Knicks game thread.. or whatever.

[Araxen]

I'm firmly convinced Saunders does not know how to design an offense that revolves around KAT.

[SCTwins]

Feels like I let out a massive sigh at the end of every single game.

So much chances. So much stupid.

[_AIJ_]

Rubio smh

[_AIJ_]

Rubio is a **** idiot. Why the **** was he running around like a duck like were down a point? Stupid

[Lucamilo23]

I am so sick of watching Saunders coach. “Let’s wait for towns to get back to assess.” There is nothing left to assess. If Taylor thinks that there is more Saunders can show then he needs to be gone as well. I can’t recall a team that gave a coach this much time while showing nothing but trash coaching.

[wolves_89]

How does Rubio end up shooting a drifting 12 footer in the last minute yet again. That's a terrible shot that should never happen, especially not when the game is on the line.

Noone wants to shoot. What do you want him to do, let the shot clock run out?

I want the Wolves to run a play that doesn't have Rubio driving into the lane as an option.

[theGreatRC]

I like that KAT took the shot that could've gotten us the lead, just an unfortunate in n out.

What the hell was that last play coming out of the timeout, though? Saunders is a big yikes but the players keep vouching for him

[Domejandro]

It's pretty funny seeing people blame the coaching when it is the team's lack of ability that leads to them losing, over and over. At least there is some amusement in watching this miserable basketball.

[wolves_89]

I am absolutely convinced that the team can't be worse if Saunders is fired, and they would at least have a chance at finishing games better. I truly don't know what else the front office needs to see.

[RiRuHoops]

Wolves don't have a perimeter scorer who can close the games for them. I guess DLo is supposed to be that but he's also leaves a lot to be desired.

[LesGrossman]

The key play was the careless turnover where Ant missed KAT. That, and the lame offense that simply creates no openings. KAT tried his best, missed a shot, thats part of the game. Rubio with a buzzer runner, missed, to be expected. Noone else wanted to shoot or move.

I believe i can show this to someone who has no idea of basketball. Just by comparing the movement on offense between this team and one that works well, like Clippers, Nets, Jazz, you can understand whats wrong with the Wolves. I think it was an awesome game by KAT and Rubio and mostly garbage by everyone else but they managed a good run to catch up and close the gap the bench allowed which was a good sign. However, Saunders fails to create anything resembling a working, modern offense, he fails to make in game adjustments and he is very slow at correcting the players (apparently there are some corrections because Ant at least has stopped his selfish chucking, and so did Beasley). He does not understand hwo to close out games in which he has a lead. Its really getting hard to watch.

[RiRuHoops]

How does Rubio end up shooting a drifting 12 footer in the last minute yet again. That's a terrible shot that should never happen, especially not when the game is on the line.

Noone wants to shoot. What do you want him to do, let the shot clock run out?

I want the Wolves to run a play that doesn't have Rubio driving into the lane as an option.

Knicks broke up whatever wolves were trying to run there. Rubio was left with the ball and we know he's not a bailout artist. Wolves don't even have such a player currently.

[theGreatRC]

Wolves don't have a perimeter scorer who can close the games for them. I guess DLo is supposed to be that but he's also leaves a lot to be desired.

KAT-Malik-DLO are dominos. KAT can't really create for himself off the dribble, which is why he has DLO. DLO needs scorers around him to be effective, because he is also a good passer. Malik is a sniper from 3 but needs to be created for, something DLO can do.

DLO was brought in to be the guy taking these shots, but of course he's out. DLO needs KAT, KAT needs DLO & Beas, Beas needs DLO & KAT.

We just can't get them all healthy

[Dalvin]

I remember the season we also had multiple losses where we were leading a ton and losing a lot of clutch games but I don't remember being miserable watching those games. It was with Love, Rubio and Pek while still being with Adelman I think. It felt like because we were a young team and we just gotta execute better and it was surprising that we were even leading good teams by double digit, I guess back then we were operating under the feeling of we weren't supposed to even lead double digits to good teams. So it was a matter of exceeding expectations.

Right now, it feels like we're underperforming our perceived expectations. Or maybe, I just still haven't accepted that our team just plainly sucks.

[LesGrossman]

How does Rubio end up shooting a drifting 12 footer in the last minute yet again. That's a terrible shot that should never happen, especially not when the game is on the line.

Noone wants to shoot. What do you want him to do, let the shot clock run out?

I want the Wolves to run a play that doesn't have Rubio driving into the lane as an option.

Well you're free to want whatever cmes to your mind, however Rubio was the hghest % shooter of the team tonight so there wasnt anything fundamentally wrong to give him the ball. The real problem is more that eveyrone else looks frozen in their spots once they are off the ball; there are zero outlets because no cutting and no screening takes place. I refuse to believe htey are suposed to run but dont, after so many games. It looks like this is our "offense" and thats what the players said, too. There are no options or cuts or runs, Saunders just matches players to positions and they dont seem to know what to do once they are on that pposition.

[Nick K]

I am absolutely convinced that the team can't be worse if Saunders is fired, and they would at least have a chance at finishing games better. I truly don't know what else the front office needs to see.

Good way to put it. No way can we be worse with Ryan gone.

[winforlose]

Vando and Okogie both need to ride the pine. Ant needs to be 6th man off the bench. Jaylen needs to rediscover his game. My rotations Rubio, Beasley, Layman, McDaniels, KAT. Second JMAC, Nowell, Ant, Juancho, Reid. Let Juancho and Nowell be decoys until they prove they can consistently shoot. Meanwhile Ant and JMAC can draw and kick or PNR with Naz.

@domejandro I respect your opinion but I disagree. Take Beasley. Beasley excels at catch and shoot. We don’t run actions to allow him to catch and shoot. Our actions are usually dribble around the top of the key followed by shallow drive back outside and then take a contested shot. Our schemes don’t help on either end. We need to stop putting our guys in positions to fail. That starts with getting guys like Vando off the floor. He cannot hit layups or catch passes. That is the beginning and end of the story. Same with Okogie at the moment.

[RiRuHoops]

Wolves don't have a perimeter scorer who can close the games for them. I guess DLo is supposed to be that but he's also leaves a lot to be desired.

KAT-Malik-DLO are dominos. KAT can't really create for himself off the dribble, which is why he has DLO. DLO needs scorers around him to be effective, because he is also a good passer. Malik is a sniper from 3 but needs to be created for, something DLO can do.

DLO was brought in to be the guy taking these shots, but of course he's out. DLO needs KAT, KAT needs DLO & Beas, Beas needs DLO & KAT.

We just can't get them all healthy

Dlo can prove me wrong if he ever manages to stay healthy, but I don't have much belief in him. He will have his moments on occasions, but lacks quality overall . But you're free to believe...

[wolves_89]

Noone wants to shoot. What do you want him to do, let the shot clock run out?

I want the Wolves to run a play that doesn't have Rubio driving into the lane as an option.

Well you're free to want whatever cmes to your mind, however Rubio was the hghest % shooter of the team tonight so there wasnt anything fundamentally wrong to give him the ball. The real problem is more that eveyrone else looks frozen in their spots once they are off the ball; there are zero outlets because no cutting and no screening takes place. I refuse to believe htey are suposed to run but dont, after so many games. It looks like this is our "offense" and thats what the players said, too. There are no options or cuts or runs, Saunders just matches players to positions and they dont seem to know what to do once they are on that pposition.

If you think Rubio taking a fading mid-range shot in the last minute is a good idea, there really isn't anything to discuss since we clearly have very different views on how the offense needs to play to be successful.

[RiRuHoops]

I want the Wolves to run a play that doesn't have Rubio driving into the lane as an option.

Well you're free to want whatever cmes to your mind, however Rubio was the hghest % shooter of the team tonight so there wasnt anything fundamentally wrong to give him the ball. The real problem is more that eveyrone else looks frozen in their spots once they are off the ball; there are zero outlets because no cutting and no screening takes place. I refuse to believe htey are suposed to run but dont, after so many games. It looks like this is our "offense" and thats what the players said, too. There are no options or cuts or runs, Saunders just matches players to positions and they dont seem to know what to do once they are on that pposition.

If you think Rubio taking a fading mid-range shot in the last minute is a good idea, there really isn't anything to discuss since we clearly have very different views on how the offense needs to play to be successful.

lol it wasn't a good idea, it was a last option before the clock running out as nothing was there. If you can't see it or don't understand it's your own issues.