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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#81 » by Domejandro » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:25 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
Domejandro wrote:I love that trade for Minnesota. Replenishing two seconds at the cost of dropping five slots is great value.


You can never have too many Minotts Millers and Moores.

Minotts and Millers and Moores OH MY!

Who wants to draft a guy with mid 1st round talent or a plug and play backup center anyway.

There are 2nd round draft picks with 1st round value and 2nd round picks that are little better than undrafted free agents.
And we chose 3 of the latter over one of the former.

If he had mid-first round talent, he would have been taken in the first round. He absolutely could pan out, but we are talking about him being passed on thirty times in a thin Kraft; let’s not overstate his value.

Beyond this, the idea that 31 has significant first round value, but 36 is a garbage pick doesn’t add up. The hyperventilation seems kind of silly.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#82 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:25 pm

LibertyPrime wrote:So...Adou Thiero, then?

I'd be good with that. Maybe Penda or Kam Jones.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#83 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:26 pm

younggunsmn wrote:Couldnt even pull that worst of MN/CLE/UTAH '27 first from Phoenix.


Wouldn't the Stepien rule prevent that since PHX traded away their 2026, 2027 and 2028 picks?
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#84 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:26 pm

Theiro, Penda, Jones or Proctor.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#85 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:27 pm

LibertyPrime wrote:So...Adou Thiero, then?


Yes, please.

I think he has a chance to be like 85% of a Thompson Twin.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#86 » by Mattya » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:27 pm

Hopefully Thiero falls. If not, then Proctor, then Brea or trade out
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#87 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:27 pm

Domejandro wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
Domejandro wrote:I love that trade for Minnesota. Replenishing two seconds at the cost of dropping five slots is great value.


You can never have too many Minotts Millers and Moores.

Minotts and Millers and Moores OH MY!

Who wants to draft a guy with mid 1st round talent or a plug and play backup center anyway.

There are 2nd round draft picks with 1st round value and 2nd round picks that are little better than undrafted free agents.
And we chose 3 of the latter over one of the former.

If he had mid-first round talent, he would have been taken in the first round. He absolutely could pan out, but we are talking about him being passed on thirty times in a thin Kraft; let’s not overstate his value.

Beyond this, the idea that 31 has significant first round value, but 36 is a garbage pick doesn’t add up. The hyperventilation seems kind of silly.


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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#88 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:28 pm

Charlotte has two picks ahead of the wolves, someone decent will be there at 36.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#89 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:29 pm

Domejandro wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
Domejandro wrote:I love that trade for Minnesota. Replenishing two seconds at the cost of dropping five slots is great value.


You can never have too many Minotts Millers and Moores.

Minotts and Millers and Moores OH MY!

Who wants to draft a guy with mid 1st round talent or a plug and play backup center anyway.

There are 2nd round draft picks with 1st round value and 2nd round picks that are little better than undrafted free agents.
And we chose 3 of the latter over one of the former.

If he had mid-first round talent, he would have been taken in the first round. He absolutely could pan out, but we are talking about him being passed on thirty times in a thin Kraft; let’s not overstate his value.

Beyond this, the idea that 31 has significant first round value, but 36 is a garbage pick doesn’t add up. The hyperventilation seems kind of silly.

I think it's very possible that YoungGuns is right. I appreciate him sticking to his guns on Fleming. Now let's hope he's wrong and we come up with a winner.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#90 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:30 pm

Mattya wrote:Hopefully Thiero falls. If not, then Proctor, then Brea or trade out

Why Brea over Kam Jones. All the numbers favor Jones.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#91 » by LibertyPrime » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:30 pm

There should be someone interesting at #36.

Let's just get Reynaud and have three dudes speaking French in the locker room next year.

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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#92 » by younggunsmn » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:30 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:DISGRACEFUL

Can't wait to see which Josh Minott level player we draft now.
If we dont keep trading down until the pick is just cash again.

SO EXCITED to have 3 of my favorite picks in the draft (Fleming, Reyanud, Kalkbrenner) available at 31 and zero chance we pick any of them.

Back off the ledge YoungGuns. It will be OK. I promise you.


Man I've got a recliner and a flatscreen and a minifridge on this ledge, I've been out here so long.
I need to add a damn zen garden or something because cheering for this team turns me into a soccer hooligan.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#93 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:31 pm

The two seconds we are getting from Phoenix are likely the two they just acquired from Brooklyn, for the record.

The only other possible 2nd PHX can trade is the least favorable of DEN and GSW in 2026.

EDIT: Hold on, I may have read wrong?

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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#94 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:33 pm

Neeva wrote:Charlotte has two picks ahead of the wolves, someone decent will be there at 36.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#95 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:33 pm

Brooklyn seconds sound good to me, they should continue to suck for a while. I would hate it if it was seconds in the late 40’s and 50’s those are basically useless.

Also don’t get mad yet, save the anger for if Fleming turns out good for the Suns. I am hoping he sucks for them though.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#96 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:34 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:DISGRACEFUL

Can't wait to see which Josh Minott level player we draft now.
If we dont keep trading down until the pick is just cash again.

SO EXCITED to have 3 of my favorite picks in the draft (Fleming, Reyanud, Kalkbrenner) available at 31 and zero chance we pick any of them.

Back off the ledge YoungGuns. It will be OK. I promise you.


Man I've got a recliner and a flatscreen and a minifridge on this ledge, I've been out here so long.
I need to add a damn zen garden or something because cheering for this team turns me into a soccer hooligan.

:banghead: :lol:
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#97 » by Domejandro » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:35 pm

Read on Twitter


Seems fair enough. Minnesota will have the worse of DEN/GSW and the worst of IND/MIA/SAS next season.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#98 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:36 pm

Ugh, next year’s second will likely be in 50’s
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#99 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:37 pm

Klomp wrote:The two seconds we are getting from Phoenix are likely the two they just acquired from Brooklyn, for the record.

The only other possible 2nd PHX can trade is the least favorable of DEN and GSW in 2026.

EDIT: Hold on, I may have read wrong?

EDIT2:
Read on Twitter

a 32 2nd?????? Oh well.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#100 » by Devilzsidewalk » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:38 pm

I like Thiero, but if we're drafting someone and have to teach them how to shoot anyways, should we just take DInk Pate? He is younger and has rare ball handling for his size.
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