Trade Talk (Part 15): Trade Deadline Day (and onwards!)

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[guest81]

There is no easy way out of the mess that TC put this franchise in. I'm going to bring in a new coach to try and unlock Jaden and get KAT playing at his peak again. We also need to get Leonard Miller more involved as he is someone who may have future star potential. Conley and Ant are dogs, but we need to get a backup point guard more integrated into the offense whether we resign Monte or sign Tyus Jones. I'd grab Killian Hayes as the next NAW project.

Are you drunk?

Lol a new coach. We have a great coach.

Mike Conley??? You surely can't be talking about Doofus Finch.

Name the coach

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Also we don't have the ability to trade for something better.

[KATKlownFeet]

Are you drunk?

Lol a new coach. We have a great coach.

Mike Conley??? You surely can't be talking about Doofus Finch.

Name the coach

Last year, I would have preferred Nick Nurse or Budenholzer over Finch and if I were GM I would have looked at them to coach the Wolves. They both know how to win at the highest level and can get the most out of their teams. I think a year ago, Spoelstra resigned with Miami and if he was open to moving, I would have tried to outpay Miami as he is a great coach.

I'm not sure who I'd pick right now but there are some names to consider. I like Steve Kerr if he were available and maybe if Golden State blows it up, he could be had. Anybody who has won a title has to be considered and so even though Wolves beat Vogel's Suns, he would have to be considered and then there are Chris Quinn, JJ Redick and Becky Hammon who are highly regarded for their basketball minds. Kenny Atkinson is another good basketball mind and great talent developer who would be interesting.

[minimus]

You guys trading Towns for mediocre offensive players when we are a mediocre offense just makes this team have a lower ceiling since the offense gets worse.

It's why the ideal trade(s) are for players like Trae Young or other offensive savants.

Well, on one hand we should avoid players who could not have contribute in current playoffs, on another hand we can see how some guys how were considered to be liability in playoffs over perform. The most perfect example is TJ McConnell.

Yes, Towns an elite offensive player. But he plays out of position in MIN, has questionable basketball IQ, prone to dumb fouls etc. I absolutely dont want Tray Young, because he is an antithesis of our defensive identity. If we can split Towns contract into two TJ McConnell level players who FIT and a FRP(young prospect), I'd do it in a heartbeat.

You want to trade Towns for 2 6th men?

I'll give you another example: I'll trade Towns for PJ Washington (46mil/3yrs) and Gafford (40mil/3yrs)

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I still struggle to relate this info to MIN, but I guess it will the most hottest topic this offseason.

[Domejandro]

Outside of Lauri Markkanen for salary cap reasons, the only player I would be comfortable considering a Karl-Anthony Towns trade for would be Kevin Durant, but with Anthony Edwards getting the All-NBA salary bump (roughly $7MM more next season), there is no world in which that can happen with the Second Apron (Kevin Durant makes slightly more than Karl-Anthony Towns, killing the trade since Second Apron teams cannon take in more more in a trade or aggregate salaries).

[guest81]

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Also we don't have the ability to trade for something better.

they made one of the best trades in Wolves history after the Gobert trade

[guest81]

Mike Conley??? You surely can't be talking about Doofus Finch.

Name the coach

Last year, I would have preferred Nick Nurse or Budenholzer over Finch and if I were GM I would have looked at them to coach the Wolves. They both know how to win at the highest level and can get the most out of their teams. I think a year ago, Spoelstra resigned with Miami and if he was open to moving, I would have tried to outpay Miami as he is a great coach.

I'm not sure who I'd pick right now but there are some names to consider. I like Steve Kerr if he were available and maybe if Golden State blows it up, he could be had. Anybody who has won a title has to be considered and so even though Wolves beat Vogel's Suns, he would have to be considered and then there are Chris Quinn, JJ Redick and Becky Hammon who are highly regarded for their basketball minds. Kenny Atkinson is another good basketball mind and great talent developer who would be interesting.

Nick Nurse- Only been past the first round 1 time without Kawhi on his team.

Bud- Has been swept in a ECF, something you fin unforgivable. Lost to an 8th seed as a 1 seed.

Spoelstra- I agree is a better coach. He was and is not available

Kerr- Just got an extension,isn't going anywhere

Vogel- Just got swept by Finch.

All the others you mentioned have zero track record and cant possibly say is better then Finch

[shrink]

What?

Get rid of Tim Connelly? This team floated around the lottery/play in games for 20 years before he came.

Get rid of Finch? Critics said that two big men couldn’t work, and many said we would be a play in team or worse this year.

Get rid of Towns? Most would say KAT had one of his best seasons, greatly improving his flaws (defense and stray voltage), while sacrificing his personal stats for team success.


Yeah, we got knocked out, but this team just beat DEN and made the Western Conference Final. Who predicted that at the beginning of the season? We will have internal development from Jaden (23), Naz (24) and Ant (22). Heck, if Mike can just teach Ant how to feed Rudy and make better decisions, we’ll take a big leap just in that! And success could lead to a new arena.

No need to tear this down - appreciate what we have.

[thinktank]

Will be interesting to see who's in charge.

Fire up the ownership thread!

[thinktank]

There is no easy way out of the mess that TC put this franchise in. I'm going to bring in a new coach to try and unlock Jaden and get KAT playing at his peak again. We also need to get Leonard Miller more involved as he is someone who may have future star potential. Conley and Ant are dogs, but we need to get a backup point guard more integrated into the offense whether we resign Monte or sign Tyus Jones. I'd grab Killian Hayes as the next NAW project.

A mess from tc? Did you start watching the wolves after the wcf?

??? Wolves had Ant, Jaden and KAT plus all their first round picks and capspace. TC gave away most of our valuable draft picks and spent remaining capspace on Rudy. That's the future mess TC put us in.

What a mess. 56 wins and WCF. Oh no.



We have every other draft pick from here on out and the only thing we gave away of much value is Kessler (#22 pick who is meh) and Keyonte George at #16 (also meh).

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Also we don't have the ability to trade for something better.

they made one of the best trades in Wolves history after the Gobert trade

That's not saying much.

[Note30]

A mess from tc? Did you start watching the wolves after the wcf?

??? Wolves had Ant, Jaden and KAT plus all their first round picks and capspace. TC gave away most of our valuable draft picks and spent remaining capspace on Rudy. That's the future mess TC put us in.

What a mess. 56 wins and WCF. Oh no.



We have every other draft pick from here on out and the only thing we gave away of much value is Kessler (#22 pick who is meh) and Keyonte George at #16 (also meh).

What? 2025, 2027, most likely 2029. And a pick swap in 2026. That's not every pick. That's this year and then that's it until 2028.

[Note30]

What?

Get rid of Tim Connelly? This team floated around the lottery/play in games for 20 years before he came.

Get rid of Finch? Critics said that two big men couldn’t work, and many said we would be a play in team or worse this year.

Get rid of Towns? Most would say KAT had one of his best seasons, greatly improving his flaws (defense and stray voltage), while sacrificing his personal stats for team success.


Yeah, we got knocked out, but this team just beat DEN and made the Western Conference Final. Who predicted that at the beginning of the season? We will have internal development from Jaden (23), Naz (24) and Ant (22). Heck, if Mike can just teach Ant how to feed Rudy and make better decisions, we’ll take a big leap just in that! And success could lead to a new arena.

No need to tear this down - appreciate what we have.

Are your memories just for this year?

Rosas got us into the playoffs in 2021. Thibs had us in the playoffs in 2018.

Rosas also built the future core of this team. Ant, Jaden, Reid.

Connelly came in and basically made two splash trades and signed Kyle Anderson. One of those trades mortgaged our future. Fuxk that bitch ash

Two big men only sort of works, it's playable, it's not like the best configuration in the world. It's not like people are heralding us as the new way to build a team.

Keep Towns. The only reason people want to move away from it is because it seems like the only move we can make.

[Note30]

Well, on one hand we should avoid players who could not have contribute in current playoffs, on another hand we can see how some guys how were considered to be liability in playoffs over perform. The most perfect example is TJ McConnell.

Yes, Towns an elite offensive player. But he plays out of position in MIN, has questionable basketball IQ, prone to dumb fouls etc. I absolutely dont want Tray Young, because he is an antithesis of our defensive identity. If we can split Towns contract into two TJ McConnell level players who FIT and a FRP(young prospect), I'd do it in a heartbeat.

You want to trade Towns for 2 6th men?

I'll give you another example: I'll trade Towns for PJ Washington (46mil/3yrs) and Gafford (40mil/3yrs)

Thank **** you're not the GM.

[guest81]

Also we don't have the ability to trade for something better.

they made one of the best trades in Wolves history after the Gobert trade

That's not saying much.

Lol what? Do you have the standards of the 60s Celtics or what?

[BlacJacMac]

??? Wolves had Ant, Jaden and KAT plus all their first round picks and capspace. TC gave away most of our valuable draft picks and spent remaining capspace on Rudy. That's the future mess TC put us in.

What a mess. 56 wins and WCF. Oh no.



We have every other draft pick from here on out and the only thing we gave away of much value is Kessler (#22 pick who is meh) and Keyonte George at #16 (also meh).

What? 2025, 2027, most likely 2029. And a pick swap in 2026. That's not every pick. That's this year and then that's it until 2028.

We still have a pick in 2026. And its most likely to be our own.

[guest81]

What?

Get rid of Tim Connelly? This team floated around the lottery/play in games for 20 years before he came.

Get rid of Finch? Critics said that two big men couldn’t work, and many said we would be a play in team or worse this year.

Get rid of Towns? Most would say KAT had one of his best seasons, greatly improving his flaws (defense and stray voltage), while sacrificing his personal stats for team success.


Yeah, we got knocked out, but this team just beat DEN and made the Western Conference Final. Who predicted that at the beginning of the season? We will have internal development from Jaden (23), Naz (24) and Ant (22). Heck, if Mike can just teach Ant how to feed Rudy and make better decisions, we’ll take a big leap just in that! And success could lead to a new arena.

No need to tear this down - appreciate what we have.

Are your memories just for this year?

Rosas got us into the playoffs in 2021. Thibs had us in the playoffs in 2018.

Rosas also built the future core of this team. Ant, Jaden, Reid.

Connelly came in and basically made two splash trades and signed Kyle Anderson. One of those trades mortgaged our future. Fuxk that bitch ash

Two big men only sort of works, it's playable, it's not like the best configuration in the world. It's not like people are heralding us as the new way to build a team.

Keep Towns. The only reason people want to move away from it is because it seems like the only move we can make.

They won 56 games, had the best defense in the league and made it to the WCF. How is that only kinda works?

[shangrila]

There is no easy way out of the mess that TC put this franchise in. I'm going to bring in a new coach to try and unlock Jaden and get KAT playing at his peak again. We also need to get Leonard Miller more involved as he is someone who may have future star potential. Conley and Ant are dogs, but we need to get a backup point guard more integrated into the offense whether we resign Monte or sign Tyus Jones. I'd grab Killian Hayes as the next NAW project.

A mess from tc? Did you start watching the wolves after the wcf?

??? Wolves had Ant, Jaden and KAT plus all their first round picks and capspace. TC gave away most of our valuable draft picks and spent remaining capspace on Rudy. That's the future mess TC put us in.

Ok, so what would you have done? If you're going to criticise the FO for the moves they made, let's see your hypothetical plan.