The Official Mike Conley Thread

Post #81 » by **Klomp** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:37 pm

I still wouldn't rule out NAW as a succession plan at PG.

The hard part is finding someone who is good enough defensively but also is someone who can shoot it. I know he's cooled off some, but NAW has a decent stroke.

urinesane · Post #82 » by **urinesane** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:33 pm

Klomp wrote:I still wouldn't rule out NAW as a succession plan at PG.

The hard part is finding someone who is good enough defensively but also is someone who can shoot it. I know he's cooled off some, but NAW has a decent stroke.

I like NAW, but I think he is too streaky shooting currently to fill that role. When his shot is falling I see him as a 3&D guy off the bench, Tyus seems like he is a much better creator and has similar tools to Conley on offense (which would mesh well with Gobert).

TimberKat · Post #83 » by **TimberKat** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:37 am

urinesane wrote:
Klomp wrote:I still wouldn't rule out NAW as a succession plan at PG.

The hard part is finding someone who is good enough defensively but also is someone who can shoot it. I know he's cooled off some, but NAW has a decent stroke.

I like NAW, but I think he is too streaky shooting currently to fill that role. When his shot is falling I see him as a 3&D guy off the bench, Tyus seems like he is a much better creator and has similar tools to Conley on offense (which would mesh well with Gobert).

I can't see NAW as PG yet. Although love to keep him for 3+D to defend 1 to 3 guys

Dalvin · Post #84 » by **Dalvin** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:10 am

Best PG we've had since Rubio.
I was thinking on who's a younger version of Mike Conley, then it hit me. Darius Garland is a comparable player.
Man, our team would've been set for years if only Rosas overpaid a bit to swap picks with Cleveland so we could get Garland over Culver. Our backourt would've been sky high potential of Garland and Ant

urinesane · Post #85 » by **urinesane** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:22 pm

Dalvin wrote:Best PG we've had since Rubio.
I was thinking on who's a younger version of Mike Conley, then it hit me. Darius Garland is a comparable player.
Man, our team would've been set for years if only Rosas overpaid a bit to swap picks with Cleveland so we could get Garland over Culver. Our backourt would've been sky high potential of Garland and Ant

Revisionist history doesn't work.

If we had Garland over Culver, we win more games and don't get Ant.

Would you rather have Garland or Ant?

BlacJacMac · Post #86 » by **BlacJacMac** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:34 pm

urinesane wrote:
Dalvin wrote:Best PG we've had since Rubio.
I was thinking on who's a younger version of Mike Conley, then it hit me. Darius Garland is a comparable player.
Man, our team would've been set for years if only Rosas overpaid a bit to swap picks with Cleveland so we could get Garland over Culver. Our backourt would've been sky high potential of Garland and Ant

Revisionist history doesn't work.

If we had Garland over Culver, we win more games and don't get Ant.

Would you rather have Garland or Ant?

Maybe?

Garland was not very good as a rookie (rookie PGs rarely are). Do we win more games with Rookie Garland and Wiggins or with D'Lo and Culver?

urinesane · Post #87 » by **urinesane** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:20 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
urinesane wrote:
Dalvin wrote:Best PG we've had since Rubio.
I was thinking on who's a younger version of Mike Conley, then it hit me. Darius Garland is a comparable player.
Man, our team would've been set for years if only Rosas overpaid a bit to swap picks with Cleveland so we could get Garland over Culver. Our backourt would've been sky high potential of Garland and Ant

Revisionist history doesn't work.

If we had Garland over Culver, we win more games and don't get Ant.

Would you rather have Garland or Ant?

Maybe?

Garland was not very good as a rookie (rookie PGs rarely are). Do we win more games with Rookie Garland and Wiggins or with D'Lo and Culver?

Find a time machine and let me know, otherwise it's a pretty pointless discussion.

Post #88 » by **Klomp** » Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:43 pm

Worm Guts wrote:Conley is 35, 36 before next season. At that age, I think you have plan for the future.

Has Phoenix been planning for the future? Chris Paul is 2 years older than Conley.

urinesane · Post #89 » by **urinesane** » Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:35 pm

urinesane wrote:
Klomp wrote:I still wouldn't rule out NAW as a succession plan at PG.

The hard part is finding someone who is good enough defensively but also is someone who can shoot it. I know he's cooled off some, but NAW has a decent stroke.

I like NAW, but I think he is too streaky shooting currently to fill that role. When his shot is falling I see him as a 3&D guy off the bench, Tyus seems like he is a much better creator and has similar tools to Conley on offense (which would mesh well with Gobert).

I still don't know if he's a solid backup PG option, but he showed that other gear in the playoffs. He stepped up to the occasion and was a pretty big positive for the Wolves in an incredibly difficult position.

Love having guys like Conley, Ant, Jaden, Anderson, and NAW that step it up in big situations. KAT needs to go back to proving himself through action rather than trying to sound insightful (or overly confident). Stop talking about what you've done and who you are... nobody cares unless you back it up with your play.

I like KAT btw, but he needs to care less about perceptions and just focus on dominating.

urinesane · Post #90 » by **urinesane** » Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:38 pm

Klomp wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Conley is 35, 36 before next season. At that age, I think you have plan for the future.

Has Phoenix been planning for the future? Chris Paul is 2 years older than Conley.

Most fans of bad basketball teams are focused on the future to avoid thinking about the present. I think it's hard for them to shift gears and try to appreciate what they have in front of them, especially when it's good.

Love Conley. I hope he plays as long as Vince Carter and retires with MN.

Post #91 » by **Worm Guts** » Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:46 pm

Klomp wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Conley is 35, 36 before next season. At that age, I think you have plan for the future.

Has Phoenix been planning for the future? Chris Paul is 2 years older than Conley.

This post is from like a month ago and the main purpose was to correct the fact that you said he was 31.

And yes, when a professional athlete is 35+, there is a reality they could fall off any following season.

urinesane · Post #92 » by **urinesane** » Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:49 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:Conley is 35, 36 before next season. At that age, I think you have plan for the future.

Has Phoenix been planning for the future? Chris Paul is 2 years older than Conley.

This post is from like a month ago and the main purpose was to correct the fact that you said he was 31.

And yes, when a professional athlete is 35+, there is a reality they could fall off any following season.

This is true, but I think it just means that they shouldn't give him a massive contract. If he keeps playing like he's been playing it's a luxury the Wolves have... never really had from what I can remember.

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #93 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Fri Apr 28, 2023 12:51 pm

For me Mike has probably 2 or 3 years left in the tank. He is a great pro taking care of his body and with great work ethic. But we need a good back-up at least, NAW is not consistent enough. He play well 2 or 3 games but he was doing the same things in UTAH, 2 good, 3 bad.... not sure he can improve.

shrink · Post #94 » by **shrink** » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:14 pm

Has anyone else noticed how happy Conley seems to get when his teammates succeed?

With a genuine smile, I really like this aspect of him. It’s also one of the reasons I like Luka Garza and Ant too - they embrace their teammates’ success.

urinesane · Post #95 » by **urinesane** » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:04 pm

shrink wrote:Has anyone else noticed how happy Conley seems to get when his teammates succeed?

With a genuine smile, I really like this aspect of him. It’s also one of the reasons I like Luka Garza and Ant too - they embrace their teammates’ success.

The best part of that Ant block, turning it over on the other end, then Conley poking it free to him for the And 1 was Mike's celebration after.

Watch on YouTube

Post #96 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jul 7, 2023 9:25 pm

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Post #97 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jul 7, 2023 9:54 pm

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Post #98 » by **Klomp** » Tue Aug 1, 2023 4:13 am

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shrink · Post #99 » by **shrink** » Tue Aug 1, 2023 3:38 pm

The article neglected to mention that in Conley’s long career, he has never picked up a technical foul!

That amazes me. These days, most people just kind of accept making technical fouls as part of the game, and any player with an ounce of competitiveness is going to get a few. I disagree. Technical fouls weren’t created to stop emotions in the game, but to penalize players that express them in ways that disrespect the game, the officials or other players.

Anthony Edwards had 15 Technical Fouls last season, which was fifth in the league. He’s very impressionable, and perhaps the many techs Towns and Beverley got the year before led him to believe that was acceptable. Hopefully Conley will be a role model for Ant on and off the court.

[Incidentally, I was surprised that Towns wasn’t a perennial league leader in techs, but truthfully, he only had that one bad season. It’s worth a look through the the years to see how the Wolves behaved, in relation to the league and players like Draymond and Trae Young.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/fouls-technical?rate=season-totals&season_id=220]

Post #100 » by **Klomp** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:35 pm

Fun idea that cap nerds like shrink might enjoy thinking about.

Could we somehow use the "over 38 rule" to our benefit in signing Conley next offseason?