting false information to justify their opinions, and you my friend, are one of the main sources of it


Stop being emotional. Asking you a question is not making a statement:

“For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?”

Let me know when you get around to answering, Shrink.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#683 » by shrink » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:46 pm

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shrink wrote:
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You’re caught up in semantics and missing the forest for the trees.

I will absolutely stick to my guns that, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (includes salary, my friend), Karl HAS NOT contributed positively in the playoffs. Not 11 and 18 for 50M per year.

You like that? You’re happy with his playoff output? You’d call it a POSITIVE?

For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?

Certainly not 50M!.

I am going to continue to call you out when you emotionally post untrue stuff.

Karl Anthony Towns has never played a single playoff game at $50 mil a year. As I just posted, his salary was $6, $31 and $34.

And you just posted that $25 and $35 was positive.

In my opinion, part of the problem with the forum isn’t people having different opinions, but posting false information to justify their opinions, and you my friend, are one of the main sources of it


Stop being emotional. Asking you a question is not making a statement:

“For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?”

Let me know when you get around to answering, Shrink.


Do you want to apologize again, this time for continuing to say Towns was making $50 mil? He has never made $50 mil for any playoff game.

I will absolutely stick to my guns that, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (includes salary, my friend), Karl HAS NOT contributed positively in the playoffs. Not 11 and 18 for 50M per year.


If you want to say, “Once Towns starts to get paid $50 mil, I don’t think those future playoff games will justify that salary.” Fine. We don’t know what he will do in the future, so who knows. But saying his past production wasn’t worth his $50 mil salary, that’s a monkey flinging more crap.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#684 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:49 pm

shrink wrote:
thinktank wrote:
shrink wrote:I am going to continue to call you out when you emotionally post untrue stuff.

Karl Anthony Towns has never played a single playoff game at $50 mil a year. As I just posted, his salary was $6, $31 and $34.

And you just posted that $25 and $35 was positive.

In my opinion, part of the problem with the forum isn’t people having different opinions, but posting false information to justify their opinions, and you my friend, are one of the main sources of it


Stop being emotional. Asking you a question is not making a statement:

“For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?”

Let me know when you get around to answering, Shrink.


Do you want to apologize again, this time for continuing to say Towns was making $50 mil? He has never made $50 mil for any playoff game.

If you want to say, “Once Towns starts to get paid $50 mil, I don’t think those future playoff games will justify that salary.” Fine. We don’t know what he will do in the future, so who knows. But saying his past production wasn’t worth his $50 mil salary, that’s a monkey flinging crap.


You didn’t answer my question and you got emotional and insinuated I was a monkey flinging crap. (And you’re a shrink?)

I’ll ask again:

“For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?”

It’s in my sig so when you see me post you won’t forget to answer.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#685 » by shrink » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:52 pm

thinktank wrote:
shrink wrote:
thinktank wrote:
Stop being emotional. Asking you a question is not making a statement:

“For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?”

Let me know when you get around to answering, Shrink.


Do you want to apologize again, this time for continuing to say Towns was making $50 mil? He has never made $50 mil for any playoff game.

If you want to say, “Once Towns starts to get paid $50 mil, I don’t think those future playoff games will justify that salary.” Fine. We don’t know what he will do in the future, so who knows. But saying his past production wasn’t worth his $50 mil salary, that’s a monkey flinging crap.


You didn’t answer my question and you got emotional and insinuated I was a monkey flinging crap. (And you’re a shrink?)

I’ll ask again:

“For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?”

In those time spans, yes, for a main option. And he was certainly worth $6 mil in his first playoff series, and his average of $24 is certainly fine too.

Btw, stop saying KAT’s numbers weren’t positive for a $50 mil player. He wasn’t a $50 player.

It’s like saying Ant isn’t positive for a $75 mil player, which he might be in 2029.

You’re just flinging more poop, monkey. And you shouldn’t expect attention or replies when you lead off with dishonest stuff,
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#686 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:58 pm

shrink wrote:
thinktank wrote:
shrink wrote:
Do you want to apologize again, this time for continuing to say Towns was making $50 mil? He has never made $50 mil for any playoff game.

If you want to say, “Once Towns starts to get paid $50 mil, I don’t think those future playoff games will justify that salary.” Fine. We don’t know what he will do in the future, so who knows. But saying his past production wasn’t worth his $50 mil salary, that’s a monkey flinging crap.


You didn’t answer my question and you got emotional and insinuated I was a monkey flinging crap. (And you’re a shrink?)

I’ll ask again:

“For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?”

In those time spans, yes, for a main option. And he was certainly worth $6 mil in his first playoff series, and his average of $24 is certainly fine too.

Btw, stop saying KAT’s numbers weren’t positive for a $50 mil player. He wasn’t a $50 player.

It’s like saying Ant isn’t positive for a $75 mil player, which he might be in 2029.

You’re just flinging more poop, monkey. And you shouldn’t expect attention or replies when you lead off with dishonest stuff,


You’ve been reported for continued personal attacks. Nobody should be calling other people monkeys here. My goodness.

KAT’s production has flatlined. I’m not seeing any reason to think he’ll suddenly become worth 50 million dollars a year in the playoffs next year (if we get there).

And I damn sure don’t think he was worth 35 million in last year’s playoffs.

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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#687 » by shrink » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:00 pm

Was he worth $50? Some guy keeps saying he got paid $50!
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#688 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:01 pm

shrink wrote:Was he worth $50? Some guy keeps saying he got paid $50!


Where did I say he got paid 50 million? I didn’t.

I’m simply pointing out that:

-he’s putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs
-we’re paying 50 million for him next year
-I don’t expect him to suddenly figure it out in his 8th year (4th year in playoffs) and raise those averages
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#689 » by shrink » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:05 pm

thinktank wrote:
shrink wrote:Was he worth $50? Some guy keeps saying he got paid $50!


Where did I say he got paid 50 million? I didn’t.

thinktank wrote:I will absolutely stick to my guns that, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (includes salary, my friend), Karl HAS NOT contributed positively in the playoffs. Not 11 and 18 for 50M per year.

And many times before. Fling fling
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#690 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:07 pm

shrink wrote:
thinktank wrote:
shrink wrote:Was he worth $50? Some guy keeps saying he got paid $50!


Where did I say he got paid 50 million? I didn’t.

thinktank wrote:I will absolutely stick to my guns that, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (includes salary, my friend), Karl HAS NOT contributed positively in the playoffs. Not 11 and 18 for 50M per year.

Fling fling


HE’S NOT WORTH 50 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.
I don’t think a guy with a track record of 11 and 18 in the playoffs is worth that amount of money going forward. Do you understand?

My original post before we were sidetracked with semantics and name-calling:

thinktank wrote:It shouldn’t be controversial to say that Towns isn’t a good defender. He’s neutral at best. You’re right that he scores a ton and he’s been a positive player—in the regular season…
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#691 » by shrink » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:12 pm

thinktank wrote:
shrink wrote:
thinktank wrote:
Where did I say he got paid 50 million? I didn’t.

thinktank wrote:I will absolutely stick to my guns that, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (includes salary, my friend), Karl HAS NOT contributed positively in the playoffs. Not 11 and 18 for 50M per year.

Fling fling


HE’S NOT WORTH 50 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.

Way to accept responsibility for your words. It must have been someone else that made that quote.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#692 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:23 pm

shrink wrote:
thinktank wrote:
shrink wrote:
Fling fling


HE’S NOT WORTH 50 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.

Way to accept responsibility for your words. It must have been someone else that made that quote.


He's not been a positive player in the playoffs.

18 and 11 is below average production from a #1 or #2 player on a playoff team.

I'm sorry you can't admit that truth or even acknowledge it. It hurts you so bad that you have to ultimately resort to calling me a monkey. :noway:
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Post#693 » by Klomp » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:29 pm

thinktank wrote:I will absolutely stick to my guns that, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (includes salary, my friend), Karl HAS NOT contributed positively in the playoffs. Not 11 and 18 for 50M per year.

You like that? You’re happy with his playoff output? You’d call it a POSITIVE?

For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?

Certainly not 50M!

If you have a player putting up 11 and 18 on 50M per in the playoffs you are looking at that NEGATIVELY and you are desperately looking to REALLOCATE RESOURCES.

If Karl does that again he is GONE because that is NEGATIVE.

He doesn't make $50M a year
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#694 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:31 pm

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thinktank wrote:I will absolutely stick to my guns that, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED (includes salary, my friend), Karl HAS NOT contributed positively in the playoffs. Not 11 and 18 for 50M per year.

You like that? You’re happy with his playoff output? You’d call it a POSITIVE?

For a guy putting up 11 and 18 in the playoffs, what would you like to pay for that?

25M? 35M?

Certainly not 50M!

If you have a player putting up 11 and 18 on 50M per in the playoffs you are looking at that NEGATIVELY and you are desperately looking to REALLOCATE RESOURCES.

If Karl does that again he is GONE because that is NEGATIVE.

He doesn't make $50M a year


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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#695 » by shrink » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:31 pm

18 and 11 is a positive player.

Towns never played a single playoff game making $50 mil a year.

thinktank wrote:I'm sorry you can't admit that truth or even acknowledge it.

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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#696 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:33 pm

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11 and 18 from a #1 or #2 is not a positive player.

Ludacris to think it is. Maybe if you completely ignore context—but why would anyone do that? ;)

Also ridiculous to allow a poster to call another poster a monkey. No bias on this board—nope. ;)
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#697 » by shrink » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:39 pm

thinktank wrote:35
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11 and 18 from a #1 or #2 is not a positive player.

Ludacris to think it is.

So to summarize your shifting argument, it’s

“Towns wasn’t a positive player. Ok, I admit 18-11 was a positive player, but but.. let me add new criteria! I can still say wasn’t positive making $50 mil a year. Oh well he didn’t make $50 mil a year in any of his playoff games? ok, well it’s not positive then if I label him a #1 or #2 player. Yeah, that’s it. See? Not a positive player. Why can’t you guys see the truth?”

That about it, or do you have more flinging? :roll:
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#698 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:41 pm

shrink wrote:
thinktank wrote:35
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11 and 18 from a #1 or #2 is not a positive player.

Ludacris to think it is.

So to summarize your shifting argument, it’s

“Towns wasn’t a positive player. Ok, I admit 18-11 was a positive player, but but.. let me add new criteria! I can still say he’s not positive making $50 mil a year. Oh well he didn’t make $50 mil a year in any of his playoff games, ok, well it’s not positive then if I label him a #1 or #2 player. Yeah, that’s it. See? Not a positive player.

Why can’t you guys see the truth?”

That about it, or do you have more flinging? :roll:


Are we allowed to call other posters monkeys here?

You’re off your rocker, son. Keep ignoring all larger context and focusing on semantics. That’s no way to evaluate a player’s contribution. A players contribution is RELATIVE to their ROLE and SALARY.

A minimum salary player contributing 5 and 5 in 5 minutes off the bench is a positive player.

A 35 million dollar player contributing what Towns did during last year’s playoffs is NOT a positive player. Those resources would be better off being reallocated.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#699 » by Klomp » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:41 pm

Anyone care to look up what the No. 2 option for the NBA Finals runner-up averaged during the postseason?
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#700 » by thinktank » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:45 pm

Klomp wrote:Anyone care to look up what the No. 2 option for the NBA Finals runner-up averaged during the postseason?


21, 10, 6 last year in the finals. 18, 10, 2 from KAT. Murray >>> KAT.

Murray is worth ALL his money. That box score doesn’t show his clutch shooting either.

Isn’t Murray putting up 25, 5 and 6 for playoff averages? That’s outstanding. Murray’s playoff averages go UP compared to RS.

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