[Krawczynski] Ricky Rubio for Taurean Price, 2022 second, and cash.

[Domejandro]

I agree that Covington is the best comparison that we are the most familiar with

He isn't like Robert Covington, though. DeMarre Carroll is a closer (though imperfect) comparison. Robert Covington was a top-tier defensive player, while Taurean Prince is more-so just alright. It's still a good trade, but people should definitely recognize that Taurean is not a defensive monster.

People should recognize Neither is a defensive monster … Covington a little better defender but played alot of SF and Prince mostly PF. Prince shoots better 3pt%, FT% and more assists.

Robert Covington was objectively an extraordinary defensive player, during his prime. They are totally different players.

[Wolf_Cry]

This trade gets an F from me. Prince is a fine 3 point shooter, but doesn't bring much else. We need DEFENSE. Prince is not a good defender. We have enough offense already jesus christ. Not only that, but ALL our remaining guards are ass defensively. We just traded the one guard who can actually play defense. Also, Ricky was a mentor to Ant, who supposedly is a cornerstone for this franchise. I don't understand what Rosas is doing....I'm not saying this is a huge step back, but it's still a step back nonetheless.

[Wolf_Cry]

This is an awful trade if you are trying to win basketball games and develop young players.
It makes no sense to me.
Could have cleared roughly the same amount of space under the tax by stretching Culver or Juancho and replacing them with a warm body, without sending out the only real veteran leadership the team had left.

Ricky's leadership. high BBIQ, and knowledge of the game are intangibles this team is going to sorely miss in the coming season, and would have been invaluable far beyond the crap return in this trade not only to Ant but to Bolmaro if he comes over this summer, as is the rumor. In fact I thought it was the primary reason he was brought here. What changed? Did it hurt the feelings of the chronicly injured superbff to get pushed out of his PG spot into a role he was better suited for because we found someone who could defend better than a wet paper towel and actually run a team? I give Ricky a lot of credit for keeping Ant on track when the rest of the team around him was going completely off the rails.

Prince is a very limited replacement level backup SF many of you are trying to miscast as a smallball pf. He does not have the frame or toughness as a crowder or carroll, but he is big enough to defend some of the big 3's. But we are supposed to have Bolmaro for that now.
If Rosas can find a sucker for him and acutally pick up an asset I will be surprised.
But this was a dumb time to make the trade as it doesn't involve any '21 picks, and we won't be able to aggregate Prince's salary in any salary matching for quite a while once its finalized. Would have been smarter to wait until free agency when sign and trades are in play.
Unless groundwork has been laid and some team preferred Prince's salary to Rubio in a trade, chances of which are pretty remote at this point. With Morey asking the Warriors for Wiseman plus 4 1st round picks, I think the chances of SImmons coming here are nearing zero.

100% agree. At this point, I think Rosas is just throwing anything at the wall and hoping something sticks. Dude is supposed to be a freaking genius who was tutored by some of the best. So far he's shown he's nothing but a blind fool, obsessed with becoming James Harden's Rocket without James Harden. This team needs defense and leadership. Instead, we get more shooting, less defense, and less stability all around. Hopefully ARod replaces him soon, unlike Glenn Taylor who waits way too long to fire someone.

[Note30]

Wow. There better be another move planned or this was a **** trade.

Also Edwards had one request. Don't trade Ricky, and we trade him for a bucket of scraps. Thanks Rosas

[Danimals]

Garbage trade just to save money. This makes the team worse. Prince is no better than any of the other forwards. And now Dlo will have the ball in his hands more, which is a major on court downgrade.

[Danimals]

This is an awful trade if you are trying to win basketball games and develop young players.
It makes no sense to me.
Could have cleared roughly the same amount of space under the tax by stretching Culver or Juancho and replacing them with a warm body, without sending out the only real veteran leadership the team had left.

Ricky's leadership. high BBIQ, and knowledge of the game are intangibles this team is going to sorely miss in the coming season, and would have been invaluable far beyond the crap return in this trade not only to Ant but to Bolmaro if he comes over this summer, as is the rumor. In fact I thought it was the primary reason he was brought here. What changed? Did it hurt the feelings of the chronicly injured superbff to get pushed out of his PG spot into a role he was better suited for because we found someone who could defend better than a wet paper towel and actually run a team? I give Ricky a lot of credit for keeping Ant on track when the rest of the team around him was going completely off the rails.

Prince is a very limited replacement level backup SF many of you are trying to miscast as a smallball pf. He does not have the frame or toughness as a crowder or carroll, but he is big enough to defend some of the big 3's. But we are supposed to have Bolmaro for that now.
If Rosas can find a sucker for him and acutally pick up an asset I will be surprised.
But this was a dumb time to make the trade as it doesn't involve any '21 picks, and we won't be able to aggregate Prince's salary in any salary matching for quite a while once its finalized. Would have been smarter to wait until free agency when sign and trades are in play.
Unless groundwork has been laid and some team preferred Prince's salary to Rubio in a trade, chances of which are pretty remote at this point. With Morey asking the Warriors for Wiseman plus 4 1st round picks, I think the chances of SImmons coming here are nearing zero.

100% agree. At this point, I think Rosas is just throwing anything at the wall and hoping something sticks. Dude is supposed to be a freaking genius who was tutored by some of the best. So far he's shown he's nothing but a blind fool, obsessed with becoming James Harden's Rocket without James Harden. This team needs defense and leadership. Instead, we get more shooting, less defense, and less stability all around. Hopefully ARod replaces him soon, unlike Glenn Taylor who waits way too long to fire someone.

Absolutely this!

[KGdaBom]

Cavs desperately needed a backup PG and just some competent backup guards in general. Prince was a nice enough player for us for a few weeks before our season went into the trash. but we aren't going to contend anytime soon and we have other guys that can do what he can. I don't like how close this potentially puts us to the tax line. Obviously it depends on Allen's new contract and whether we do anything with our backup center Hartenstein.

I just wish we had got Nance rather than Prince.

[Neeva]

Cavs desperately needed a backup PG and just some competent backup guards in general. Prince was a nice enough player for us for a few weeks before our season went into the trash. but we aren't going to contend anytime soon and we have other guys that can do what he can. I don't like how close this potentially puts us to the tax line. Obviously it depends on Allen's new contract and whether we do anything with our backup center Hartenstein.

I just wish we had got Nance rather than Prince.

Agreed.

[KGdaBom]

A few years ago Prince looked like a young star in the making. Last couple years he fell off the map.

[IceManBK1]

looks like nth else happening tonight...trades can still go down in the future. nance jr, gallinari. can also sign a low budget pf like bobby portis or lauri markannen.

[TaylorTag]

What if the 76ers identified Prince as an asset they could want (with a ton more) in a Simmons trade?

[Howard Cosell]

What if the 76ers identified Prince as an asset they could want (with a ton more) in a Simmons trade?

Cleveland would have been included in 3-4 team trade if that was the case.

Prince is staying a wolf. If you are still on the Simmons bandwagon you got to hope Rosas believed Prince asset was needed on the roster before you trade McDaniels + Russell + FRPS for Simmons & point guard.

Simmons will probably end up as a Raptor which I didn’t think was possible a few weeks ago.

[shrink]

Cavs desperately needed a backup PG and just some competent backup guards in general. Prince was a nice enough player for us for a few weeks before our season went into the trash. but we aren't going to contend anytime soon and we have other guys that can do what he can. I don't like how close this potentially puts us to the tax line. Obviously it depends on Allen's new contract and whether we do anything with our backup center Hartenstein.

I just wish we had got Nance rather than Prince.

I forgot about this. I definitely agree - we would rather have had Nance. Those rumors linking us there might have been MIN evaluating their players and trying to get Nance.

Still, remember that rumor that CLE may want to get off of Nance and Osman .. for financial relief. Well, the Cavs just added $4 mil in salary. Maybe that will make Nance more available?

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[Harper4Ferry?]

Nance won’t get salary dumped at this point. He’s actually really good when he’s healthy.

[shrink]

I am legit confused to see how lopsided the 'Who won the trade' poll on GB is for this trade..almost no one there thinks this is a good trade for Wolves lol.

The General Board does not see subtleties. Rubio is more famous than Prince, and rocking in the Olympics right now. But MIN gets a little for the player, the savings, the 2nd, the positional improvement, etc.

The Trade Board likes it for MIN, but are sad for Rubio. I’m with them. I can’t be happy about it because I like Rubio and I credit him with a lot of offcourt team improvements. But rationally, I can understand how this deal could help MIN.

Trade Board also has a poll, and early results strongly favor MIN winning this trade FWIW.

I thought you’d like a look. Check 24 hours from now too, when more people have thought it over

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2108552

[TaylorTag]

The Wolves looked good when they played “big.”

When McDaniels played next to Vanderbilt and Juancho, the Wolves always seemed to thrive. We had so much size and didn’t have to sacrifice too much on the offensive end.

Adding Prince just gives us another 3/4 that can switch on D and stretch the offensive end.

Know Vanderbilt isn’t too much of an offensive threat, but bringing him back and having our forwards be McDaniels, Prince, Hernongomez, Vanderbilt and Okogie would give us a lot of depth and some versatility

[Norseman79]

The Wolves looked good when they played “big.”

When McDaniels played next to Vanderbilt and Juancho, the Wolves always seemed to thrive. We had so much size and didn’t have to sacrifice too much on the offensive end.

Adding Prince just gives us another 3/4 that can switch on D and stretch the offensive end.

Know Vanderbilt isn’t too much of an offensive threat, but bringing him back and having our forwards be McDaniels, Prince, Hernongomez, Vanderbilt and Okogie would give us a lot of depth and some versatility

SF - McDaniels, Prince
PF - Vanderbilt, Hernangomez

You are trying to make that sound like a positive?? Lots of offseason left, but you can't make chicken salad outta chicken ****

[TaylorTag]

SF- McDaniels, Hernangomez
PF - Prince, Vanderbilt

First of all, if you watched Juancho last year, you saw he was better as a SF next to Vanderbilt or McDaniels. But look, I’m not saying it’s pretty. I just think Rosas has a type, and having 4 SF/PFs who all offer something kind of unique is a luxury, especially in a long season when injuries happen.

The Wolves should have close to 80- points a game from Russell, Ant and Towns (that doesn’t even mention Beasley). At this point we just need guys who can fill a role and play it well.. McDaniels and Vanderbilt have proven they can fit a role (depends on what Vanderbilt can get this off-season). Okogie offers something to in this conversation. Hernangomez is more of an unknown. I will double down and say he looked good when he was next to Vando and McDaniels. He plays SF naturally with his cuts and willingness to shoot deep 3s. He also is outsized when he is asked to guard opposing PFs—he’s tall but not strong to handle that.

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[TheProdigy]

So which free agent power forward are we going to sign with the MLE?