Re: Trade Talk (Part Eleven): 2022 Offseason Edition

[cmoss84]

Would you do Dlo and McDaniels/Nowell for Young? People are saying he is the next to demand a trade.

[shrink]

Would you do Dlo and McDaniels/Nowell for Young? People are saying he is the next to demand a trade.

Yes, but the Hawks would want a lot more than that.

I’d expect the winning offer would be similar to what Donovan Mitchell brought back. We’re talking Towns-value.

It would be kind of cool to put the king of defensive metrics and the king of offensive metrics on the same team though!

[cmoss84]

From a salary cap standpoint, would it be possible to have Young, Ant, KAT, and Gobert as a core4? Fill in with whoever around them?

[cmoss84]

Young, Jmac, Rivers
Ant, Moore
Vet, Minott
KAT, Knight
Gobert, Garza

Etc. Etc

[minimus]

What about Dlo and Nowell for Duncan Robinson, Oladipo, and Strus?

Duncan Robinson is a truly horrible contract. He was paid to be a shooter, and he can’t make a shot.

This year he’s a FG 35.6%, 3P 32.2%, 2.0 RB, 1.3 AST, 6.9 PTS.

Yet he’s in the first year of a four year deal that pays him $75 mil, $64 guaranteed.

Some experts say that Duncan Robinson is the worst contract in NBA right now.

[younggunsmn]

From a salary cap standpoint, would it be possible to have Young, Ant, KAT, and Gobert as a core4? Fill in with whoever around them?

Does that team score 150 pts/game? Because its going to give up 150.

[the_urre14]

Would you do Dlo and McDaniels/Nowell for Young? People are saying he is the next to demand a trade.

There´s not a single possibility that the Wolves get Trae Young. We don´t have a tradeable 1st Round, and a Russell+McDaniels trade package is basically an expiring contract and a good player, but not close to Young´s value in the league. It would only make sense trading Gobert or Towns for him, and I don´t think I would do that having to add also J-Mac for a small point guard who can´t guard no one, who has had attitude problems with every coavh and who, in my opinion, wouldn´t fit well with this version of Edwards that we have seen for the last games. But this is just my opinion. The fact is that we don´t have the pieces to trade for him.

[shrink]

Here’s a little experiment: Rank our strength vs other teams by position for 48 minutes?

For example, Center is probably #1, because against most teams, we have a better center than our opponent the whole game, whether those minutes are filled by Gobert, Towns, or Naz.

[shangrila]

Would you do Dlo and McDaniels/Nowell for Young? People are saying he is the next to demand a trade.

There´s not a single possibility that the Wolves get Trae Young. We don´t have a tradeable 1st Round, and a Russell+McDaniels trade package is basically an expiring contract and a good player, but not close to Young´s value in the league. It would only make sense trading Gobert or Towns for him, and I don´t think I would do that having to add also J-Mac for a small point guard who can´t guard no one, who has had attitude problems with every coavh and who, in my opinion, wouldn´t fit well with this version of Edwards that we have seen for the last games. But this is just my opinion. The fact is that we don´t have the pieces to trade for him.

I'd consider a straight KAT-Young swap. I don't know how much that works long term or anything but it would seem to balance things out a little more on paper...plus gets us out of paying KAT's supermax and avoiding having to pay Young the same (assuming he's worth it in a few years).

[jpatrick]

With ZERO picks to throw in, the only player that would remotely be semi-equivalent to Young would be Ant. I wouldn’t make that move, as it doesn’t cure the Towns/Gobert fit.

[shrink]

With ZERO picks to throw in, the only player that would remotely be semi-equivalent to Young would be Ant. I wouldn’t make that move, as it doesn’t cure the Towns/Gobert fit.

Trade Board is doing a trade value ranking right now, where KAT came in #18 and Trae was #19 (Ant was #16).

Personally, I wouldn’t trade KAT for Trae. While Young is amazing on offense, he is statistical the worst defensive player in the NBA by a large margin, and those problems seem unfixable. The offer would at least have to be Trae + John Collins for Towns and a resigned DLo to start to get me interested, and I still might not do it. Plus, I don’t know how much loyalty Trae would have to Minnesota, and players start to get to the level where they can demand a trade when they get up to KAT/Trae levels.

[Baseline81]

Trade Board is doing a trade value ranking right now, where KAT came in #18 and Trae was #19 (Ant was #16).

Personally, I wouldn’t trade KAT for Trae. While Young is amazing on offense, he is statistical the worst defensive player in the NBA by a large margin, and those problems seem unfixable. The offer would at least have to be Trae + John Collins for Towns and a resigned DLo to start to get me interested, and I still might not do it. Plus, I don’t know how much loyalty Trae would have to Minnesota, and players start to get to the level where they can demand a trade when they get up to KAT/Trae levels.

I would consider an offseason swap of Towns for Young.

As of now, the pairing of Towns and Gobert isn't working, granted the sample size isn't great. But this assumes the two never fully click. Unfortunately, we've seen plenty of years with Towns as center. In today's NBA, a contending team requires a better defensive center than he offers. He's simply a hard player to build around...

I question whether Young and Edwards would work. The two both like the ball in their hands. Young does provide something the team lacks -- FTA (career average 7.5).

[Colbinii]

With ZERO picks to throw in, the only player that would remotely be semi-equivalent to Young would be Ant. I wouldn’t make that move, as it doesn’t cure the Towns/Gobert fit.

Towns is right there.

I would never trade Edwards for Young.

[jpatrick]

With ZERO picks to throw in, the only player that would remotely be semi-equivalent to Young would be Ant. I wouldn’t make that move, as it doesn’t cure the Towns/Gobert fit.

Towns is right there.

I would never trade Edwards for Young.

This is true. I guess I wouldn’t consider Towns/Gobert because Atlanta would never accept them for Young. With Capela, Okungwu, and Collins (some consider center his best position) it would create a worse roster imbalance than we have right now. Could a three way deal happen? I guess. But a two way, one for one, superstar deal is almost unheard of. To find three stars to move at one time? I’d think impossible. And I don’t think Atlanta wants pieces for a rebuild.

[minimus]

With ZERO picks to throw in, the only player that would remotely be semi-equivalent to Young would be Ant. I wouldn’t make that move, as it doesn’t cure the Towns/Gobert fit.

Trade Board is doing a trade value ranking right now, where KAT came in #18 and Trae was #19 (Ant was #16).

Personally, I wouldn’t trade KAT for Trae. While Young is amazing on offense, he is statistical the worst defensive player in the NBA by a large margin, and those problems seem unfixable. The offer would at least have to be Trae + John Collins for Towns and a resigned DLo to start to get me interested, and I still might not do it. Plus, I don’t know how much loyalty Trae would have to Minnesota, and players start to get to the level where they can demand a trade when they get up to KAT/Trae levels.

I dont think you can be successful in NBA playing ONLY spread PnR (which is the best what Young does) with small guard who is liability in defense.

[Guidus88]

Only star player that is both a good fit with Gobert and reachable imo is Siakam

A trade based on Towns (+fillers) vs Siakam (+fillers) should be interesting for both side

I think that we can solve our pg problem in free agency by taking a good veteran (I suggested Conley last year but no one of you liked my idea…I guess that many have changed their mind now…)

[minimus]

Only star player that is both a good fit with Gobert and reachable imo is Siakam

A trade based on Towns (+fillers) vs Siakam (+fillers) should be interesting for both side

I think that we can solve our pg problem in free agency by taking a good veteran (I suggested Conley last year but no one of you liked my idea…I guess that many have changed their mind now…)

1) You trade Towns who have four full years of team control in contract for Siakam who will be UFA after 2023-24 season. Also TOR overpaid him because they had no stars, so he is paid similarly to Towns, but so I dont see any point in giving him similar to Towns extension.

2) IMO OG Anunoby is a better fit because of a) his positional versatility in defense b) more "affordable" extension

[TwolvesFanRome]

Have you seen the Marcus Smart tweets???

[jpatrick]

Have you seen the Marcus Smart tweets???

Yup. He’s done. Time to leave…the single life. He got engaged.

[Folklore]

Laker: Westbrook and Pat out
Rudy, Buddy and Nowell in

Wolves" Rudy, Dlo and Nowell out
Myles Turner, Westbrook and Pat IN

Pacers: Turner and Buddy out
Dlo, Nowell, Forbes in