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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#81 » by Rookie-Mistake » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:22 am

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Rookie-Mistake wrote:I think we were talking about Dyson Daniels, not DDV.

But yes, finishing at the rim is one way that he can improve FG% and PPG.

I know we need to build around ANT to be a success, but he actually needs to lift his game as well.

Im really intrigued with the point guard position, we won't be getting improvement out of Mike, finch's hesitancy in giving dilly a shot..

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I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention to the previous posts. Dyson Daniels is more than likely untouchable.

Would be nice to know Mike's level of commitment next year. If he is all in, ok, let's roll with you and rob.

If not, we try to get tyus. Or, somehow take whatever value we can get out of Julius for a pg.


I,m concerned a bout the PG position. Mike s great, smart. leadership but he is 38 years old and can't play 70 games at 25-28 min and be 100% at PO time. I'm all in to try Rob more but i do not forget that last year when Finch five him a go, he was shooting 15% at 3 and providing no defense....if Mike go down and Rob does not improve a lot, we have a huge problem. Getting Tyus is a good solution. We can still save some min for Rob and see how he improve.
Rob's to little.. he has to be ivserson good to make up for his lack of size..

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#83 » by winforlose » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:26 pm

I don’t know who and I don’t know for what, but I expect one player and at least one pick to move tonight. I could see NAW being moved at the prior cap number so we don’t need to sign and trade him (not sure how that works,) and I could see Randle for a PG and picks. I could also see Rudy on the move tonight (we need a more Ant friendly C.) Then again I could be wrong and TC makes the moves in the days and weeks to come. Better still he might even pull off a multi player blockbuster the day before training camp ;).
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#84 » by moss_is_1 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:34 pm

winforlose wrote:I don’t know who and I don’t know for what, but I expect one player and at least one pick to move tonight. I could see NAW being moved at the prior cap number so we don’t need to sign and trade him (not sure how that works,) and I could see Randle for a PG and picks. I could also see Rudy on the move tonight (we need a more Ant friendly C.) Then again I could be wrong and TC makes the moves in the days and weeks to come. Better still he might even pull off a multi player blockbuster the day before training camp ;).

Naw cant be moved - hes not under contract. Randle would have to opt in to his play option to be traded.

I wouldn't expect much player movement. Maybe a DDV trade? Very unlikely yet. Maybe we include Leonard Miller in something. I believe Garza and Minott have team options so not sure they can be dealt.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#85 » by winforlose » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:41 pm

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winforlose wrote:I don’t know who and I don’t know for what, but I expect one player and at least one pick to move tonight. I could see NAW being moved at the prior cap number so we don’t need to sign and trade him (not sure how that works,) and I could see Randle for a PG and picks. I could also see Rudy on the move tonight (we need a more Ant friendly C.) Then again I could be wrong and TC makes the moves in the days and weeks to come. Better still he might even pull off a multi player blockbuster the day before training camp ;).

Naw cant be moved - hes not under contract. Randle would have to opt in to his play option to be traded.

I wouldn't expect much player movement. Maybe a DDV trade? Very unlikely yet. Maybe we include Leonard Miller in something. I believe Garza and Minott have team options so not sure they can be dealt.


I want to preface this by saying I am stating understandings not facts. I could be and likely am wrong. Please correct me if I am mistaken (again very possible.)

My understanding is that until the draft begins last years contracts are still in effect. So NAW is under contract until the draft begins. Likewise all the contract values from last season remain in effect until the draft starts the new season. It could also be draft day rather than draft night (I might be confused.)
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#86 » by Klomp » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:43 pm

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winforlose wrote:I don’t know who and I don’t know for what, but I expect one player and at least one pick to move tonight. I could see NAW being moved at the prior cap number so we don’t need to sign and trade him (not sure how that works,) and I could see Randle for a PG and picks. I could also see Rudy on the move tonight (we need a more Ant friendly C.) Then again I could be wrong and TC makes the moves in the days and weeks to come. Better still he might even pull off a multi player blockbuster the day before training camp ;).

Naw cant be moved - hes not under contract. Randle would have to opt in to his play option to be traded.

I wouldn't expect much player movement. Maybe a DDV trade? Very unlikely yet. Maybe we include Leonard Miller in something. I believe Garza and Minott have team options so not sure they can be dealt.


I want to preface this by saying I am stating understandings not facts. I could be and likely am wrong. Please correct me if I am mistaken (again very possible.)

My understanding is that until the draft begins last years contracts are still in effect. So NAW is under contract until the draft begins. Likewise all the contract values from last season remain in effect until the draft starts the new season. It could also be draft day rather than draft night (I might be confused.)

You are right about using 2024-25 salaries until July 1. However, any contract traded needs to have 2025-26 money. Pending free agents cannot be traded.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#87 » by winforlose » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:44 pm

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moss_is_1 wrote:Naw cant be moved - hes not under contract. Randle would have to opt in to his play option to be traded.

I wouldn't expect much player movement. Maybe a DDV trade? Very unlikely yet. Maybe we include Leonard Miller in something. I believe Garza and Minott have team options so not sure they can be dealt.


I want to preface this by saying I am stating understandings not facts. I could be and likely am wrong. Please correct me if I am mistaken (again very possible.)

My understanding is that until the draft begins last years contracts are still in effect. So NAW is under contract until the draft begins. Likewise all the contract values from last season remain in effect until the draft starts the new season. It could also be draft day rather than draft night (I might be confused.)

You are right about using 2024-25 salaries until July 1. However, any contract traded needs to have 2025-26 money. Pending free agents cannot be traded.


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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#88 » by moss_is_1 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:45 pm

winforlose wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:
winforlose wrote:I don’t know who and I don’t know for what, but I expect one player and at least one pick to move tonight. I could see NAW being moved at the prior cap number so we don’t need to sign and trade him (not sure how that works,) and I could see Randle for a PG and picks. I could also see Rudy on the move tonight (we need a more Ant friendly C.) Then again I could be wrong and TC makes the moves in the days and weeks to come. Better still he might even pull off a multi player blockbuster the day before training camp ;).

Naw cant be moved - hes not under contract. Randle would have to opt in to his play option to be traded.

I wouldn't expect much player movement. Maybe a DDV trade? Very unlikely yet. Maybe we include Leonard Miller in something. I believe Garza and Minott have team options so not sure they can be dealt.


I want to preface this by saying I am stating understandings not facts. I could be and likely am wrong. Please correct me if I am mistaken (again very possible.)

My understanding is that until the draft begins last years contracts are still in effect. So NAW is under contract until the draft begins. Likewise all the contract values from last season remain in effect until the draft starts the new season. It could also be draft day rather than draft night (I might be confused.)

Yes and no. From my understanding almost all trades are agreed upon and using 25-26 salaries, where the trade is announced but not made official until the new league year. I want to see once the season is over now, NAW is a free agent and has no contract. So he cant get a new deal until July 1st, beginning of free agency.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#89 » by Klomp » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:52 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:Yes and no. From my understanding almost all trades are agreed upon and using 25-26 salaries, where the trade is announced but not made official until the new league year. I want to see once the season is over now, NAW is a free agent and has no contract. So he cant get a new deal until July 1st, beginning of free agency.

This year that will probably happen more, due to the more restrictive cap situations. But for example, the trade with Washington that resulted in Ricky Rubio was finalized immediately. The Bane trade is a current year example as well.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#90 » by minimus » Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:55 pm

Considering draft outcome I believe that the best scenario would be re-sign both Randle and Reid at reasonable price, sign-and-trade NAW, find a pass-first on two-way contract AND stay below second apron.

Gobert/Reid/Beringer + Zikarsky
Randle/McDaniels/Miller
McDaniels/TJ/Minott
Edwards/Clark/DDV
DDV/Rob/Conley + ???
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#91 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:57 pm

minimus wrote:Considering draft outcome I believe that the best scenario would be re-sign both Randle and Reid at reasonable price, sign-and-trade NAW, find a pass-first on two-way contract AND stay below second apron.

Gobert/Reid/Beringer + Zikarsky
Randle/McDaniels/Miller
McDaniels/TJ/Minott
Edwards/Clark/DDV
DDV/Rob/Conley + ???


You're starting DDV at PG?
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#92 » by minimus » Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:59 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
minimus wrote:Considering draft outcome I believe that the best scenario would be re-sign both Randle and Reid at reasonable price, sign-and-trade NAW, find a pass-first on two-way contract AND stay below second apron.

Gobert/Reid/Beringer + Zikarsky
Randle/McDaniels/Miller
McDaniels/TJ/Minott
Edwards/Clark/DDV
DDV/Rob/Conley + ???


You're starting DDV at PG?


Run it back
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#93 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:35 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
minimus wrote:Considering draft outcome I believe that the best scenario would be re-sign both Randle and Reid at reasonable price, sign-and-trade NAW, find a pass-first on two-way contract AND stay below second apron.

Gobert/Reid/Beringer + Zikarsky
Randle/McDaniels/Miller
McDaniels/TJ/Minott
Edwards/Clark/DDV
DDV/Rob/Conley + ???


You're starting DDV at PG?


He kinda needs to figure it out. He's not strong enough play SF. We can't use somebody who just plays back up SG only.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#94 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:56 pm

minimus wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
minimus wrote:Considering draft outcome I believe that the best scenario would be re-sign both Randle and Reid at reasonable price, sign-and-trade NAW, find a pass-first on two-way contract AND stay below second apron.

Gobert/Reid/Beringer + Zikarsky
Randle/McDaniels/Miller
McDaniels/TJ/Minott
Edwards/Clark/DDV
DDV/Rob/Conley + ???


You're starting DDV at PG?


Run it back


By why handicap us by making DDV handle the ball?
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#95 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:56 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
minimus wrote:Considering draft outcome I believe that the best scenario would be re-sign both Randle and Reid at reasonable price, sign-and-trade NAW, find a pass-first on two-way contract AND stay below second apron.

Gobert/Reid/Beringer + Zikarsky
Randle/McDaniels/Miller
McDaniels/TJ/Minott
Edwards/Clark/DDV
DDV/Rob/Conley + ???


You're starting DDV at PG?


He kinda needs to figure it out. He's not strong enough play SF. We can't use somebody who just plays back up SG only.


He's 28 years-old. He's not going to suddenly become an on-ball player.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#96 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:39 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
You're starting DDV at PG?


He kinda needs to figure it out. He's not strong enough play SF. We can't use somebody who just plays back up SG only.


He's 28 years-old. He's not going to suddenly become an on-ball player.


He's been passable at times. I'd give him another shot, we can look to trade him if it's not working out.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#97 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:44 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:
He kinda needs to figure it out. He's not strong enough play SF. We can't use somebody who just plays back up SG only.


He's 28 years-old. He's not going to suddenly become an on-ball player.


He's been passable at times. I'd give him another shot, we can look to trade him if it's not working out.


I just think his whole game falls apart on ball. He's not a create his own shot player, he's not a pull-up shooter and he's not a natural passer that turns it over too much.

He excels as a catch and shoot guy.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#98 » by Neeva » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:00 pm

I still wanna trade DDV , sorry. I want more minutes for Rob and Jaylen plus wolves need to get as much value out DDV’s “value” contract while he still has multiple years left on it. Jaylen and Rob couldn’t possibly do any worse than DDV this past playoffs.
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Post#99 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:07 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
He's 28 years-old. He's not going to suddenly become an on-ball player.


He's been passable at times. I'd give him another shot, we can look to trade him if it's not working out.


I just think his whole game falls apart on ball. He's not a create his own shot player, he's not a pull-up shooter and he's not a natural passer that turns it over too much.

He excels as a catch and shoot guy.

So call Ant the PG and Donte the SG then. It's not that hard.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#100 » by winforlose » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:11 pm

Klomp wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:

He's been passable at times. I'd give him another shot, we can look to trade him if it's not working out.


I just think his whole game falls apart on ball. He's not a create his own shot player, he's not a pull-up shooter and he's not a natural passer that turns it over too much.

He excels as a catch and shoot guy.

So call Ant the PG and Donte the SG then. It's not that hard.


Ant isn’t a PG. He lacks the handle, BBIQ, instinct, and role. The whole point of bringing in a PG is to get Ant OFF THE BALL. In theory off ball Ant will have opportunities to catch and go before the defense loads up. DDV is a train wreck as the primary ball guard. When he isn’t driving and turning it over he is pulling up and bricking 3s. DDV as a backup to Ant is fine, but he needs starter minutes to catch a rhythm. This was a terrible return for KAT and resale is also probably gonna be bad.

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