Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[BlacJacMac]

I know Rozier is bad contract. But he and Mike handle the point when we need ball handling. And taking Rozier for 1 year is only way we get Ware. Green has a lot of experience for a 23 year old, and contract will be reasonable in a year or two.
Future is Green/Ant/Jaden/Naz/Ware.
(DDV/Clark/TSJ/#17/#31)

They're not giving us Ware to get out of 1 year of Rozier.

Green stinks.

Miami would have to buy in on Randle.
But fair enough. Green looks intriguing enough but I have not seen a ton of him.

Miami won't. Durant is significantly better than Randle and they wouldn't trade Ware for him.

Green has been in the league 4 years. He's still an inefficient chucker that plays no defense and his BBIQ is nowhere near a starting PG.

[Danimals]

Now let’s get focused on trading Randle!

[Domejandro]

I know Rozier is bad contract. But he and Mike handle the point when we need ball handling. And taking Rozier for 1 year is only way we get Ware. Green has a lot of experience for a 23 year old, and contract will be reasonable in a year or two.
Future is Green/Ant/Jaden/Naz/Ware.
(DDV/Clark/TSJ/#17/#31)

They're not giving us Ware to get out of 1 year of Rozier.

Green stinks.

Miami would have to buy in on Randle.
But fair enough. Green looks intriguing enough but I have not seen a ton of him.

Miami clearly laid out that Kel’el Ware was not on the table for Kevin Durant. They aren’t trading him for Julius Randle, absolutely zero world, or Kevin Durant would currently be in Miami.

[Domejandro]

There’s a decent chance that Minnesota just runs it back, which I’m a bit skeptical about. The Western Conference is only getting more stacked at the top.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

There’s a decent chance that Minnesota just runs it back, which I’m a bit skeptical about. The Western Conference is only getting more stacked at the top.

I'm not. ANT, Jaden, Naz, TSJ, Rob will keep improving and are young's. Rudy is okay on regular season. Unless we got a big opportunity for a start PG and a C matching with our Apron issues, running the same guys make sense. Probably less NAW but we got TSJ, Clark who can play more. Play more Rob to and less Mike at least first 40 games.

[jpatrick]

There’s a decent chance that Minnesota just runs it back, which I’m a bit skeptical about. The Western Conference is only getting more stacked at the top.

I think TC will make some kind of move. Even if it’s trying to get a Lonzo Ball type point guard.

I don’t see a major move out there unless we go nuts and try to get Zion, Markannen, or someone else that is not really on the market.

[winforlose]

We need ideas for starting quality PGs not named Lonzo ball. Lonzo ball is a 20 or 30 game per season player whose shot is far from consistent and his defense is not likely to hold up as his body wears down. Assuming we find this PG without giving up our core of Ant and Jaden, that leaves everyone else as trade bait. Also worth noting that if the NBA expands our team could have young prospects taken away. Assuming we can only protect 8, that is likely last years starters minus Mike. Then add Naz, DDV, (assume we lose NAW to free agency,) we probably finish by protecting Dilly and TSJ. I wouldn’t be surprised to lose Clark and maybe one of Minott or Miller.

[jpatrick]

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If this is what really was offered and turned down, Mr. white not coming to Minnesota.

[Loaf_of_bread]

There’s a decent chance that Minnesota just runs it back, which I’m a bit skeptical about. The Western Conference is only getting more stacked at the top.

I think TC will make some kind of move. Even if it’s trying to get a Lonzo Ball type point guard.

I don’t see a major move out there unless we go nuts and try to get Zion, Markannen, or someone else that is not really on the market.

Markannen would be quite a get, and a good one, just concerned asking price would be too much.

[Note30]

We need ideas for starting quality PGs not named Lonzo ball. Lonzo ball is a 20 or 30 game per season player whose shot is far from consistent and his defense is not likely to hold up as his body wears down. Assuming we find this PG without giving up our core of Ant and Jaden, that leaves everyone else as trade bait. Also worth noting that if the NBA expands our team could have young prospects taken away. Assuming we can only protect 8, that is likely last years starters minus Mike. Then add Naz, DDV, (assume we lose NAW to free agency,) we probably finish by protecting Dilly and TSJ. I wouldn’t be surprised to lose Clark and maybe one of Minott or Miller.

Go back in time 5 years and plan the team better.

[karch34]

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If this is what really was offered and turned down, Mr. white not coming to Minnesota.

I can’t believe that had any factual basis. I mean your fantasy league wouldn’t allow it to even be accepted.

[Loaf_of_bread]

We need ideas for starting quality PGs not named Lonzo ball. Lonzo ball is a 20 or 30 game per season player whose shot is far from consistent and his defense is not likely to hold up as his body wears down. Assuming we find this PG without giving up our core of Ant and Jaden, that leaves everyone else as trade bait. Also worth noting that if the NBA expands our team could have young prospects taken away. Assuming we can only protect 8, that is likely last years starters minus Mike. Then add Naz, DDV, (assume we lose NAW to free agency,) we probably finish by protecting Dilly and TSJ. I wouldn’t be surprised to lose Clark and maybe one of Minott or Miller.

Can't lose Clark no matter what.

[younggunsmn]

There’s a decent chance that Minnesota just runs it back, which I’m a bit skeptical about. The Western Conference is only getting more stacked at the top.

I think TC will make some kind of move. Even if it’s trying to get a Lonzo Ball type point guard.

I don’t see a major move out there unless we go nuts and try to get Zion, Markannen, or someone else that is not really on the market.

Markannen would be quite a get, and a good one, just concerned asking price would be too much.

You do know he's owed like 196 million over the next 4 years right?
And that he's always injured and John Collins was a much better player than him last year?

[younggunsmn]

Min IN: Cole Anthony, 16th pick, future 1st
MIN OUT: DDV

MEM OUT: Cole Anthony, 16th pick
MEM IN: Cap Space to extend JJJ and re-sign Aldama

3rd team in (Via TPE or MLE) DDV
3rd team out: future 1st round pick

Atlanta has a 25 mil TPE from Murray that expires July 7th.
Maybe they would take DDV for the 22nd pick

I just want to play 2k and grab all of the 1st round picks.
16,17,22, and 31

We grab
Demin
Fleming
Reynaud/Kalkbrenner
A good player who fell out of the 1st round or the 2nd of Reynaud/Kalkbrenner

And in a couple years we have crazy length and young depth like OKC

[Note30]

Min IN: Cole Anthony, 16th pick, future 1st
MIN OUT: DDV

MEM OUT: Cole Anthony, 16th pick
MEM IN: Cap Space to re-sign JJJ

3rd team in (Via TPE or MLE) DDV
3rd team out: future 1st round pick

Atlanta has a 25 mil TPE from Murray that expires July 7th.
Maybe they would take DDV for the 22nd pick

I just want to play 2k and grab all of the 1st round picks.

Why?

[younggunsmn]

Min IN: Cole Anthony, 16th pick, future 1st
MIN OUT: DDV

MEM OUT: Cole Anthony, 16th pick
MEM IN: Cap Space to re-sign JJJ

3rd team in (Via TPE or MLE) DDV
3rd team out: future 1st round pick

Atlanta has a 25 mil TPE from Murray that expires July 7th.
Maybe they would take DDV for the 22nd pick

I just want to play 2k and grab all of the 1st round picks.

Why?

Wolves - pick up 1st round picks for a small downgrade from DDV and get value for him before he leaves in 2 years.
Memphis - need to create cap space to extend JJJ
Atlanta/3rd team - Add a knock down shooter which is at a premium.

[shrink]

Now let’s get focused on trading Randle!

Start with the teams that didn’t get Durant for their PF upgrade.

[Domejandro]

Min IN: Cole Anthony, 16th pick, future 1st
MIN OUT: DDV

MEM OUT: Cole Anthony, 16th pick
MEM IN: Cap Space to extend JJJ and re-sign Aldama

3rd team in (Via TPE or MLE) DDV
3rd team out: future 1st round pick

Atlanta has a 25 mil TPE from Murray that expires July 7th.
Maybe they would take DDV for the 22nd pick

I just want to play 2k and grab all of the 1st round picks.
16,17,22, and 31

We grab
Demin
Fleming
Reynaud/Kalkbrenner
A good player who fell out of the 1st round or the 2nd of Reynaud/Kalkbrenner

And in a couple years we have crazy length and young depth like OKC

I would want to consolidate the picks a bit, but if there is any pathway for the third team to send a future pick instead of #22, this is a slam dunk, from my perspective. I don't think that Memphis would go for it, but if it is on the table, Minnesota should do it.

Effectively swap out Donte DiVincenzo for Cole Anthony (definitely a downgrade, but gives Minnesota a ball-handler) for #16 and gain a future asset.

[Domejandro]

Now let’s get focused on trading Randle!

Start with the teams that didn’t get Durant for their PF upgrade.

Honestly not sure that there is much juice to squeeze from the teams who were on Kevin Durant's list, outside of maybe Miami?

MIN: Duncan Robinson, Kyle Anderson, and #20
OUT: Julius Randle

Pretty awful for Minnesota. Maybe Miami offers a future first (I highly doubt it), but still seems like a bad choice for Minnesota.

Maybe a miracle trade happens, but it kind of feels like Minnesota is in a position where they will probably be (largely) running it back.

[minimus]

So... After KD trade my trade targets would be:

- Cameron Johnson as the best shooter wing on the market who might be available for trade

- Goga Bitadze and Jonathan Isaac I believe that these two can give us 90% of current Gobert production for 2/3 cost (35 mil vs 23 mil combined). Unfortunately, after Bane's trade ORL have put themselves in difficult situation with no room for additional trade

- Lonzo Ball! Enough said - a healthy Lonzo is a perfect PG for this team

- Jalen Smith as backup stretch five

- Fox if price is right. The best PG on the market who might be available for trade