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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#801 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Mar 9, 2021 7:36 pm

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winforlose wrote:I have been seeing a lot of talk about Ant and who he is, what he is, what he will be. While I am the first to point out his flaws (and believe me there are a lot of them,) I feel it’s important to point out his development might be the most bizarre, handicapped, and outright fu***** of any lottery pick in wolves history. Between the short college season and the fact that he is 19 he really is closer to a straight from high school then a one and done. Add to that no Summer league, short preseason, condensed regular season (fewer practices,) and all the crap that comes with having a bad team, bad coach, bad system. Edwards needs to be cut a lot of slack and we need to understand that he is a serious work in progress. We know he is using poor judgment, we know he is chucking, but just because we are seeing his floor doesn’t mean we should dismiss his ceiling. The question is whether he will listen to Finch and whether Finch will hold him accountable.


I can't really argue with the rest, but he didn't have a short college season. He played 32 games at Georgia and COVID only cost him a single SEC tournament game. His team wasn't going to play in the NCAA or NIT tournaments regardless.



Edwards played more games last season than the next 6 guys taken in the draft... and more than 2x as many games as the #2 and #3 picks combined.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#802 » by winforlose » Tue Mar 9, 2021 7:48 pm

AbeVigodaLive wrote:
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winforlose wrote:I have been seeing a lot of talk about Ant and who he is, what he is, what he will be. While I am the first to point out his flaws (and believe me there are a lot of them,) I feel it’s important to point out his development might be the most bizarre, handicapped, and outright fu***** of any lottery pick in wolves history. Between the short college season and the fact that he is 19 he really is closer to a straight from high school then a one and done. Add to that no Summer league, short preseason, condensed regular season (fewer practices,) and all the crap that comes with having a bad team, bad coach, bad system. Edwards needs to be cut a lot of slack and we need to understand that he is a serious work in progress. We know he is using poor judgment, we know he is chucking, but just because we are seeing his floor doesn’t mean we should dismiss his ceiling. The question is whether he will listen to Finch and whether Finch will hold him accountable.


I can't really argue with the rest, but he didn't have a short college season. He played 32 games at Georgia and COVID only cost him a single SEC tournament game. His team wasn't going to play in the NCAA or NIT tournaments regardless.



Edwards played more games last season than the next 6 guys taken in the draft... and more than 2x as many games as the #2 and #3 picks combined.


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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#803 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Mar 9, 2021 7:51 pm

winforlose wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
I can't really argue with the rest, but he didn't have a short college season. He played 32 games at Georgia and COVID only cost him a single SEC tournament game. His team wasn't going to play in the NCAA or NIT tournaments regardless.



Edwards played more games last season than the next 6 guys taken in the draft... and more than 2x as many games as the #2 and #3 picks combined.


My mistake.



I didn't mean to pile on... just found it interesting when I looked it up.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#804 » by winforlose » Tue Mar 9, 2021 9:12 pm

AbeVigodaLive wrote:
winforlose wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:

Edwards played more games last season than the next 6 guys taken in the draft... and more than 2x as many games as the #2 and #3 picks combined.


My mistake.



I didn't mean to pile on... just found it interesting when I looked it up.


I don’t follow college ball, I didn’t know that he would not have been eligible for MM or that he didn’t miss that many games. It was my mistake, no apology necessary, but I appreciate it non the less :)
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#805 » by Jedzz » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:56 pm

3rd game of the season
Edwards-rookie: 21 FGA, 1 of 9 3FG(11%), 5-12 2FG(42%)

7th game of season
Edwards-rookie: 19 FGA, 1 of 7 3FG(14%), 5-12 2FG(42%)

8th game of season
Edwards-rookie: 21 FGA, 3 of 10 3FG(30%), 8-11 2FG(72%)

This is too much shooting for a rookie, especially for someone at chucking %. That's not how you develop a rookie. But maybe good from 2s, which were a mix of attacking in close and mid to longer 2s which we know he was taking. But that's at least usable and can net him extra FT shots. In that 8th game he drew 7 foul shots. Specifically, it means on 11 2FG attempts, or those 11 possessions, he brought home 21pts. (unless he drew any fouls while taking 3s that day). That speaks to how effective he can be working inside more with the addition of drawing foul shots.

After that 8th game I think someone talked to him about taking too many 3s as it would be another nine game stretch before he would attempt as much as eight 3s in a game again. Not sure, but either way it seemed his confidence took a hit. It is during this next stretch his minutes start to fluctuate but I see a rookie working on other things during this time and was positive about what I was seeing in this next stretch even if they weren't about showcasing the rookie.

By game 18 he's starting and over 30mins every game. Games 16-20 he shot the 3 ball well, then it fell back to norm or worse.
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Post#806 » by Jedzz » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:59 pm

Game 9 Edwards only attempts four 3s and it's his first positive +/- game since game 2.

Game 10 of the season, a WIN against Spurs. Edwards was down to 17 minutes and missed all 8 shots taken.
One major factor wins that game for Wolves. eFG% Wolves: 47.5% and Spurs only 42.6%

LMA took 21 shots for 20pts FAIL
Walker took 19 shots for 25 pts PASS
P Mills took 19 shots for 18pts FAIL
Murray took 15 shots for 11 pts FAIL

meanwhile...
Beasley 18 shots for 24 pts
Russell 21 shots for 27 pts
Reid 8 shots for 11 pts
Rubio 5 shots for 8 pts
Juancho 5 shots for 7 pts
Okogie 5 shots for 6 pts
E Davis 3 shots for 6 pts
Vanderbilt 4 shots for 5 pts
Wolves all had Positive pts over shot attempts except for Edwards/Culver (1of13 as a pair)

Wolves players without Edwards/Culver were 48.5% from the field and 19 of 23 from FT (83%), Spurs only drew 14 FTa.
Edwards 0% 0-8, no FTa
Culver 20% 1-5, no FTa
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Post#808 » by _AIJ_ » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:19 pm

Winnings wont let people talk **** about you. Look at Donovan Mitchell, i keep saying Ant is playing like him. He shot 9/23 39%, 3/9 from 3 with 4 TOs. He did have 6 rebounds and 8 assist. People wont talk about his bad shooting game because his team is winning almost everything.

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Post#809 » by jpatrick » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:23 pm

Ant has been very good for a 19 year old. He has to change a lot of thing otherwise he’ll simply be a good stats on a bad team kinda guy due to his inefficient/ low BBIQ style. But he has a chance.

His biggest problem is comparisons to Ball. Ball may average 20/10/10 next year on good efficiency and become a top 10 player. Fans (including me) are just going to have to let the comparison go and Hope Ant improves.
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Post#810 » by Neeva » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:31 pm

Warrior fans are already regretting taking wiseman lol
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Post#811 » by Neeva » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:33 pm

jpatrick wrote:Ant has been very good for a 19 year old. He has to change a lot of thing otherwise he’ll simply be a good stats on a bad team kinda guy due to his inefficient/ low BBIQ style. But he has a chance.

His biggest problem is comparisons to Ball. Ball may average 20/10/10 next year on good efficiency and become a top 10 player. Fans (including me) are just going to have to let the comparison go and Hope Ant improves.


You are in love with Lamelo, I wondered why you were quiet the other night when lamelo had a bad game...
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Post#812 » by jpatrick » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:58 pm

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jpatrick wrote:Ant has been very good for a 19 year old. He has to change a lot of thing otherwise he’ll simply be a good stats on a bad team kinda guy due to his inefficient/ low BBIQ style. But he has a chance.

His biggest problem is comparisons to Ball. Ball may average 20/10/10 next year on good efficiency and become a top 10 player. Fans (including me) are just going to have to let the comparison go and Hope Ant improves.


You are in love with Lamelo, I wondered why you were quiet the other night when lamelo had a bad game...


I think he’ll be a superstar. Thought so before the draft and certainly think so now. It is what it is. I’m certainly not alone in that thought process. If you don’t, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

Doesn’t mean Edwards can’t be really good too. Just might take him a little longer to impact winning due to his deficiencies.
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Post#815 » by Norseman79 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:33 am

If/when Any starts getting the foul calls he should be getting, and he keeps being aggressive, he could easily get close to 30ppg. We still haven't seen them feature him in post ups yet, if they ever do, that kid is strong, not many two guards who will handle that well. Again, assuming he gets the calls that other players get.

The question is can he do more of it playing off ball, my question is do the Wolves want him to?
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#817 » by Rookie-Mistake » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:54 am

Yeah from that Kat interview..Ricky ain't getting traded.

My bet is Malik gets moved.


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Post#818 » by winforlose » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:08 am

Norseman79 wrote:If/when Any starts getting the foul calls he should be getting, and he keeps being aggressive, he could easily get close to 30ppg. We still haven't seen them feature him in post ups yet, if they ever do, that kid is strong, not many two guards who will handle that well. Again, assuming he gets the calls that other players get.

The question is can he do more of it playing off ball, my question is do the Wolves want him to?


The simple is answer is yes they do. Jeff Teague in his first year with us was not afraid to shoot the long ball. All we asked of Teague was to facilitate to the 3 stars (Butler, Wig, KAT,) and to keep the defense honest when they cheat off of him. In year 2 Teague was not willing to shoot often enough and he would dribble way too much. The collapse of the 2018 season began with a starting PG who dribbled too much and didn’t facilitate well enough. Ant is not our PG but he kills the offense often enough that he is a problem. Now to be fair he is a 19 year old with less development than most his age (we covered this above,) but that doesn’t mean we want him to continue to do it in future years. Edwards needs to attack more quickly and decisively. He needs to be more willing to move the ball and trusting he will get it back. He needs to move more without the ball, and do things like set off ball screens. Ant needs to learn to play as part of an offense before he tries to learn to become the main attraction of the offense. Especially with a teammate like KAT who can score from anywhere.
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Post#819 » by theGreatRC » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:46 am

Ant takes some crazy shots, but damn he can be truly special
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Post#820 » by life_saver » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:23 am

Good start so far under Finch

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