WCF Discussion

[ChipotleWest]

I don't even know if he meant they were better than us the final 20 games or better than they had been in the first 62. Ugly could you clarify?

Technically we were better than than wolves in defensive rating in the final 20. Now if you make me pick who has the better defense, I'll give the slight edge to the wolves anyway, although I think it's close to a wash. I think offensively though the Mavericks have a higher ceiling with Luka and Kyrie which tips the series for me in their favor.

I won't be shocked if the wolves win. They're a good team although I have the Mavs winning. But I think wolves fans are grossly underestimating the Mavericks here. The Mavericks are much better than the Sun's were, and I think are better when the nuggets were.

Delusions of grandeur for a 5th seed team. If the Mavs had better numbers than the Wolves minus KAT during a quarter of the season I'm happy for them. Denver and Minnesota were the 2nd and 3rd seeded teams because they are both better than the Mavs. I give the Mavs props for pulling out the win against OKC, but they are small and have zero playoff experience. OKC could have easily won that series, but they came up one basket short in game 6.

Mavs were a 5th seed because the start of the season they weren't very good, not only would they not be here they might have missed the playoffs if they had their starting season roster. At the trade deadline they replaced 2 of their 5 starters with better starters, not only that Kyrie missed 24 games while they had the bad team before the trade deadline, so they just weren't good enough. No other team had an upgrade like that (to my knowledge) at the trade deadline. If the Mavs had PJ and Gaff at the beginning of the season they would have been the #1 seed. You can just do the math W/L since trade deadline over a full season is 60 wins.

You can say but they weren't and that math might not happen blah blah fine, but I wouldn't consider the Mavs a typical 5th seed that you're just going to streamroll. Or go ahead if you insist.

[winforlose]

Semi-related, we gotta collectivize and stop being so defensive on the General Board. Not a one or two poster thing at all, even I am guilty of getting super triggered by the Rudy Gobert hate after game five (still drives me crazy that he gets hate, instead of people realizing that we saw a generational performance from a multi-time MVP).

This fanbase is on a trajectory to get absolutely clowned on if we lose.

True. But I am more worried about a zombie apocalypse than the Mavs getting to the NBA finals.

Zombie apocalypse it is I guess, Conley might not even play.

MINNEAPOLIS — As the Dallas Mavericks and Minnesota Timberwolves near Game 1 of their Western Conference final series against each other, Mike Conley continues to deal with a right Soleus strain. He's considered questionable to play in the series opener.

I love that you qualify it with “might not even play” yet you are ready to say you’re gonna win. You do realize how long it has been since Dallas won a game 1, right?

[BlacJacMac]

Semi-related, we gotta collectivize and stop being so defensive on the General Board. Not a one or two poster thing at all, even I am guilty of getting super triggered by the Rudy Gobert hate after game five (still drives me crazy that he gets hate, instead of people realizing that we saw a generational performance from a multi-time MVP).

This fanbase is on a trajectory to get absolutely clowned on if we lose.

True. But I am more worried about a zombie apocalypse than the Mavs getting to the NBA finals.

Zombie apocalypse it is I guess, Conley might not even play.

MINNEAPOLIS — As the Dallas Mavericks and Minnesota Timberwolves near Game 1 of their Western Conference final series against each other, Mike Conley continues to deal with a right Soleus strain. He's considered questionable to play in the series opener.

Wolves beat writer:

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[KGdaBom]

Technically we were better than than wolves in defensive rating in the final 20. Now if you make me pick who has the better defense, I'll give the slight edge to the wolves anyway, although I think it's close to a wash. I think offensively though the Mavericks have a higher ceiling with Luka and Kyrie which tips the series for me in their favor.

I won't be shocked if the wolves win. They're a good team although I have the Mavs winning. But I think wolves fans are grossly underestimating the Mavericks here. The Mavericks are much better than the Sun's were, and I think are better when the nuggets were.

Delusions of grandeur for a 5th seed team. If the Mavs had better numbers than the Wolves minus KAT during a quarter of the season I'm happy for them. Denver and Minnesota were the 2nd and 3rd seeded teams because they are both better than the Mavs. I give the Mavs props for pulling out the win against OKC, but they are small and have zero playoff experience. OKC could have easily won that series, but they came up one basket short in game 6.

Mavs were a 5th seed because the start of the season they weren't very good, not only would they not be here they might have missed the playoffs if they had their starting season roster. At the trade deadline they replaced 2 of their 5 starters with better starters, not only that Kyrie missed 24 games while they had the bad team before the trade deadline, so they just weren't good enough. No other team had an upgrade like that (to my knowledge) at the trade deadline. If the Mavs had PJ and Gaff at the beginning of the season they would have been the #1 seed. You can just do the math W/L since trade deadline over a full season is 60 wins.

You can say but they weren't and that math might not happen blah blah fine, but I wouldn't consider the Mavs a typical 5th seed that you're just going to streamroll. Or go ahead if you insist.

Honestly as much as I enjoyed my friends Zombie Apocalypse post I think you have a better chance than that.
You rally around Zombie apocalypse we will simply take care of business like we've been doing for 93 games. We will see who advances to the NBA finals.

Watch on YouTube

[Worm Guts]

Delusions of grandeur for a 5th seed team. If the Mavs had better numbers than the Wolves minus KAT during a quarter of the season I'm happy for them. Denver and Minnesota were the 2nd and 3rd seeded teams because they are both better than the Mavs. I give the Mavs props for pulling out the win against OKC, but they are small and have zero playoff experience. OKC could have easily won that series, but they came up one basket short in game 6.

Mavs were a 5th seed because the start of the season they weren't very good, not only would they not be here they might have missed the playoffs if they had their starting season roster. At the trade deadline they replaced 2 of their 5 starters with better starters, not only that Kyrie missed 24 games while they had the bad team before the trade deadline, so they just weren't good enough. No other team had an upgrade like that (to my knowledge) at the trade deadline. If the Mavs had PJ and Gaff at the beginning of the season they would have been the #1 seed. You can just do the math W/L since trade deadline over a full season is 60 wins.

You can say but they weren't and that math might not happen blah blah fine, but I wouldn't consider the Mavs a typical 5th seed that you're just going to streamroll. Or go ahead if you insist.

Honestly as much as I enjoyed my friends Zombie Apocalypse post I think you have a better chance than that.
You rally around Zombie apocalypse we will simply take care of business like we've been doing for 93 games. We will see who advances to the NBA finals.

Watch on YouTube

Between this and calling everyone out with midseason doubts, it would be nice if you quit the antagonizing everyone.
Let’s enjoy the positive energy of the team being successful while we have it.

[KGdaBom]

Mavs were a 5th seed because the start of the season they weren't very good, not only would they not be here they might have missed the playoffs if they had their starting season roster. At the trade deadline they replaced 2 of their 5 starters with better starters, not only that Kyrie missed 24 games while they had the bad team before the trade deadline, so they just weren't good enough. No other team had an upgrade like that (to my knowledge) at the trade deadline. If the Mavs had PJ and Gaff at the beginning of the season they would have been the #1 seed. You can just do the math W/L since trade deadline over a full season is 60 wins.

You can say but they weren't and that math might not happen blah blah fine, but I wouldn't consider the Mavs a typical 5th seed that you're just going to streamroll. Or go ahead if you insist.

Honestly as much as I enjoyed my friends Zombie Apocalypse post I think you have a better chance than that.
You rally around Zombie apocalypse we will simply take care of business like we've been doing for 93 games. We will see who advances to the NBA finals.

Watch on YouTube

Between this and calling everyone out with midseason doubts, it would be nice if you quit the antagonizing everyone.
Let’s enjoy the positive energy of the team being successful while we have it.

It's a little trash talk with an opposing fan who came to our board. I think it was pretty mild. I didn't call out everyone who had midseason doubts. I pointed out a select few extremely negative posts. Maybe I should just pretend they never happened. I admit I'm a bit sensitive about people who are supposed to be our fans pretty much calling our team and it's players worthless.

[Dewey]

Technically we were better than than wolves in defensive rating in the final 20. Now if you make me pick who has the better defense, I'll give the slight edge to the wolves anyway, although I think it's close to a wash. I think offensively though the Mavericks have a higher ceiling with Luka and Kyrie which tips the series for me in their favor.

I won't be shocked if the wolves win. They're a good team although I have the Mavs winning. But I think wolves fans are grossly underestimating the Mavericks here. The Mavericks are much better than the Sun's were, and I think are better when the nuggets were.

Delusions of grandeur for a 5th seed team. If the Mavs had better numbers than the Wolves minus KAT during a quarter of the season I'm happy for them. Denver and Minnesota were the 2nd and 3rd seeded teams because they are both better than the Mavs. I give the Mavs props for pulling out the win against OKC, but they are small and have zero playoff experience. OKC could have easily won that series, but they came up one basket short in game 6.

Mavs were a 5th seed because the start of the season they weren't very good, not only would they not be here they might have missed the playoffs if they had their starting season roster. At the trade deadline they replaced 2 of their 5 starters with better starters, not only that Kyrie missed 24 games while they had the bad team before the trade deadline, so they just weren't good enough. No other team had an upgrade like that (to my knowledge) at the trade deadline. If the Mavs had PJ and Gaff at the beginning of the season they would have been the #1 seed. You can just do the math W/L since trade deadline over a full season is 60 wins.

You can say but they weren't and that math might not happen blah blah fine, but I wouldn't consider the Mavs a typical 5th seed that you're just going to streamroll. Or go ahead if you insist.

Blah blah blah … and more blah blah blah … we coulda, we woulda, we shoulda … then if that happens this might have been … words of a wannabe

[TimberKat]

IND just shot themselves in the foot. Should had won game one but now they are going to OT.

[KGdaBom]

IND just shot themselves in the foot. Should had won game one but now they are going to OT.

Boston just took a 1 point lead with a minute to go and then Hali turned it over. Big chance for Boston and Tatum hit's the 3. Boston is going to win. I just checked in in OT. Sounds like Indi had the game and totally choked it.

[TimberKat]

IND just shot themselves in the foot. Should had won game one but now they are going to OT.

Boston just took a 1 point lead with a minute to go and then Hali turned it over. Big chance for Boston and Tatum hit's the 3. Boston is going to win. I just checked in in OT. Sounds like Indi had the game and totally choked it.

Hali had a critical turned in regulation too. I can't see IND come back from this heartbreaking loss.

[Domejandro]

Semi-related, we gotta collectivize and stop being so defensive on the General Board. Not a one or two poster thing at all, even I am guilty of getting super triggered by the Rudy Gobert hate after game five (still drives me crazy that he gets hate, instead of people realizing that we saw a generational performance from a multi-time MVP).

This fanbase is on a trajectory to get absolutely clowned on if we lose.

Simple Solution. Don't lose.

For what it is worth, the subtext of my post is that Minnesota fans are being annoying and need to chill out on the General Board.

[KGdaBom]

Semi-related, we gotta collectivize and stop being so defensive on the General Board. Not a one or two poster thing at all, even I am guilty of getting super triggered by the Rudy Gobert hate after game five (still drives me crazy that he gets hate, instead of people realizing that we saw a generational performance from a multi-time MVP).

This fanbase is on a trajectory to get absolutely clowned on if we lose.

Simple Solution. Don't lose.

For what it is worth, the subtext of my post is that Minnesota fans are being annoying and need to chill out on the General Board.

I almost never go to the general board. I'm not interested in talking to those people most of the time LOL.

[UglyBugBall]

Delusions of grandeur for a 5th seed team. If the Mavs had better numbers than the Wolves minus KAT during a quarter of the season I'm happy for them. Denver and Minnesota were the 2nd and 3rd seeded teams because they are both better than the Mavs. I give the Mavs props for pulling out the win against OKC, but they are small and have zero playoff experience. OKC could have easily won that series, but they came up one basket short in game 6.

Mavs were a 5th seed because the start of the season they weren't very good, not only would they not be here they might have missed the playoffs if they had their starting season roster. At the trade deadline they replaced 2 of their 5 starters with better starters, not only that Kyrie missed 24 games while they had the bad team before the trade deadline, so they just weren't good enough. No other team had an upgrade like that (to my knowledge) at the trade deadline. If the Mavs had PJ and Gaff at the beginning of the season they would have been the #1 seed. You can just do the math W/L since trade deadline over a full season is 60 wins.

You can say but they weren't and that math might not happen blah blah fine, but I wouldn't consider the Mavs a typical 5th seed that you're just going to streamroll. Or go ahead if you insist.

Blah blah blah … and more blah blah blah … we coulda, we woulda, we shoulda … then if that happens this might have been … words of a wannabe

We're a few hours from 'coulda' to 'did'.

[KGdaBom]

Mavs were a 5th seed because the start of the season they weren't very good, not only would they not be here they might have missed the playoffs if they had their starting season roster. At the trade deadline they replaced 2 of their 5 starters with better starters, not only that Kyrie missed 24 games while they had the bad team before the trade deadline, so they just weren't good enough. No other team had an upgrade like that (to my knowledge) at the trade deadline. If the Mavs had PJ and Gaff at the beginning of the season they would have been the #1 seed. You can just do the math W/L since trade deadline over a full season is 60 wins.

You can say but they weren't and that math might not happen blah blah fine, but I wouldn't consider the Mavs a typical 5th seed that you're just going to streamroll. Or go ahead if you insist.

Blah blah blah … and more blah blah blah … we coulda, we woulda, we shoulda … then if that happens this might have been … words of a wannabe

We're a few hours from 'coulda' to 'did'.

Or didn't. We will find out soon. I'm looking forward to it.

[Note30]

I have a feeling Ant is going to be on Luka tomorrow, Conley on Kyrie, McDaniels on Derrick Jones Jr, Gobert on PJ, and KAT on Gafford/Lively.

Anderson will back up Ant, NAW for Conley, and Reid for Gobert.

I could see McDaniels and Gobert switching assignments.

I think this makes the most sense because the Mavs are pretty heliocentric around Luka, and he's going to be looking for switches and kickouts, I think one of those two schemes is the best for our defense.

[minimus]

Conley on Kyrie

Last game against MIN Kyrie absolutely destroyed Gobert/Edwards in drop, and abused Conley in post.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I think Jaden may take Luka or Kyrie. Our best defender against one of the 2 best players there make sense. The most important will be as previous games to make them work as hard as possible and make them gassed after 40 min. Luka is a fantastic player but he is not very physical. FT will also be a key as Luka is a fantastic flopper on top of being a crying baby.

[UglyBugBall]

I think Jaden may take Luka or Kyrie. Our best defender against one of the 2 best players there make sense. The most important will be as previous games to make them work as hard as possible and make them gassed after 40 min. Luka is a fantastic player but he is not very physical. FT will also be a key as Luka is a fantastic flopper on top of being a crying baby.

Luka is not very physical? His entire game relies on bulldozing through one or two guys on his way to the rim for the kickout or finish. He's not fast, but he compensates by being extremely physical.

[Colbinii]

I have a feeling Ant is going to be on Luka tomorrow, Conley on Kyrie, McDaniels on Derrick Jones Jr, Gobert on PJ, and KAT on Gafford/Lively.

Anderson will back up Ant, NAW for Conley, and Reid for Gobert.

I could see McDaniels and Gobert switching assignments.

I think this makes the most sense because the Mavs are pretty heliocentric around Luka, and he's going to be looking for switches and kickouts, I think one of those two schemes is the best for our defense.

Gobert will be on their Drop Center, KAT will be on DJJ. There is no reason to put Rudy on a high-volume 3P shooter when he can stay in the paint against their 2 Centers who can't shoot beyond 3 feet.

The question is how do we deploy ANT/McDaniels/Conley vs Luka/PJ/Kyrie.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I think Jaden may take Luka or Kyrie. Our best defender against one of the 2 best players there make sense. The most important will be as previous games to make them work as hard as possible and make them gassed after 40 min. Luka is a fantastic player but he is not very physical. FT will also be a key as Luka is a fantastic flopper on top of being a crying baby.

Luka is not very physical? His entire game relies on bulldozing through one or two guys on his way to the rim for the kickout or finish. He's not fast, but he compensates by being extremely physical.

What i wanna say is that Luka is not physically able to play 45 min without slowing down. We have to take advantage of that. If he ended the game gassed, he may miss important shoots at clutch time.