Training camp thread 22/23

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For one example, I bet we'll see lineups that go Russell/Edwards/McDaniels/Prince/Gobert. You may be worried about Prince's defense at the 4 but that's why you play him with others who are good defenders to cover up those weaknesses.

Anderson probably gets those minutes, first, he has proven to be a very good PF. I see Prince playing the 3 to spell McDaniels in the most likely of outcomes.

Towns will likely be the one paired more with Anderson in the one-big lineups.

I don't think it matters who the big is. Anderson comes in for the first big taking a rest. Perhaps into the second bigs exit, might be lead ball handler at times to allow for backcourt and wing options as it pertains to substitutions.

[winforlose]

Anderson probably gets those minutes, first, he has proven to be a very good PF. I see Prince playing the 3 to spell McDaniels in the most likely of outcomes.

Towns will likely be the one paired more with Anderson in the one-big lineups.

I don't think it matters who the big is. Anderson comes in for the first big taking a rest. Perhaps into the second bigs exit, might be lead ball handler at times to allow for backcourt and wing options as it pertains to substitutions.

It matters if the plan is for Naz to get run at PF. In that case Naz and Rudy will be a pair and KAT and KA will be a pair. I would add Prince and Ant to the KAT unit probably with JMAC as PG. Other rotation would be Dlo, Nowell, MCD, Naz and Rudy. A true 2A and 2B rotation with the starters opening and closing each half.

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Towns will likely be the one paired more with Anderson in the one-big lineups.

I don't think it matters who the big is. Anderson comes in for the first big taking a rest. Perhaps into the second bigs exit, might be lead ball handler at times to allow for backcourt and wing options as it pertains to substitutions.

It matters if the plan is for Naz to get run at PF. In that case Naz and Rudy will be a pair and KAT and KA will be a pair. I would add Prince and Ant to the KAT unit probably with JMAC as PG. Other rotation would be Dlo, Nowell, MCD, Naz and Rudy. A true 2A and 2B rotation with the starters opening and closing each half.

I don't think Naz gets much run at the 4 he probably gives a rest to the 1st... or more likely 2nd big coming out and plays the 5 for two fairly brief stretches best case under normal circumstances. Honestly, he might just struggle to get minutes in some games because of matchups.

The goal in rotations is to keep two of KAT, Russell, ANT and Gobert on the court at all times (that is the rumor anyways). They could run so many lineups out there and some of the looks depend on if the 6th man is a frontcourt or backcourt player.

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I don't think it matters who the big is. Anderson comes in for the first big taking a rest. Perhaps into the second bigs exit, might be lead ball handler at times to allow for backcourt and wing options as it pertains to substitutions.

It matters if the plan is for Naz to get run at PF. In that case Naz and Rudy will be a pair and KAT and KA will be a pair. I would add Prince and Ant to the KAT unit probably with JMAC as PG. Other rotation would be Dlo, Nowell, MCD, Naz and Rudy. A true 2A and 2B rotation with the starters opening and closing each half.

I don't think Naz gets much run at the 4 he probably gives a rest to the 1st... or more likely 2nd big coming out and plays the 5 for two fairly brief stretches best case under normal circumstances. Honestly, he might just struggle to get minutes in some games because of matchups.

The goal in rotations is to keep two of KAT, Russell, ANT and Gobert on the court at all times (that is the rumor anyways). They could run so many lineups out there and some of the looks depend on if the 6th man is a frontcourt or backcourt player.

You might be right. But, Naz floor spaces for Rudy in a way KA might not.

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It matters if the plan is for Naz to get run at PF. In that case Naz and Rudy will be a pair and KAT and KA will be a pair. I would add Prince and Ant to the KAT unit probably with JMAC as PG. Other rotation would be Dlo, Nowell, MCD, Naz and Rudy. A true 2A and 2B rotation with the starters opening and closing each half.

I don't think Naz gets much run at the 4 he probably gives a rest to the 1st... or more likely 2nd big coming out and plays the 5 for two fairly brief stretches best case under normal circumstances. Honestly, he might just struggle to get minutes in some games because of matchups.

The goal in rotations is to keep two of KAT, Russell, ANT and Gobert on the court at all times (that is the rumor anyways). They could run so many lineups out there and some of the looks depend on if the 6th man is a frontcourt or backcourt player.

You might be right. But, Naz floor spaces for Rudy in a way KA might not.

Maybe, maybe not, Anderson has improved his shooting, regardless you can pack shooters in the backcourt or on the wing and with KA you might not even need a PG.

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I think Minott will spend a lot of time learning from Jaden McDaniels and Taurean Prince. Wendell Moore will spend his time learning from Kyle Anderson, Austin Rivers and D'Angelo Russell, maybe even PJ Dozier. These are guys with at least somewhat similar games and mindsets.

[Dewey]

Uneventful so far as one would expect.

winning basketball is so much more than positions and systems. Finch has to focus on depth to be sustainable and that comes down to Matchups, IQ, and Gamers …

We’re gonna see some kid these unproven players try to be bigger than the game and some will play within the game and likely prevail.

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I think Minott will spend a lot of time learning from Jaden McDaniels and Taurean Prince. Wendell Moore will spend his time learning from Kyle Anderson, Austin Rivers and D'Angelo Russell, maybe even PJ Dozier. These are guys with at least somewhat similar games and mindsets.

Minott should be MCD and Rudy. Rudy could probably write multiple books on defensive techniques. Moore I could see a mix of KA, Dlo, and Prince. Especially if we want Moore to be a guard.

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Dane Moore thinks that only one of Naz Reid or Nathan Knight will make the team, and I agree. That's what I've been saying for a few weeks as well. I don't know which way they will go. But I do think Naz is maybe our best current chance for pick replenishment. Knight won't have any trade market.

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Dane Moore thinks that only one of Naz Reid or Nathan Knight will make the team, and I agree. That's what I've been saying for a few weeks as well. I don't know which way they will go. But I do think Naz is maybe our best current chance for pick replenishment. Knight won't have any trade market.

Knight wouldn’t be replaced by a guard. He would be replaced by a big. Maybe Paschall, or Garza, or an outside big. Rivers would be replaced by PJ. He mentions them because they are not fully guaranteed. Unless of course I missed something on Twitter or a new pod. He also thought as of Friday that Naz and Nowell were likely to not be cut.

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It’s a shame KAT is out for the first half of camp. Everyone talks about the great PNR game between Dlo and Rudy. But I think we might also see some KAT and Rudy PNR or PNP. This season is gonna be so much fun

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He is 20, but his handle isn't up to snuff for a SF, he needs to work on that, but I see him as a 4 long-term so it may not matter.

Even if it is not, I would add the word YET. I don’t think it is that far behind MCD. Again watch him handle in Summer League.

I watched him, his handle is a clear weakness. He wasn't even close to MCD and that is before his improvement. Give him time we will see if he develops.

I watched him too. Very athletic and lot of potential. I see argument for him at SF being based on size, not the fit for his skills. We had arguments for McD at PF and Vando at SF which is the same argument for size instead of skills. I think he’s got talent to develop the handles and that should be focus in Iowa.

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Even if it is not, I would add the word YET. I don’t think it is that far behind MCD. Again watch him handle in Summer League.

I watched him, his handle is a clear weakness. He wasn't even close to MCD and that is before his improvement. Give him time we will see if he develops.

I watched him too. Very athletic and lot of potential. I see argument for him at SF being based on size, not the fit for his skills. We had arguments for McD at PF and Vando at SF which is the same argument for size instead of skills. I think he’s got talent to develop the handles and that should be focus in Iowa.

Handle aside what else is he missing? His 3 point shooting is looking good, (especially from the corners,) and he was excellent at the rim in college. What am I missing?

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I watched him, his handle is a clear weakness. He wasn't even close to MCD and that is before his improvement. Give him time we will see if he develops.

I watched him too. Very athletic and lot of potential. I see argument for him at SF being based on size, not the fit for his skills. We had arguments for McD at PF and Vando at SF which is the same argument for size instead of skills. I think he’s got talent to develop the handles and that should be focus in Iowa.

Handle aside what else is he missing? His 3 point shooting is looking good, (especially from the corners,) and he was excellent at the rim in college. What am I missing?

His shooting is on a small sample size and he needs to mature and let the game come to him. He is one of those hyper, out of control players right now, that have trouble finishing, sometimes development happens, sometimes they remain Corey Brewer. Only time will tell.

[Baseline81]

From reddit on the Krawczynski article on McDaniels:

- In June, talks with the Jazz for Gobert had stalled. The Wolves were looking at other players. Why? Because the Jazz insisted on Jaden McDaniels

- Connelly had increased the draft capital specifically to keep McDaniels who he considered untouchable

- The Wolves get A LOT of calls from GM's asking about McDaniels

- Realising how much he was valued was a lot for McDaniels to take in - it was crazy to him, but he recognized it was because of the hard work and grind he had put in since being drafted

- McDaniels has worked with development coach Joe Boylan all summer on developing significantly and "making it **** undeniable who you are"

- In his exit interview with Finch, Boylan and Sachin Gupta, McDaniels was shown analysis and statistics of where he needed to improve - scoring in transition and not rushing his shots. As well as his percentages for scoring in heaps of scenarios

- McDaniels decided not to go home to Seattle but instead spend the summer with Naz Reid and Nathan Knight training with the staff in Minnesota

- To give an idea of who the Wolves think McDaniels can become - they showed him footage of Kawhi and Luka Doncic for him to study

- McDaniels has worked with Boylan to change the arc of his jump shot, to make it consistent and to improve the amount of makes - He had been shooting at a 45° arc but with inconsistent arc. It is now consistent at 47°

- McDaniels has been working with P3 - an analytics driven training center to work on building strength and muscle on his body with trainer Jon Flake

- Flake has worked with over a dozen NBA players and says McDaniels stands out for his physical capabilities with crazy length and explosive capabilities (seriously this guy RAVES about Jaden)

- McDaniels has added 10lbs of muscle this year. But also believes he has gotten taller "either 6'10 or 6'11"

- Jamal Crawford sees glimmers of Kevin Durant in McDaniels. He was not shocked by his 52 point outing in the pro-am

- “We’re going for first team All-Defense this year,” McDaniels said, “but I’m going to make one of them.”

- Boylan is not being coy on his desires for McDaniels. He wants him to be a superstar

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Dane Moore thinks that only one of Naz Reid or Nathan Knight will make the team, and I agree. That's what I've been saying for a few weeks as well. I don't know which way they will go. But I do think Naz is maybe our best current chance for pick replenishment. Knight won't have any trade market.

Knight wouldn’t be replaced by a guard. He would be replaced by a big. Maybe Paschall, or Garza, or an outside big.

I doubt it.

They gave Knight a partial guarantee for a reason. I think the only reason you move on from him is to shift how you want the back end of the roster to look. If they want two bigs, they'll just keep the status quo with Reid and Knight. Moving on from one of them tells me they want to build out the depth in a different manner.