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Re: Jaden McDaniels thread 

Post#721 » by KGdaBom » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:29 pm

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Re: Jaden McDaniels thread 

Post#722 » by KGdaBom » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:31 pm

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TwolvesFanRome wrote:This is a fantastic news!!!!

I disagree. I hope at least $20 million of it is unlikely to be earned incentives. WAY TOO MUCH!!

A few things to consider:

1. Contracts are all rising fast in the last month of so for these sub-Star players.

2. Non-FA-destination teams need team control, so five years is nice. Good to see players (Naz too) buying in here.

3. MIN avoids a year of indecision, and perhaps Jaden souring on us, like the Ayton drama soured him on the Suns

4. Jaden avoid a year of indecision, and can focus on playing basketball, not overdoing it for contract.

I get that this feels like a lot of money, but after that shock wears off, I think you’ll be happy in a few weeks with he deal.

Jaden is without question worth double that of Deni Avdija so maybe he should get $28 million a year. Is any off the contract incentives? I wonder if there is any possibility that his health will improve with the new contract signing.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels thread 

Post#723 » by KGdaBom » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:32 pm

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twolves31 wrote:With the new deal the only casualty next season (24-25) might be not bringing back Kyle Anderson to stay under the apron.


Conley too might be on his way out.

He might be.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels thread 

Post#724 » by KGdaBom » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:33 pm

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TwolvesFanRome wrote:After this extension (I am so happy about it!!!!!) Kat or Gobert trade the next big move ?

I suspect that we will have a better idea by January. If things aren’t going really well (like, Top 4 in the tough West), I think we’ll hear trade rumblings for both. KAT would return better value, so he’s more likely. But if things are going great, I wonder if Lore and ARod won’t just pay the tax? Remember, if they want public support for a new stadium, they need to get the public behind them. If their first move as full owners is to make the team worse to save money, the public isn’t going to like it.

Either way, I doubt Kyle Anderson will be back next year.

Also want to set the expectation that Wolves have a tough starting schedule 16 games schedule. I am glad they were serious about the pre season. We should be happy with a 8-8 start.

I don't care who is on our schedule. I won't be happy with any less than 10-6.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

Post#725 » by Clav » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:43 pm

I think McDaniels was going to command more on the open market, even if it is 27M per, he's a wing player that will be highly sought after, can't let him go to open market with thirsty teams all over the league looking for 3-and-D 6'9 wing players.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

Post#726 » by shrink » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:51 pm

I thought his floor would be Vassell’s deal. I think Jaden is a better player, on a better deal.

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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

Post#728 » by cmoss84 » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:02 pm

1) We have to get by the Joker to get to a championship.
2) How many people in the league can (as much as one can) guard the Joker and have some offensive game?
3) The defense of Jaden, ANT, and NAW will be a strong core-then comes all of the offensive options. I like this team. Yay.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels thread 

Post#729 » by Note30 » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:05 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
TwolvesFanRome wrote:This is a fantastic news!!!!

I disagree. I hope at least $20 million of it is unlikely to be earned incentives. WAY TOO MUCH!!


Bruh we pay Gobert 40 mill a year. This is a way better deal.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

Post#730 » by KGdaBom » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:05 pm

shrink wrote:I thought his floor would be Vassell’s deal. I think Jaden is a better player, on a better deal.

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Devin is a much better offensive player. Jaden is a better defender. If I could trade Jaden for Devin would I? Tough call, but I think I would. Hopefully we see many beautiful, unlikely to be earned incentives in the deal, that bring the cost down or he meets the incentives all the better.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels thread 

Post#731 » by KGdaBom » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:06 pm

Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
TwolvesFanRome wrote:This is a fantastic news!!!!

I disagree. I hope at least $20 million of it is unlikely to be earned incentives. WAY TOO MUCH!!


Bruh we pay Gobert 40 mill a year. This is a way better deal.

What does the amount we are paying Rudy have to do with Jaden's deal? Answer.. Absolutely nothing.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels thread 

Post#732 » by Note30 » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:10 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:I disagree. I hope at least $20 million of it is unlikely to be earned incentives. WAY TOO MUCH!!


Bruh we pay Gobert 40 mill a year. This is a way better deal.

What does the amount we are paying Rudy have to do with Jaden's deal? Answer.. Absolutely nothing.


Your opinion is we're paying too much for Jaden. By relative respect given the type of player Jaden is I would argue he's worth more than Gobert. Therefore if we are paying Gobert 40 mill, 27 for Jaden is a solid price.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

Post#733 » by BlacJacMac » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:32 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
shrink wrote:I thought his floor would be Vassell’s deal. I think Jaden is a better player, on a better deal.

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Devin is a much better offensive player. Jaden is a better defender. If I could trade Jaden for Devin would I? Tough call, but I think I would. Hopefully we see many beautiful, unlikely to be earned incentives in the deal, that bring the cost down or he meets the incentives all the better.


Is he? Vassell scored a bunch of points for the 29th ranked offense in the league.

Jaden shot better from everywhere on the floor but 16' out to the arc. And overall killed him on 2PT% (59% to 48%).

Granted, Devin shoots a lot more than McDaniels, and we don't know if Jaden's efficiency will scale - but if it does, he's probably the better player on both ends.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

Post#734 » by jpatrick » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:34 pm

I think this is a good deal. We get him at a set number. And as the cap escalates, it’ll look even better.

That said, no way do is see Rudy, KAT, Ant, and McDaniels all together in two years. The money would be too much and we’d literally have to strip everything else.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels thread 

Post#735 » by TimberKat » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:35 pm

Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Bruh we pay Gobert 40 mill a year. This is a way better deal.

What does the amount we are paying Rudy have to do with Jaden's deal? Answer.. Absolutely nothing.


Your opinion is we're paying too much for Jaden. By relative respect given the type of player Jaden is I would argue he's worth more than Gobert. Therefore if we are paying Gobert 40 mill, 27 for Jaden is a solid price.

You guys are a Gobert obsessed bunch. Everything that happens in the world somehow all comes back to him. Could it be that you just can't get over the fact we drafted Gorgui Dieng instead of him :D
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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

Post#736 » by TimberKat » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:40 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
shrink wrote:I thought his floor would be Vassell’s deal. I think Jaden is a better player, on a better deal.

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Devin is a much better offensive player. Jaden is a better defender. If I could trade Jaden for Devin would I? Tough call, but I think I would. Hopefully we see many beautiful, unlikely to be earned incentives in the deal, that bring the cost down or he meets the incentives all the better.


Is he? Vassell scored a bunch of points for the 29th ranked offense in the league.

Jaden shot better from everywhere on the floor but 16' out to the arc. And overall killed him on 2PT% (59% to 48%).

Granted, Devin shoots a lot more than McDaniels, and we don't know if Jaden's efficiency will scale - but if it does, he's probably the better player on both ends.

If we have the choice of Cam Johnson, Vassell, or JMcD as better fit for this team, I pick Cam or Vassell. However, if we get a PG that can score in high volume, I take JMcD.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

Post#738 » by Klomp » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:15 pm

As far as people who follow the Timberwolves on a daily basis, Dane Moore is the guy who probably understands the salary cap/luxury tax better than anyone.

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Re: Jaden McDaniels thread 

Post#739 » by KGdaBom » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:25 pm

Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
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Bruh we pay Gobert 40 mill a year. This is a way better deal.

What does the amount we are paying Rudy have to do with Jaden's deal? Answer.. Absolutely nothing.


Your opinion is we're paying too much for Jaden. By relative respect given the type of player Jaden is I would argue he's worth more than Gobert. Therefore if we are paying Gobert 40 mill, 27 for Jaden is a solid price.

Gobert's contract is his contract if it's too much or too little it has nothing to do with Jaden's.
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Re: Jaden McDaniels EXTENDS 5/136! 

Post#740 » by twolves31 » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:27 pm

From Wolfson
Was recording a chat w/ owner Glen Taylor when he dropped that deal would be done by today’s deadline. Mentioned how they got Jaden side to come down. That being said, seems like a very fair deal, especially after Vassell signed. Glen mentioned Vassell deal was a factor. #Twolves

Interesting that Vassell's deal was a factor in Jaden's deal getting done.

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