Trade Talk (Part Nine) (READ FIRST POST)

BlacJacMac · Post #81 » by **BlacJacMac** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:15 pm

winforlose wrote:Given our need for a PF what do people think about targeting Sabonis?

Would love him, but isn’t he the guy they’re choosing to build around?

I don’t think we have anything we’d be willing to trade that they’d have any interest in.

SO_MONEY · Post #82 » by **SO_MONEY** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:23 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
winforlose wrote:Given our need for a PF what do people think about targeting Sabonis?

Would love him, but isn’t he the guy they’re choosing to build around?

I don’t think we have anything we’d be willing to trade that they’d have any interest in.

Also, if he and Turner give up the most points in the paint, what would he and Kat do?

IceManBK1 · Post #83 » by **IceManBK1** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:21 pm

wonder if Rosas even made an offer for Myles Turner or Siakam. we probly don't need a 3rd team for those guys. i like simmons..but Rosas don't have to be fixated on just one guy. We need an upgrade at PF. But don't need the best out there. Lauri would've made us a dangerous offensive team. I think even a guy like marvin bagley III can be a big help.

Post #84 » by **Klomp** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:34 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:wonder if Rosas even made an offer for Myles Turner or Siakam. we probly don't need a 3rd team for those guys. i like simmons..but Rosas don't have to be fixated on just one guy. We need an upgrade at PF. But don't need the best out there. Lauri would've made us a dangerous offensive team. I think even a guy like marvin bagley III can be a big help.

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IceManBK1 · Post #85 » by **IceManBK1** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:36 pm

Klomp wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:wonder if Rosas even made an offer for Myles Turner or Siakam. we probly don't need a 3rd team for those guys. i like simmons..but Rosas don't have to be fixated on just one guy. We need an upgrade at PF. But don't need the best out there. Lauri would've made us a dangerous offensive team. I think even a guy like marvin bagley III can be a big help.

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Beasley+Prince would help them win now..

Post #86 » by **Klomp** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:37 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:wonder if Rosas even made an offer for Myles Turner or Siakam. we probly don't need a 3rd team for those guys. i like simmons..but Rosas don't have to be fixated on just one guy. We need an upgrade at PF. But don't need the best out there. Lauri would've made us a dangerous offensive team. I think even a guy like marvin bagley III can be a big help.

I wouldn't say he's been fixated on one guy, I'd argue the opposite. It's just he understands there is a price to pay for these guys, both in team compensation plus for Markkanen player compensation. There just hasn't been a price to pay that Rosas has felt is worth it. And to this point, it hasn't been worth it in a Sixers offer yet either.

IceManBK1 · Post #87 » by **IceManBK1** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:53 pm

Beasley for Marvin Bagley iii? They earn around the same salary. I'd throw in a 2nd.

Post #88 » by **Klomp** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:57 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Beasley for Marvin Bagley iii? They earn around the same salary. I'd throw in a 2nd.

That's hideous on top of hideous

Merc_Porto · Post #89 » by **Merc_Porto** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:58 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Beasley for Marvin Bagley iii? They earn around the same salary. I'd throw in a 2nd.

I don't know about that.
Sacramento is full of guards...

But I would like to take a chance on Bagley

SO_MONEY · Post #90 » by **SO_MONEY** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:07 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Beasley for Marvin Bagley iii? They earn around the same salary. I'd throw in a 2nd.

Yikes!

IceManBK1 · Post #91 » by **IceManBK1** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:12 pm

Merc_Porto wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:Beasley for Marvin Bagley iii? They earn around the same salary. I'd throw in a 2nd.

I don't know about that.
Sacramento is full of guards...

But I would like to take a chance on Bagley

They have a ton of pfs too... Maybe prince+2nd can get it done. They have ton of guards. Need a SF.

Merc_Porto · Post #92 » by **Merc_Porto** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:15 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:
Merc_Porto wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:Beasley for Marvin Bagley iii? They earn around the same salary. I'd throw in a 2nd.

I don't know about that.
Sacramento is full of guards...

But I would like to take a chance on Bagley

They have a ton of pfs too... Maybe prince+2nd can get it done. They have ton of guards. Need a SF.

I don't think so... At least not a bunch of good ones

SO_MONEY · Post #93 » by **SO_MONEY** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:21 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:
Merc_Porto wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:Beasley for Marvin Bagley iii? They earn around the same salary. I'd throw in a 2nd.

I don't know about that.
Sacramento is full of guards...

But I would like to take a chance on Bagley

They have a ton of pfs too... Maybe prince+2nd can get it done. They have ton of guards. Need a SF.

Why?

I mean we probably want Prince given the PHI situation and/or he provides more immediate on court results. And why add a 2nd to him? Even if we traded for him I don't know we would re-sign him.

Bagley is a guy you give up nothing for or get incentive for taking, given we traded both Culver and Juancho, that leaves Okogie and Layman. Would you trade Okogie and Layman for Bagley III and a 2nd to eat the difference (about $3mil)? It is iffy.

jpatrick · Post #94 » by **jpatrick** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:22 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:
Klomp wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:wonder if Rosas even made an offer for Myles Turner or Siakam. we probly don't need a 3rd team for those guys. i like simmons..but Rosas don't have to be fixated on just one guy. We need an upgrade at PF. But don't need the best out there. Lauri would've made us a dangerous offensive team. I think even a guy like marvin bagley III can be a big help.

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Beasley+Prince would help them win now..

How? On the wings they currently have Levert, Duarte, Warren, Holiday, and Craig. Duarte and Beasley are very similar players and they just took Duarte in the lottery. Keeping Turner will help them more than adding what would be a bench shooter for them.

IceManBK1 · Post #95 » by **IceManBK1** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:28 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:
Merc_Porto wrote:
I don't know about that.
Sacramento is full of guards...

But I would like to take a chance on Bagley

They have a ton of pfs too... Maybe prince+2nd can get it done. They have ton of guards. Need a SF.

Why?

I mean we probably want Prince given the PHI situation and/or he provides more immediate on court results. And why add a 2nd to him? Even if we traded for him I don't know we would re-sign him.

Bagley is a guy you give up nothing for or get incentive for taking, given we traded both Culver and Juancho, that leaves Okogie and Layman. Would you trade Okogie and Layman for Bagley III and a 2nd to eat the difference (about $3mil)? It is iffy.

Okogie and Layman are trash. Bagley is worth more than that.

SO_MONEY · Post #96 » by **SO_MONEY** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:30 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:
They have a ton of pfs too... Maybe prince+2nd can get it done. They have ton of guards. Need a SF.

Why?

I mean we probably want Prince given the PHI situation and/or he provides more immediate on court results. And why add a 2nd to him? Even if we traded for him I don't know we would re-sign him.

Bagley is a guy you give up nothing for or get incentive for taking, given we traded both Culver and Juancho, that leaves Okogie and Layman. Would you trade Okogie and Layman for Bagley III and a 2nd to eat the difference (about $3mil)? It is iffy.

Okogie and Layman are trash. Bagley is worth more than that.

If that is the case someone else can trade for him and pay him $11mil...plus decide what to do about his FA. No thanks.

IceManBK1 · Post #97 » by **IceManBK1** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:30 pm

jpatrick wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:
Klomp wrote:

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Beasley+Prince would help them win now..

How? On the wings they currently have Levert, Duarte, Warren, Holiday, and Craig. Duarte and Beasley are very similar players and they just took Duarte in the lottery. Keeping Turner will help them more than adding what would be a bench shooter for them.

Beasley can be a 6th man for them.. And prince is a starting sf on some teams.

BlacJacMac · Post #98 » by **BlacJacMac** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:20 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Beasley for Marvin Bagley iii? They earn around the same salary. I'd throw in a 2nd.

Only if we have inside info Beasley is heading back to jail…

Godaddycurse · Post #99 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:14 am

IceManBK1 wrote:
jpatrick wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:
Beasley+Prince would help them win now..

How? On the wings they currently have Levert, Duarte, Warren, Holiday, and Craig. Duarte and Beasley are very similar players and they just took Duarte in the lottery. Keeping Turner will help them more than adding what would be a bench shooter for them.

Beasley can be a 6th man for them.. And prince is a starting sf on some teams.

hopefully not by choice. Man was terrible last year. Turner is worth alot more to Indy than Beasley. Beasley + McDaniels would be a closer offer. and they will probably still say no. they have way too much depth as is

SO_MONEY · Post #100 » by **SO_MONEY** » Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:26 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:
jpatrick wrote:
How? On the wings they currently have Levert, Duarte, Warren, Holiday, and Craig. Duarte and Beasley are very similar players and they just took Duarte in the lottery. Keeping Turner will help them more than adding what would be a bench shooter for them.

Beasley can be a 6th man for them.. And prince is a starting sf on some teams.

hopefully not by choice. Man was terrible last year. Turner is worth alot more to Indy than Beasley. Beasley + McDaniels would be a closer offer. and they will probably still say no. they have way too much depth as is

Turner and Sabonis give up a ton of points in the paint, Turner doesn't have that much value, because the thing he is good at...he isn't actually good at it. And isn't a difference maker in this regard.